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Alex Constantine ? Credible?
http://www.alexconstantine.50megs.com/the_cia_and.html It all sounds legit. I checked some of it out and it was verifiable. ---------------------------------------- In 1952, at MCA, Actors' Guild president Ronald Reagan - a screen idol recruited by


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 23:31:44 -0000, "Harry The Horse" <HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote: >Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> Even in the current system, a corporation can't simply bring charges >> of libel without some kind of proof. >> >You are so


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
Jeff Strickland wrote: > > Even in the current system, a corporation can't simply bring charges > of libel without some kind of proof. > You are so wrong, it's almost funny.


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:21:17 +0000, Richard Miller <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote: >So yes, it does unequivocally fatally undermine the judgement. So what happens with that judgement now Richard? Is it automatically quashed? smicker


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
In article <dq57115a1n0batng7v50sq33cbdgvt1uc3@4ax.com>, peterturtill@hotmail.com says... > A similar thing happened > with his supporter Pat Jacobs AKA Pat Winstanley. As she was due to go > to court she claimed a mental breakdown > You are lyi


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:he2dnYUlvY6WWo7fRVn-2w@ez2.net... > > "Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:IDH6$rZmq7ECFwjb@seasalter0.demon.co.uk... >> In message <s7GdnUBHLNKRG


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:2eSdnb1PROd4PI7fRVn-vw@ez2.net... > > The problem in the McD case is that McD did nothing wrong. It pays low > wages, so what? It kills cows, so what? It sells its product to chioldren


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <tuGdnZ2ZMP0eIY7fRVn-qg@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes > >"jrsdctr" <jrsdctr@yahoo.com> wrote in message >news:1108585834.816167.47670@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> Much of what they said was found to be tru


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <LtednZdUZ85wKI7fRVn-uw@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes > >"Steve Walker" <spam-trap@beeb.net> wrote in message >news:37ho8aF5dgub3U1@individual.net... >> Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> > Libel laws SHOULD favor p


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <2_qdnaTii5fEMY7fRVn-oA@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes > >"Rico X. Partay" <billg@microsoft.com> wrote in message >news:4213a0ea$0$38840$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com... >> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <sva7119a4lhd24u3fsuqalp436comcahd0@4ax.com>, Cynic <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> writes >On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:18:43 -0000, "The Todal" <deadmailbox@beeb.net> >wrote: > >>A good point but it isn't quite as simple as that. There are freedom o


Re: Daily Mail: Divorcee Targets Her Father-in-law's Fortune
On 16/2/05 9:28 pm, in article 4213bb12$0$32618$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk, "Fred" <Fred@n0spam.c0m> wrote: > > I was told some time ago it also depended on the life expectancy of the > parent, particularly if death was imminent. That is "forced he


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On 16/2/05 9:30 pm, in article BE396C04.54466%biwah@hotmail.com, "Biwah" <biwah@hotmail.com> wrote: > The Telegraph agrees with you (but I don't). McDo wasn't, in fact harmed. > Supersize Me has shown that much of what they said was true; the rest wa


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
n 16/2/05 7:37 pm, in article 2eSdnb1PROd4PI7fRVn-vw@ez2.net, "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote: > In the Lloyds case that you bring to the table, the charge is that Lloyd > engaged in illegal practice. If true, then the poorest of defe


Re: Daily Mail: Divorcee Targets Her Father-in-law's Fortune
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:Ku6dnTT7Z9o4MI7fRVn-pQ@ez2.net... > > All of this is beyond the pale. The spouse should not be able to go after > the assets of the parents, even if those assets might one day flow to t


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <s7GdnUBHLNKRGo7fRVn-hg@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes >As much as there might be free speech issues, if one tells a lie then >free speech can not be invoked. > >McD didn't sue because it was criticized, it sued


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <Id6dnWiNWJXx5o7fRVn-qw@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes > > >This paragraph is the crux of the case, and is a huge problem. It says that >anybody can now make baseless assertions AND demand government to support


