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his is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01C4A345.A9038E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 37 DAYS UNTIL November 2, 2004, and another grand century of the Earth = is nearing its completion. This grandest of sidereal and synodic = multiples is wholly pertinent to evaluating the Earth's present and = imminent circumstances, as the final showdown between peace- and = prosperity-loving people vs. chaos- and genocide-loving wild beasts = rapidly approaches. And yet, there's so very much more going on behind = the scenes. While I recognize that most readers are not avid astronomers, back in = February of 2002, I posted a reply concerning the relationship between = the Mayan long-count and tropical precession in which I tried to speak = in fairly simple terms for anyone casually familiar with the Mayan = calendar or astronomy. Thus I repeat: The Mayans reckoned the haab intercalation interval using 1508 haabs = per 1507 tropical years (C.P. Bowditch, =A91906), hence the average = value of one Mayan tropical year equals 365.242203, only slightly above = modern-day averages. Thus, by the Mayan tropical year and Mayan = longcount great year, the average duration of the precessional age is = 9,360,000 solar days divided by 365.242203 solar days =3D ~25626.8304 = tropical years per great year; divided by 12 =3D ~2135.5692 tropical = years per precessional age, and you can bet that this is an extremely = reliable calculation in reference to the very long-term average of the = precessional great year and zodiacal age in the iris, i.e., 2135.57 = years per age. The average number of tropical years per great year equals about = 25626.8304 by the ancient Mayan reckoning. Using the rounded-off figure = of 25626.83=3D>therefore, about 9,360,000 (nine million three hundred = sixty thousand) solar days per great year of precession yields about = 26000 solar days per 1/360th of a great year equals one arcdegree of = precession every 26000 solar days equals about 71.1856 tropical years, = revealing clear solar day to precessional degree resonance on the very = long-term average, which the Mayans understood. Likewise one solar day of precession averages -0.13846 arc-seconds of = ecliptic longitude, thus each solar hour equals about -0.005769 ecliptic = arcseconds of longitude the Earth precesses against the fixed caelestial = sphere. By reducing this down to one minute-sixty seconds-of solar time, = the Earth precesses on average about -0.000096 arcseconds each minute = thus about -0.0000016 arcseconds per second of time. Likewise 9360000 solar days divided by five equals 1872000 solar days = per Mayan Age of the Sun, with the first of the five ages (which begins = the great year) beginning with the winter solstice Sun conjoined 5 = degrees Sagittarius, which is the caelestial sacred tree near the = galactic center, or the apparent intercept of the ecliptic and galactic = planes which is located very nearly 3 ecliptic arcdegrees east of the = galactic center itself Sgr A* at 2 degrees Sagittarius. The present precessional Age of the Sun is counted "Fifth" and reaches = its end precisely on December 21, 2012, at the time of the winter = solstice 11:11:23 UT, noting the Sun is 05Sag01'12.315" in reference to = Aldebaranu 15Tau00'00.000" also 4Sag58'07.892" in reference to Sgr A* = 02Sag00'00.000". [end excerpt from = http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DHRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilg= amesh.org&output=3Dgplain] -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- The point being, that the grand cycle of the great year of precession is = a sub-cycle in the Sabbath of great years, which is reaching its issue = on December 21, 2012. Again, I ran these calculations back in 2001, = here's the post: The winter solstice Sun (Lat. Natalis Solis Invicti, or Birth of the = Sun-Invincible) conjoins the sacred tree near the galactic center = Sagittarius A*, which is cosmologically, profoundly, "the Sun of our = Sun", and is the precise end of this fifth age of the Sun for this = seventh great year (65,520,000 solar days) simultaneously commencing the = eighth great year and the new sabbatic age of ages, precisely = 21-Dec-2012 (i.e. The Grand Sidereal-Synodic-Tropical Multiple): Fri 21-Dec-2012 11:11:23 UT Julian Day: 2456282.96624 Cardinal Day: 10:00:00:00 Tropical Day: 10:00:00:00 Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau=20 Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA* --------------------------------------------- /SacredTree: 05Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________ \Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180 --------------------------------------------- Gal-Ecl : 05Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________ Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58" HerA* =20 Moon : 19Pis15'46" + 3:27'34" +12.267681 Mercury : 19Sco43'08" + 0:24'24" +1.4795023 Venus : 11Sco36'24" + 1:06'30" +1.2496808 Mars : 1Cap26'53" - 1:09'51" +0.7809645 Jupiter : 13Tau55'15" - 0:44'34" -0.1184174 Saturn : 13Lib40'52" + 2:18'29" +0.0899011 Uranus : 9Pis39'40" - 0:42'46" +0.0068411 Neptune : 5Aqu50'01" - 0:36'39" +0.0220093 Pluto : 13Sag58'10" + 3:20'43" +0.0351116 True Node : 0Sco37'43" + 0:00'00" +0.0230194 Lilith : 16Tau08'19" - 1:30'18" +0.1108440 8TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Fri 21 Dec 2012 AD Gregorian 8 Dec 2012 AD Julian Julian Day 2456283; *1.2.15.0.0.0.0 13.0.0.0.0; 3 Kankin; 4 Ahau 7TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Sat 1 Mar 23,615 BC Gregorian 27 Aug 23,615 BC Julian=20 Julian Day -6903717; *0.19.10.0.0.0.0 -52.0.0.0.0; 3 Kayab; 4 Ahau =20 6TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Sun 10 May 49,242 BC Gregorian 15 May 49,241 BC Julian Julian Day -16263717; *0.16.5.0.0.0.0 -117.0.0.0.0 ;18 Pop; 4 Ahau =20 5TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Mon 18 Jul 74,869 BC Gregorian 1 Feb 74,867 BC Julian Julian Day -25623717; *0.13.0.0.0.0.0 -182.0.0.0.0; 18 Zotz; 4 Ahau 4TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Tue 26 Sep 100,496 BC Gregorian 21 Oct 100,494 BC Julian Julian Day -34983717; *0.9.15.0.0.0.0 -247.0.0.0.0; 18 Yaxkin; 4 Ahau =20 3RD BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Wed 4 Dec 126,123 BC Gregorian 9 Jul 126,120 BC Julian Julian Day -44343717; *0.6.10.0.0.0.0 -312.0.0.0.0; 18 Yax; 4 Ahau =20 2ND BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Thu 12 Feb 151,749 BC Gregorian 28 Mar
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his is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C4A3F9.8683B820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have heard this before, and this is scientific evidence. I believe = that the world will come to an end around the time you explain. The = question is... how will it end? My predictions is that it will be a = virus!! Maybe we should take a poll!!??
37 DAYS UNTIL November 2, 2004, and another grand century of the Earth = is nearing its completion. This grandest of sidereal and synodic = multiples is wholly pertinent to evaluating the Earth's present and = imminent circumstances, as the final showdown between peace- and = prosperity-loving people vs. chaos- and genocide-loving wild beasts = rapidly approaches. And yet, there's so very much more going on behind = the scenes. While I recognize that most readers are not avid astronomers, back in = February of 2002, I posted a reply concerning the relationship between = the Mayan long-count and tropical precession in which I tried to speak = in fairly simple terms for anyone casually familiar with the Mayan = calendar or astronomy. Thus I repeat: The Mayans reckoned the haab intercalation interval using 1508 haabs = per 1507 tropical years (C.P. Bowditch, =A91906), hence the average = value of one Mayan tropical year equals 365.242203, only slightly above = modern-day averages. Thus, by the Mayan tropical year and Mayan = longcount great year, the average duration of the precessional age is = 9,360,000 solar days divided by 365.242203 solar days =3D ~25626.8304 = tropical years per great year; divided by 12 =3D ~2135.5692 tropical = years per precessional age, and you can bet that this is an extremely = reliable calculation in reference to the very long-term average of the = precessional great year and zodiacal age in the iris, i.e., 2135.57 = years per age. The average number of tropical years per great year equals about = 25626.8304 by the ancient Mayan reckoning. Using the rounded-off figure = of 25626.83=3D>therefore, about 9,360,000 (nine million three hundred = sixty thousand) solar days per great year of precession yields about = 26000 solar days per 1/360th of a great year equals one arcdegree of = precession every 26000 solar days equals about 71.1856 tropical years, = revealing clear solar day to precessional degree resonance on the very = long-term average, which the Mayans understood. Likewise one solar day of precession averages -0.13846 arc-seconds = of ecliptic longitude, thus each solar hour equals about -0.005769 = ecliptic arcseconds of longitude the Earth precesses against the fixed = caelestial sphere. By reducing this down to one minute-sixty seconds-of = solar time, the Earth precesses on average about -0.000096 arcseconds = each minute thus about -0.0000016 arcseconds per second of time. Likewise 9360000 solar days divided by five equals 1872000 solar = days per Mayan Age of the Sun, with the first of the five ages (which = begins the great year) beginning with the winter solstice