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Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:35:47 -0400, "Thomas Moats" <me@me.net> wrote: > ><nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message >news:i226o0l5l695a1oq39iu9hl0c2ior7b45d@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:54:06 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> >>


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Nomen Nescio wrote: > Think your car is advanced? There are four self-locking nuts on a > Wal-Mart shopping cart. They retain the casters. How many > self-locking nuts are on your $30,000 car. My car has none that I'm > aware of. Car manufactur


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:17:03 -0400, nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca wrote: And speaking of vehicle fires - There is one less Aerostar in Waterloo Ontario tonight - and almost one less house as well. An appliance serviceman had his Aerostar parke


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: > Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, rather than mechanical, > engineering you might. One reason is liquids can not burn. By > being inside the tank, there is no possibility of a combustible > mixture or f


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
<nospam.clare.nce@sny.der.on.ca> wrote in message news:i226o0l5l695a1oq39iu9hl0c2ior7b45d@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:54:06 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > >Wait a minute. Maybe there are shortcuts in some cases - and I


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:54:06 -0400, "Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote: >Wait a minute. Maybe there are shortcuts in some cases - and I have only >done >it once - but every fuel pump replacement I have heard about >involves dropping the tank.


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
n Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:03 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain valve installed >to the fuel tank? Obviously, a drain valve installed at the tank sump >would safely allow t


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Full_Name" <Email@address.com> wrote in message news:ivv5o0970np3of0pbdc1juu73dggsbtue3@4ax.com... > On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:03 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio > <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: > > >Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Al Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:10o60ierl4j8311@corp.supernews.com... > > "shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:_TAgd.57890$nl.34438@pd7tw3no... > > Wound Up wrote: > > > > > Also, thi


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
I may have missed it earlier, but it is your opinion that money had a lot / a little / nothing to do with the design? Cost of repair was not a consideration? "Bill Putney" <bptn@kinex.net> wrote in message news:4182fa6c$1_5@127.0.0.1... > Ken


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain valve installed to the fuel tank? Obviously, a drain valve installed at the tank sump would safely allow the complete drainage of a fuel tank before in-tank-fuel pump or fuel gauge sending unit


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Wound Up wrote: .. > > Nomen Nescio? Scandanavian Networks? > > "NN - eller Nomen Nescio - er Nordiskt Netværk for navnegenkendelse. > > NN or Nomen Nescio is Scandinavian Networks by navnegenkendelse." > > <http://www.tranexp.com:2000/Inter


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"shiden_kai" <violet_lightening_modified@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:_TAgd.57890$nl.34438@pd7tw3no... > Wound Up wrote: > > > Also, this type of integration is used secondarily, but not > > insignificantly, to increase book-billed labour cha


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:03 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote: >Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain valve installed >to the fuel tank? ><snip> I've seen many early Japanese cars with such a device (Nissan


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Why do you think I put the quotation marks around the phrase fire-wall? It's not a fire wall. But that is what most will call it, sort of like using the word Kleenex instead of facial tissue. "Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message news:10o5uvn79pq3pc


Re: privacy and public figures
"Christopher Green" <cj.green@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:c31fa7b1.0410271704.63d8cb85@posting.google.com... > "curious" <_curio8888@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2u8ghcF26hqk8U1@uni-berlin.de>... > > Just curious > > > > How does


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Bob wrote: > "Thomas Moats" <me@me.net> wrote in message > news:aMydnTaE0pB6cx_cRVn-sw@comcast.com... > >>The same sheet-metal that makes the "fire-wall" also separates you from >>the fuel >>tank. > > Due to the lawyers I don't believe we ha


Re: Work trying to get me to quit
On 29 Oct 2004 10:17:47 -0700, smoothstyle01@hotmail.com (smoothstyle01) wrote: >My work is currently trying to get me to quit. They write me up for >ridicules things while trying to find every little mistake I make. >They are now trying to make m


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:37:38 GMT, Ken Weitzel <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote: > > >MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: >> Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, rather than mechanical, >> engineering you might. One reason is liquids can not burn. By


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Ken Weitzel wrote: > > Bill Putney wrote: > >> Ken Weitzel wrote: >>> I do have one question though that I'd like to ask if >>> I may? When I have a quarter tank of fuel left, what >>> exactly occupies the remaining space? >> If I see where


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Nomen Nescio wrote: > Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain valve installed > to the fuel tank? Obviously, a drain valve installed at the tank sump > would safely allow the complete drainage of a fuel tank before in-tank-fuel > pu


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:bbbc8f4fec22822d2c91f0c1677ab7f8@dizum.com... There are four self-locking nuts on a Wal-Mart > shopping cart. > There's one NUT right here in this newsgroup, Why, it's YOU Nomen!!!!