Re: Can AT&T Wireless Be Sued?
"John" <john_tilly@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:pan.2005.02.16.16.36.45.172306@hotmail.com... > <snip> > > > Even if they didn't give you the 30 days, if you attempt to opt out > > within this time because they do not serve your area, you can


Re: DIVORCE QUESTION/PROPERTY SPLITTING
"Bike Nut" <bikenut1@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:wGOQd.2658$9J5.209@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > "me qsbasher, owner of "me qsuser"" <nospam@noaddress.com> wrote in message > news:37hjt9F5ag71rU1@individual.net... > > > > "Bik


Re: DIVORCE QUESTION/PROPERTY SPLITTING
"me qsbasher, owner of "me qsuser"" <nospam@noaddress.com> wrote in message news:37hjt9F5ag71rU1@individual.net... > > "Bike Nut" <bikenut1@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:oyKQd.4316$VI5.11@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > If a husban


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:03:22 +0000, Biwah <biwah@hotmail.com> wrote: >> You have shown a fundamental misunderstanding of what is meant by >> "freedom of speech". It only protects a person from being prevented >> *by the state* from saying what they


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On 16/2/05 8:31 pm, in article sva7119a4lhd24u3fsuqalp436comcahd0@4ax.com, "Cynic" <cynic_999@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > You have shown a fundamental misunderstanding of what is meant by > "freedom of speech". It only protects a person from being prevent


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 12:21:37 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote: >>> Libel laws SHOULD favor plaintiffs >>> because the plaintiff has been wronged. >> No, all the plaintiff has done is *claim* that he has been >> wronged


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On 16 Feb 2005 12:30:34 -0800, "jrsdctr" <jrsdctr@yahoo.com> wrote: >Much of what they said was found to be true. If you make a series of defamatory statements, ISTM that you need to be prepared to prove that *all* of them are true, not just "much"


US CA: Editorial: No Viable Defense
Posters note: Also posted separately in alt.california, ca.politics, talk.politics.drugs, talk.politics.misc US CA: Editorial: No Viable Defense URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n264/a04.html Newshawk: Kirk Votes: 0 Pubdate: Sun, 13 Feb


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:18:43 -0000, "The Todal" <deadmailbox@beeb.net> wrote: >A good point but it isn't quite as simple as that. There are freedom of >speech issues - I doubt if MacDonalds would have been able to sue in the USA >if someone had pub


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
Jeff Strickland wrote: > Libel laws SHOULD favor plaintiffs because the plaintiff has been > wronged. Erm.... I think you mean *claims to have been* wronged? Have you forgotten how Robert Maxwell used harrassment writs to deter anyone from see


Re: Roomate situation
Of course, laws can vary from state to state, but it seems to me that you have two separate situations that only tangentially relate. If you are the lessee (i.e., if your boyfriend is not on the lease), then he has no right to remain if you don't w


Re: Roomate situation
The lease would govern, in the absence of other information, it seems. "Jim" <nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:37ej38F5ar7toU1@individual.net... > I dont know where you are, but here in Arizona, if he is not in the lease > you could throw h


Re: Easement/Sub-division
"Jorda" <g673nw@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:372ea85db62b40ba375dc523d239321d@localhost.talkaboutprofessions.com... > I've had bad feelings about this easement deal all along! The original > plan > was for six houses but now I'm being told t


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"pete" <peterturtill@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:gi08119852qngs5rp7kc3r96dvpgh28q11@4ax.com... > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:28:42 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" > <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>"pete" <peterturtill@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
In message <fYecnftmeb-ygo7fSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk>, Alex <akiralx@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >Am I the only one who think this pair are a couple of twerps? They did >libel McDonalds by and large, so they could have avoided all this, and >not wasted var


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:25:54 -0000, "Mike Manning" <me9@privacy.net> wrote: >Another post in this thread, if correct, would seem to give some relevance >to your wife's condition at the time you discontinued your claim. >Also, if correct, please acce


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
In article <tp371154oqrcallhqocv67sonkm2mgds95@4ax.com>, pete <peterturtill@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:46:41 +0000, Peter Pratt > <peter_pratt@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > >In article <frSdnXdYU_Idwo7fRVnyiA@pipex.net>, Mike Manning