Sun conjoined = 5 degrees Sagittarius, which is the caelestial sacred tree near the = galactic center, or the apparent intercept of the ecliptic and galactic = planes which is located very nearly 3 ecliptic arcdegrees east of the = galactic center itself Sgr A* at 2 degrees Sagittarius. The present precessional Age of the Sun is counted "Fifth" and = reaches its end precisely on December 21, 2012, at the time of the = winter solstice 11:11:23 UT, noting the Sun is 05Sag01'12.315" in = reference to Aldebaranu 15Tau00'00.000" also 4Sag58'07.892" in reference = to Sgr A* 02Sag00'00.000". [end excerpt from = http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3DHRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilg= amesh.org&output=3Dgplain] -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- The point being, that the grand cycle of the great year of precession = is a sub-cycle in the Sabbath of great years, which is reaching its = issue on December 21, 2012. Again, I ran these calculations back in = 2001, here's the post: The winter solstice Sun (Lat. Natalis Solis Invicti, or Birth of the = Sun-Invincible) conjoins the sacred tree near the galactic center = Sagittarius A*, which is cosmologically, profoundly, "the Sun of our = Sun", and is the precise end of this fifth age of the Sun for this = seventh great year (65,520,000 solar days) simultaneously commencing the = eighth great year and the new sabbatic age of ages, precisely = 21-Dec-2012 (i.e. The Grand Sidereal-Synodic-Tropical Multiple): Fri 21-Dec-2012 11:11:23 UT Julian Day: 2456282.96624 Cardinal Day: 10:00:00:00 Tropical Day: 10:00:00:00 Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau=20 Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA* --------------------------------------------- /SacredTree: 05Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________ \Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180 --------------------------------------------- Gal-Ecl : 05Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________ Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58" HerA* =20 Moon : 19Pis15'46" + 3:27'34" +12.267681 Mercury : 19Sco43'08" + 0:24'24" +1.4795023 Venus : 11Sco36'24" + 1:06'30" +1.2496808 Mars : 1Cap26'53" - 1:09'51" +0.7809645 Jupiter : 13Tau55'15" - 0:44'34" -0.1184174 Saturn : 13Lib40'52" + 2:18'29" +0.0899011 Uranus : 9Pis39'40" - 0:42'46" +0.0068411 Neptune : 5Aqu50'01" - 0:36'39" +0.0220093 Pluto : 13Sag58'10" + 3:20'43" +0.0351116 True Node : 0Sco37'43" + 0:00'00" +0.0230194 Lilith : 16Tau08'19" - 1:30'18" +0.1108440 8TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Fri 21 Dec 2012 AD Gregorian 8 Dec 2012 AD Julian Julian Day 2456283; *1.2.15.0.0.0.0 13.0.0.0.0; 3 Kankin; 4 Ahau 7TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Sat 1 Mar 23,615 BC Gregorian 27 Aug 23,615 BC Julian=20 Julian Day -6903717; *0.19.10.0.0.0.0 -52.0.0.0.0; 3 Kayab; 4 Ahau =20 6TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Sun 10 May 49,242 BC Gregorian 15 May 49,241 BC Julian Julian Day -16263717; *0.16.5.0.0.0.0 -117.0.0.0.0 ;18 Pop; 4 Ahau =20 5TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Mon 18 Jul 74,869 BC Gregorian 1 Feb 74,867 BC Julian Julian Day -25623717; *0.13.0.0.0.0.0 -182.0.0.0.0; 18 Zotz; 4 Ahau 4TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE Tue 26 Sep 100,496 BC
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t might not end, it might and likely will go for another 7000 years, but it will still be quite an almost total devastation by a great conflagration (maybe some asteroid?) in 3797. But before then there will also be some kind of epidemic that will decimate two third of humanity. Funny that, now, scientists themselves predict serious new lethal virus or micro-organisms, and they do not even consider the military research in their considerations. So anyway, yes, it is not a bad guess, except it won't be as bad as you think for the whole of humanity, but WILL still be quite a cataclysm for its greater part. Yet, we still have at least two millennium before we risk extinction which is still very unlikely. but it gives the magnitude of the impact since even though the Seer could not really see beyond that moment, he could sense it will be a new completely different era after that for seven millennium. A new civilization with totally new values. J. Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit:
I have heard this before, and this is scientific evidence. I believe that the world will come to an end around the time you explain. The question is... how will it end? My predictions is that it will be a virus!! Maybe we should take a poll!!?? "Daniel Joseph Min" <Real.Min@Colorado.USA
