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House Purchase with Owner Financing / Owner now wants to renege on contract!



"Debbie"
11/19/2004 1:46:12 PM


For about a year or more, my family had been renting a house from a private
landlord who said he had no problem with us renting long term (we were
looking to rent the property for several years). During that time, due to
enormous health bills incurred when my husband had heart surgery, we were
forced to file for bankruptcy. Then, in the Fall of 2002 the landlord told
us, due to changes in his own circumstances, he would not be able to renew
our contract when the time came (within a month or so). We were heart
broken as we had fallen in love with the house and were quite settled. Due
to the bankruptcy we didn't feel we would be able to get a mortgage and had
no idea what we would do. I suggested to my husband that we had nothing to
lose by asking the owner if he would allow us to buy the house from him via
"owner-financing" (he would hold the mortgage in his name). We were
delighted when he agreed to this and so we drew up a contract between us and
gave him all of our savings, $10,000, as a cash deposit on the purchase
price.
We have been paying him monthly amounts for the last two years and have
invested many thousands of dollars (every penny we had, in fact) into the
house on landscaping and repair work etc. We recently decided that it might
be better if we tried to get a mortgage now so that we could pay him off in
full and actually have the house in our names. However, a few days ago he
asked to meet with my husband and dropped a bombshell on us. It seems he
has recently incurred great financial debts (health bills from his
daughter's illness and subsequent death) and expects the hospital to take
him to court over these debts. He intends to file for bankruptcy and his
intention seems to be to move his wife back into this house so that they can
claim it as their "homestead" and not lose it in any bankruptcy filing.
We are absolutely devastated and don't know what to do or what our rights
are, or even if we have any. We have no savings left and feel like we have
been kicked in the teeth and have no options. I would be most grateful if
there is anyone here in this newsgroup who could give me some advice.
Regards - Debbie
 
 
"Jade"
11/20/2004 12:18:11 AM


First, why isn't the house in your names? It should still be able to be in
your names even if the owner is financing. Basically, it's like the owner
is the holder of the mortgage.
You should sue for specific performance (get an attorney who also knows
bankruptcy so that this lawsuit can be pursued around the stay that will
take effect once bk is


"Debbie" <britbitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:N5ednVsRtfHrogPcRVn-vQ@adelphia.com...

For about a year or more, my family had been renting a house from a
private
landlord who said he had no problem with us renting long term (we were
looking to rent the property for several years). During that time, due to
enormous health bills incurred when my husband had heart surgery, we were
forced to file for bankruptcy. Then, in the Fall of 2002 the landlord
told
us, due to changes in his own circumstances, he would not be able to renew
our contract when the time came (within a month or so). We were heart
broken as we had fallen in love with the house and were quite settled.
Due
to the bankruptcy we didn't feel we would be able to get a mortgage and
had
no idea what we would do. I suggested to my husband that we had nothing
to
lose by asking the owner if he would allow us to buy the house from him
via
"owner-financing" (he would hold the mortgage in his name). We were
delighted when he agreed to this and so we drew up a contract between us
and
gave him all of our savings, $10,000, as a cash deposit on the purchase
price.
We have been paying him monthly amounts for the last two years and have
invested many thousands of dollars (every penny we had, in fact) into the
house on landscaping and repair work etc. We recently decided that it
might
be better if we tried to get a mortgage now so that we could pay him off
in
full and actually have the house in our names. However, a few days ago he
asked to meet with my husband and dropped a bombshell on us. It seems he
has recently incurred great financial debts (health bills from his
daughter's illness and subsequent death) and expects the hospital to take
him to court over these debts. He intends to file for bankruptcy and his
intention seems to be to move his wife back into this house so that they
can
claim it as their "homestead" and not lose it in any bankruptcy filing.
We are absolutely devastated and don't know what to do or what our rights
are, or even if we have any. We have no savings left and feel like we
have
been kicked in the teeth and have no options. I would be most grateful if
there is anyone here in this newsgroup who could give me some advice.
Regards - Debbie
 
 
"I approved this message"
11/20/2004 3:58:37 AM


"Wife" and "homestead" sounds like a community property state. Where do you
live? In some states a spouse can't sell certain community property,
especially a home, w/o the other spouse's consent.
Was your $10,000 payment in cash?


"Debbie" <britbitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:N5ednVsRtfHrogPcRVn-vQ@adelphia.com...

For about a year or more, my family had been renting a house from a
private landlord who said he had no problem with us renting long term (we
were looking to rent the property for several years). During that time,
due to enormous health bills incurred when my husband had heart surgery,
we were forced to file for bankruptcy. Then, in the Fall of 2002 the
landlord told us, due to changes in his own circumstances, he would not be
able to renew our contract when the time came (within a month or so). We
were heart broken as we had fallen in love with the house and were quite
settled. Due to the bankruptcy we didn't feel we would be able to get a
mortgage and had no idea what we would do. I suggested to my husband that
we had nothing to lose by asking the owner if he would allow us to buy the
house from him via "owner-financing" (he would hold the mortgage in his
name). We were delighted when he agreed to this and so we drew up a
contract between us and gave him all of our savings, $10,000, as a cash
deposit on the purchase price.
We have been paying him monthly amounts for the last two years and have
invested many thousands of dollars (every penny we had, in fact) into the
house on landscaping and repair work etc. We recently decided that it
might be better if we tried to get a mortgage now so that we could pay him
off in full and actually have the house in our names. However, a few days
ago he asked to meet with my husband and dropped a bombshell on us. It
seems he has recently incurred great financial debts (health bills from
his daughter's illness and subsequent death) and expects the hospital to
take him to court over these debts. He intends to file for bankruptcy and
his intention seems to be to move his wife back into this house so that
they can claim it as their "homestead" and not lose it in any bankruptcy
filing.
We are absolutely devastated and don't know what to do or what our rights
are, or even if we have any. We have no savings left and feel like we
have been kicked in the teeth and have no options. I would be most
grateful if there is anyone here in this newsgroup who could give me some
advice.
Regards - Debbie
 
 
"Debbie"
11/20/2004 10:59:38 AM


We live in Virginia, and yes the $10,000 payment was in cash, but we have a
receipt from him for that money.
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"I approved this message" <nospam@email.gov> wrote in message
news:zqOdnUwNtejSiALcRVn-sA@giganews.com...

"Wife" and "homestead" sounds like a community property state. Where do
you live? In some states a spouse can't sell certain community property,
especially a home, w/o the other spouse's consent.
Was your $10,000 payment in cash?


"Debbie" <britbitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:N5ednVsRtfHrogPcRVn-vQ@adelphia.com...

 
 
"David Martel"
11/21/2004 12:27:44 AM


Debbie,
Houses are expensive so you need to get some legal advice. Look in your
local phone book or consult with the attorney who handled your house's sales
contract. Bring the sales receipt and anything which shows monthly payments
as well as the contract to the lawyer's office.
Good luck,
Dave M..
 
 
"I approved this message"
11/25/2004 8:18:50 AM


Long story short: Selling real estate is heavily regulated by the state.
To sell real estate, you need a deed, which has to be in a very specific
form with specific legal mumbo jumbo. Also, the deed has to be recorded,
otherwise the seller could sell the property to another buyer.
Here is one thing you can do on the cheap is put a lien on the house. It
will prevent him from selling it to anyone else. It may force him to
negotiate. However, you better be sure that your receipt covers your ass.
There is such as thing as "slander of title." Slapping an invalid lien on a
property can get you sued.


"Debbie" <britbitz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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We live in Virginia, and yes the $10,000 payment was in cash, but we have
a receipt from him for that money.
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