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Harry The Horse" <HarryAtTheStable@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1108596704.18563.0@demeter.uk.clara.net... > Jeff Strickland wrote: >> >> Even in the current system, a corporation can't simply bring charges >> of libel without some kind of


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"pete" <peterturtill@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3bl7119j23a7bfrec94v5og642ldb350d7@4ax.com... > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 22:21:17 +0000, Richard Miller > <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>So yes, it does unequivocally fatally undermin


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:U7J9REndd8ECFwz6@seasalter0.demon.co.uk... > In message <LtednZdUZ85wKI7fRVn-uw@ez2.net>, Jeff Strickland > <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> writes >> >>"Steve Walker" <spam-trap@beeb


Re: Daily Mail: Divorcee Targets Her Father-in-law's Fortune
"Biwah" <biwah@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BE37A1FE.538D3%biwah@hotmail.com... > Daily Mail (London) > February 15, 2005 > > Divorcee Targets Her Father-in-law's Fortune > > By Beth Hale > <snip> I had this trouble. Just got my par


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
"pete" <peterturtill@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8c1711ltotd7beqsd27o8j9ugq8oqqqfje@4ax.com... > On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:59:03 -0000, "Mike Manning" <me9@privacy.net> > wrote: > > >I cant pretend to know you at all, so not in the best positio


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:46:41 +0000, Peter Pratt <peter_pratt@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >In article <frSdnXdYU_Idwo7fRVnyiA@pipex.net>, Mike Manning ><me9@privacy.net> wrote: > >> >> I cant pretend to know you at all, so not in the best position to ju


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"The Todal" <deadmailbox@beeb.net> wrote in message news:37i10dF52l9f6U1@individual.net... > > "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message > news:he2dnYUlvY6WWo7fRVn-2w@ez2.net... >> >> "Richard Miller" <richard@seasalter0.demon.c


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:s7GdnUBHLNKRGo7fRVn-hg@ez2.net... > As much as there might be free speech issues, if one tells a lie then free > speech can not be invoked. > > McD didn't sue because it was criticiz


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:59:03 -0000, "Mike Manning" <me9@privacy.net> wrote: >I cant pretend to know you at all, so not in the best position to judge. >However, I can state without fear or favour that your original post did not >mention your wife at


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
In article <frSdnXdYU_Idwo7fRVnyiA@pipex.net>, Mike Manning <me9@privacy.net> wrote: > > I cant pretend to know you at all, so not in the best position to judge. > However, I can state without fear or favour that your original post did not > menti


Re: Daily Mail: Divorcee Targets Her Father-in-law's Fortune
Greedy Cow


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 16:22:28 +0000, Marshall Rice <Marshall@marshallricebin.co.uk> wrote: >In article <20l611llviluhd551ip2d3s48shkar0tq8@4ax.com>, pete ><peterturtill@hotmail.com> writes > >>Don't be mislead by this anon post folks. It is totally


New Support Group for SLAPP Victims
Greetings! As a victim of a SLAPP suit that has been in litigation for more than three years, I found that while many excellent informational resources about SLAPPs exist on the Internet, I could not find a venue for victims to share their experienc


Re: W Post: McDonald's Protesters Win in Court
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message news:Id6dnWiNWJXx5o7fRVn-qw@ez2.net... > > > > On Tuesday, the rest of it went down the drain. A seven-judge panel in > > Strasbourg, France, threw out the original judgment, ruling unanimou


Re: Guardian: Libel law review over McDonald's ruling
In article <6tg611p3i1b40tj0mvmqbrb4aq98offk5m@4ax.com>, peterturtill@hotmail.com says... > I have been > libeled persistently by a deaf and blind man > So you claim... but you have never proved it.


Re: Can AT&T Wireless Be Sued?
<snip> > Even if they didn't give you the 30 days, if you attempt to opt out > within this time because they do not serve your area, you can usually > avoid the Early Termination Fee. >> As I mentioned, the renewed contract was under the promise