37 DAYS UNTIL November 2, 2004, and another grand century of the Earth is nearing its completion. This grandest of sidereal and synodic multiples is wholly pertinent to evaluating the Earths present and imminent circumstances, as the final showdown between peace- and prosperity-loving people vs. chaos- and genocide-loving wild beasts rapidly approaches. And yet, theres so very much more going on behind the scenes While I recognize that most readers are not avid astronomers, back in February of 2002, I posted a reply concerning the relationship between the Mayan long-count and tropical precession in which I tried to speak in fairly simple terms for anyone casually familiar with the Mayan calendar or astronomy. Thus I repeat: The Mayans reckoned the haab intercalation interval using 1508 haabs per 1507 tropical years (C.P. Bowditch, 1906), hence the average value of one Mayan tropical year equals 365.242203, only slightly above modern-day averages. Thus, by the Mayan tropical year and Mayan longcount great year, the average duration of the precessional age is 9,360,000 solar days divided by 365.242203 solar days = ~25626.8304 tropical years per great year; divided by 12 = ~2135.5692 tropical years per precessional age, and you can bet that this is an extremely reliable calculation in reference to the very long-term average of the precessional great year and zodiacal age in the iris, i.e., 2135.57 years per age. The average number of tropical years per great year equals about 25626.8304 by the ancient Mayan reckoning. Using the rounded-off figure of 25626.83=>therefore, about 9,360,000 (nine million three hundred sixty thousand) solar days per great year of precession yields about 26000 solar days per 1/360th of a great year equals one arcdegree of precession every 26000 solar days equals about 71.1856 tropical years, revealing clear solar day to precessional degree resonance on the very long-term average, which the Mayans understood. Likewise one solar day of precession averages -0.13846 arc-seconds of ecliptic longitude, thus each solar hour equals about -0.005769 ecliptic arcseconds of longitude the Earth precesses against the fixed caelestial sphere. By reducing this down to one minutesixty secondsof solar time, the Earth precesses on average about -0.000096 arcseconds each minute thus about -0.0000016 arcseconds per second of time. Likewise 9360000 solar days divided by five equals 1872000 solar days per Mayan Age of the Sun, with the first of the five ages (which begins the great year) beginning with the winter solstice Sun conjoined 5 degrees Sagittarius, which is the caelestial sacred tree near the galactic center, or the apparent intercept of the ecliptic and galactic planes which is located very nearly 3 ecliptic arcdegrees east of the galactic center itself Sgr A* at 2 degrees Sagittarius. The present precessional Age of the Sun is counted Fifth and reaches its end precisely on December 21, 2012, at the time of the winter solstice 11:11:23 UT, noting the Sun is 05Sag01'12.315" in reference to Aldebaranu 15Tau00'00.000" also 4Sag58'07.892" in reference to Sgr A* 02Sag00'00.000". [end excerpt from http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilgamesh.org&output=gplain <http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilgamesh.org&output=gplain>] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The point being, that the grand cycle of the great year of precession is a sub-cycle in the Sabbath of great years, which is reaching its issue on December 21, 2012. Again, I ran these calculations back in 2001, heres the post: The winter solstice Sun (Lat. Natalis Solis Invicti, or Birth of the Sun-Invincible) conjoins the sacred tree near the galactic center Sagittarius A*, which is cosmologically, profoundly, the Sun of our Sun, and is the precise end of this fifth age of the Sun for this seventh great year (65,520,000 solar days) simultaneously commencing the eighth great year and the new sabbatic age of ages, precisely 21-Dec-2012 (i.e. The Grand Sidereal-Synodic-Tropical Multiple): Fri 21-Dec-2012 11:11:23 UT Julian Day: 2456282.96624 Cardinal Day: 10:00:00:00 Tropical Day: 10:00:00:00 Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA* --------------------------------------------- /SacredTree: 05Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________ \Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180 --------------------------------------------- Gal-Ecl : 05Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________ Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58"
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think it's going to be sooner than that!! Biological weapons are part of the equation and it's only a matter of time. We see terrorists videos on this newsgroup who are not afraid to show their cowardice... it's only a matter of time before we're all reading the last book of the bible!