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:VVBgd.59231$%k.70@pd7tw2no... > > > Bill Putney wrote: > > > Ken Weitzel wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: > >> > >>> Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, r


Re: Any way to estimate "pain and suffering"?
jamanda80107@yahoo.com (jamanda80107) wrote in message news:<53609e13.0410291444.4a9fa9cb@posting.google.com>... > > She does not want millions of dollars but it has been a terrible > summer for her considering that she had hoped to be past two major


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Thomas Moats" <me@me.net> wrote in message news:aMydnTaE0pB6cx_cRVn-sw@comcast.com... > The same sheet-metal that makes the "fire-wall" also separates you from > the fuel > tank. > Due to the lawyers I don't believe we have firewalls any more


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:RPBgd.58533$nl.30145@pd7tw3no... > > > Thomas Moats wrote: > > > "Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:6vAgd.58160$%k.40632@pd7tw2no... > > > >> > >>MelvinGibson@mailc


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
actually a FULL gas tank is safer because of less fumes in the tank "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:bbbc8f4fec22822d2c91f0c1677ab7f8@dizum.com... > Have you all observed that not one automobile has a drain valve installed > to


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
AMEN to that! "maxpower" <gjbeasley@comcast.net> wrote in message news:VK2dnbxBavVKHB_cRVn-tA@comcast.com... > When A liar, i mean lawyer sees a chance to make money, this is what you > get > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message > ne


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Are you sure? The pick up is under fuel, but is the pump completely under fuel ? The "contacts" are in the top of the pump, so exposed to tank atmosphere. Being no O2 or not enough to support combustion.........moot point. <MelvinGibson@mailcity.com> w


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Gasoline vapor, but not a combustible mixture. Even when the gauge shows empty, the contacts are still in the fuel. mike hunt Ken Weitzel wrote: > > MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: > > Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, ra


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:6vAgd.58160$%k.40632@pd7tw2no... > > > MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: > > Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, rather than mechanical, > > engineering you might. One reason is liquids


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Ken Weitzel wrote: > > > MelvinGibson@mailcity.com wrote: > >> Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, rather than mechanical, >> engineering you might. One reason is liquids can not burn. By >> being inside the tank, there is no possibili


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Bill Putney wrote: > Without knowing the alloy and temper of the bolt, you can't know that. > Please provide a few examples of these too-high specified torques along > with what you know to be the grade of metal and recommended chart value > for


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Perhaps if your degree was in electrical, rather than mechanical, engineering you might. One reason is liquids can not burn. By being inside the tank, there is no possibility of a combustible mixture or fire. If for example the electric fuel pump we


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
sure they do, alot of the newer chrysler products have them,,, im sure EPA doesnt want those on the vehicles, it is hard enough just getting fuel pressure sharader valves on most cars now, EPA screams enviroment!!! "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wro


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Nomen Nescio wrote: > ...Car manufacturers > will do anything to avoid self lockers because of cost. Instead, auto > engineers did their own work-around for plain fasteners. They specify > torques at least 150% the maximum recommended by fastener t


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Senator John Edwards, is that you? Two examples, of how NOT to properly handle volatile fuels, deleted for lack of relevance. LOL mike hunt Nomen Nescio wrote: > > A Google search found two serious fires, happening on the same da


Re: Work trying to get me to quit
"Huguito" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<2ufdobF2asdgoU1@uni-berlin.de>... > Do something really bad, get fired, look for a way better job , and untill > you find a better job live on the unmeployment benefits. > > Ps, Heads up to you for


Re: Work trying to get me to quit
smoothstyle01@hotmail.com (smoothstyle01) wrote in message news:<b4190bdb.0410290917.4933aa1a@posting.google.com>... > My work is currently trying to get me to quit. To play Devil's Advocate here... > They write me up for > ridicules things while


Any way to estimate "pain and suffering"?
I have a friend who had a total knee replacement [TKR} mid-June of this year. She is in her mid-80s; she recovered just fine from the surgery but the ditzes at the hospital and the short term rehab place she went to ignored her when she said her heels


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
When A liar, i mean lawyer sees a chance to make money, this is what you get "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:27b1343b8f0bf6702bcfeddae79f596b@dizum.com... A Google search found two serious fires, happening on the same day, one


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
POPPY COCK!!!!! what a crock,,,ok lets put the fuel pumps outside the tank, Where should we put the fuel Sending unit???? Ever thought maybe the person working on the car didnt know what they were doing???? I wonder if maybe they were using a drop l


Re: Work trying to get me to quit
On 29 Oct 2004 10:17:47 -0700, smoothstyle01@hotmail.com (smoothstyle01) wrote: >My work is currently trying to get me to quit. They write me up for >ridicules things while trying to find every little mistake I make. >They are now trying to make m


Re: Work trying to get me to quit
Do something really bad, get fired, look for a way better job , and untill you find a better job live on the unmeployment benefits. Ps, Heads up to you for having so much patience with those @ , if it where me in your shoes i would #@&@^ slap all of


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
Right ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! brother. Does not matter if the stupidity occures in a garage or on the internet. "Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message news:clsddc$lid$3@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu... > You can't legislate against


Work trying to get me to quit
My work is currently trying to get me to quit. They write me up for ridicules things while trying to find every little mistake I make. They are now trying to make me work 50 hours a week even knowing that I go to college. I am on salary so I can't g


Re: A gay lawyer comes in your bed !
"Karl-Hugo Weesberg" <netspider4@lycos.com> wrote in message news:7666ed5f.0410262250.465b43e7@posting.google.com... > You are in your bed, alone, nude. > > Suddenly and without warning, a gay lawyer comes in your bed! > > What do you do? Find


Re: In-the-tank fuel pumps cause death and destruction
An educated guess - adding to your clearly educated response - no sarcasm, so don't get pissed... Also, this type of integration is used secondarily, but not insignificantly, to increase book-billed labor charges and replacement costs on all rela


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