It might not end, it might and likely will go for another 7000 years, but it will still be quite an almost total devastation by a great conflagration (maybe some asteroid?) in 3797. But before then there will also be some kind of epidemic that will decimate two third of humanity. Funny that, now, scientists themselves predict serious new lethal virus or micro-organisms, and they do not even consider the military research in their considerations. So anyway, yes, it is not a bad guess, except it won't be as bad as you think for the whole of humanity, but WILL still be quite a cataclysm for its greater part. Yet, we still have at least two millennium before we risk extinction which is still very unlikely. but it gives the magnitude of the impact since even though the Seer could not really see beyond that moment, he could sense it will be a new completely different era after that for seven millennium. A new civilization with totally new values. J. Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit:
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hat's somewhat of a double edged sword... "NOT AFRAID TO SHOW THEIR COWARDICE" ... they are afraid... that's why they are cowards!! Let them walk the streets where I live and they would die in an instant!!
It might not end, it might and likely will go for another 7000 years, but it will still be quite an almost total devastation by a great conflagration (maybe some asteroid?) in 3797. But before then there will also be some kind of epidemic that will decimate two third of humanity. Funny that, now, scientists themselves predict serious new lethal virus or micro-organisms, and they do not even consider the military research in their considerations. So anyway, yes, it is not a bad guess, except it won't be as bad as you think for the whole of humanity, but WILL still be quite a cataclysm for its greater part. Yet, we still have at least two millennium before we risk extinction which is still very unlikely. but it gives the magnitude of the impact since even though the Seer could not really see beyond that moment, he could sense it will be a new completely different era after that for seven millennium. A new civilization with totally new values. J. Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit:
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ell, no doubt that world war III is almost upon us, just barely another 20 years before it happens. But it will not be the end. Many many decades after this war between islam and the West, there will be three others not with crazy believers who think other believers are not believers, but with crazy people who won't believe in anything but who will hate christianity and all believers including Muslims, and who sill make the world even worse than what will happen during the upcoming war, taking the excuse that believers are killers taking pretext of past history and more recent one by then from Islamists which they will show that believing in anything even remotely connected to Jesus christ is bad and requiring these believers all be eliminated. Three times there will be three wars by some anti-Christ. And the third times would be fatal to humanity, if it wasn't for some miracle that would do away with the "horror". This is impossible to explain to modern people like us, divine intervention against the devil, as the last AC will be literally replaced by the devil, and would really exterminate the human race if it wasn't for the direct intervention of the Almighty. It is the one thing that seem to be unreal in all of Nostradamus description of history since 1555 (even if it is in the bible because it is something we consider figuratively). But it is the way it will happen, and we will see it as it will be witnessed and understood when the times come. The question is when. If I go back to when the plague will occur, along indeed with all kind of other stuff that seem to point to the 4th world war (remember that we have conventions today that will make the use of WMDs very difficult during the upcoming war or prior to it). But the era of the anti-Christs, it will start around 2065 and will last for many centuries under which there will be three other world wars very different from what we have seen so far... resulting in quite a different outcome... http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.html#e46 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For, according to the celestial signs, the reign of Saturn will be back and, the whole well calculated, the world is getting nearer of a destructive mutation. NOTE: According to Nostradamus, the starting again of the cycle of Saturn (2242 of the Christian era) should mark the onset of a period of great changes, imputable to the coming back of this great cycle of the seven heavenly bodies regulating our destiny. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This (2242) seem to be about when the ecology will give out. Then he points to 2065 as a median date, when it will have become irreversible: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- and that from the period when I write, before one hundred seventy seven years three months and eleven days, by disease, long famine and wars, and even more by inundation's, the world, between the present times and the established term, before and after, in many occasions, will be so diminished and there will be so little people, that we will find no one who will want to work in the fields, which will then become abandoned for a time as long as they have been exploited. NOTE: By this superabundance of precision's on the forecast of events that should spread out over many years (before and after), the author certainly didn't wish to bring us to consider the given period as taking its origin from the year 1555. We note moreover that this period is equivalent to approximately half of one of the cycles described previously (0.50052 X 354.3333 years) which makes us think that the expression " from the present " would concern the beginning of the following cycle, t hat is to say the year 1888 of our era. From this fact, the period of the great tribulations evoked would be situated before and after the year 2065, median point of the actual Sun's cycle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- and this, concerning the visible judgment of heaven, yet that we are at the seventh number of one thousand which complete the whole, bringing us near to the eighth where the firmament of the eighth sphere, which is of very important dimension, where the great eternal God will come to complete the revolution, where the celestial pictures will begin over their cycle and the superior movement which makes the earth stable and firm to us, " will not be eternally tilted " lest his wishes be accomplished, and not in any way otherwise. NOTE: Since the year 2065 of our era correspond to the year 6157 in the great Nostradamian Calendar and since it is the 157th of its seventh millennium, the beginning of the eighth will manifest itself in the year 2908 of our era, that is to say at the end of the reign of Venus of our great temporal cycle. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember that there is in that time a 1000 years of peace once the forces of evil have been put to rest for that long (probably around 2500+). This is before what he described earlier in the test as the end of time which I will put hereafter. As I said in the earlier post, his vision went up to 3797 (but he could perceive the possibility of another 7000 years even if he didn't see it). Anyway, for now, the actual melting of the poles, the absolute indifference for investing in alternative ways of producing energy and preempting the hydrogen future instead of kissing up to greed in order to save 5 cents, much like the out-sourcing problem, but with a much more destructive and definitive power that of nature showed us in florida this last few weeks, along with the insanity of the fanatics, will bring about the cataclysmic catalysts that will shake up the economic pillars of the world and push us into the next war blaming each other for both our sins as surely as the world betrayal of France and Annan does to inflame Islamists. But the point is, that not switching to hydrogen as we could have in 1972, will make it that nature never come back. It will go worsening, one day, it will rain by the arctic poles... But that won't be nearly the end even if it will rain pretty much all the time in the last days before the universal conflagration. A lot will happen until then. But then, incidentally, it will be eerie, as he describe also in one quatrain, 10,67, specifically astro-dated May 3755, it can't be before that date, when he speaks of a great earthquake, that the hail will be as big as eggs for instance. But enough about the preliminaries, here is about the last conflagration, not long after this date above: http://www.michelnostradamus.org/cesar_e.
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Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit:
Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit: That's somewhat of a double edged sword... "NOT AFRAID TO SHOW THEIR COWARDICE" ... they are afraid... that's why they are cowards!! Let them walk the streets where I live and they would die in an instant!!
Well, even if you were in Iraq, with the means to do just that to the Muslim killers of the world, where they flock because of the traitorous border porousness of yet another member of the SC, an occupier who welcomed saddam's WMDs, and who, unlike France, was *predictably* going to betray his signature, even there in the streets of Baghdad, they wouldn't let you know who they are until they would strike first. They strike at civilians, they don't play by the Geneva convention, they conceal their status, that is the nature of cowardliness. Just pray they don't start to flock unto your streets, and that is what the prez insures for now. Except that there are Muslims in Mexico and if they keep playing politics with immigration and border legality, it may just be a matter of time and all this will have been for nothing. J.
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Montgomery BOO...URNS a crit: Well, even if you were in Iraq, with the means to do just that to the Muslim killers of the world, where they flock because of the traitorous border porousness of yet another member of the SC, an occupier who welcomed saddam's WMDs, and who, unlike France, was *predictably* going to betray his signature, even there in the streets of Baghdad, they wouldn't let you know who they are until they would strike first. They strike at civilians, they don't play by the Geneva convention, they conceal their status, that is the nature of cowardliness. Just pray they don't start to flock unto your streets, and that is what the prez insures for now.
rofl Bush insures us nothing. He won't be able to use the innocent civilians of Iraq as decoys for terrorists forever. And he has left our ports hanging opoen like a busted barn door. It could be any day now.
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ouroboros rex a crit:
rofl Bush insures us nothing.
Bull#@($.
He won't be able to use the innocent civilians of Iraq as decoys for terrorists forever.
It is your butt buddies the terrorists who do that, dumbo.
And he has left our ports hanging opoen like a busted barn door.
Bull#@($ again. The ports are 1000 times better protected than under Clinton.
It could be any day now.
This is because they both play politics with the spanish speaking voters. But it shows only that the challenger is to chicken to even risk proposing anything new. J.
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