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To begin with I haven't seen this film yet, but apparently a
whole lot of other people haven't seen this film yet, either.
I've been reading the favorable reviews on the blogs, though
there's no need to read Atheists' reviews of the film, since
everybody already knows what Atheists think, that 'EXPELLED'
is "nothing but garbage for brain-dead morons". Some reviews
are mixed, even among ID-proponents (most of whom are Chrino-
Atheists, closet-Atheists, Christians-in-name-onlyests, etc.)
No matter what they think, it appears that 'EXPELLED' bombed.
Earning barely 3 million in its premiere box office receipts
(for the weekend of April 18-20; ref. http://boxoffice.com/),
it pales by comparison to Mel Gibson's 2004 hit 'The Passion
of the Christ', which made $150 million in its first week of
release, and grossed $370 million nationwide, with over $600
million worldwide, or to Disney's 'The Chronicles of Narnia'
series which thus far has grossed almost three-quarters of a
billion dollars, with its second film at theatres next month,
and the third due out in 2010, or 'The Polar Express', which
grossed over 300 million worldwide--all films marketed by LA-
based "Motive Entertainment". These guys are very big league.
So what gives with 'EXPELLED'? Not for want of promotion, or
want of controversy, or want of discussion on the blogs, but
perhaps for want of something else: paying audiences who are
interested in the well-promoted controversial subject matter.
Granted, the collapsing economy, falling dollar, and rapidly
skyrocketing oil prices could be partially to blame, but not
quite enough to account for such an abysmal Expelled opening.
And some could add the Pope's in town, plus the Pennsylvania
primary, and BU$H's imminent expansion of the "war on terror"
into Iran, and probably the entire Middle East, and Far East.
Pandemic third-world famine, skyrocketing costs for luxuries
like food, with myriads of other inconveniences plaguing the
sinful world. Even if the imminent end of the Empire were to
account for half of the audiences staying away from Expelled,
the other half steered clear because they're apathetic. They
simply do not care, or if they do, they're holding out for a
DVD release, or they'll just wait for HBO etc. to pick it up.
The other possibility is that the parallels between Jews and
ID-proponents in Nazi Germany hit a little too close to home.
After all, how many parents tell their children that this is
Hell? Not too many, because most parents are oblivious, like
the 1999 blockbuster science-fiction action film 'The Matrix'
so apocalyptically elucidated. Few want to take the red pill
and wake up in Hell. They'd rather take the blue pill and go
on believing whatever they want to believe. So let's pretend.
Imagine donning your yarmulke, torah in hand, Berlin c. 1933.
You've got a great idea. You want to teach brownshirts, from
the Genesis creation account, alongside a copy of Mein Kamph,
all the virtues of Hebrew scholarship with Hitler's portrait
and the glorious Nazi flag adorning the classroom wall--okay?
It's only fair after all. The Chamber of Culture, Department
of Film, Goebbels himself suggests producing a film about it.
We'll call it 'EXPELLED: No Jews Allowed'. It's a box office
blockbuster, and all proceeds help to fund the war on terror.
That's the nice-guy approach. Atheists are "nice little men"
who can be reasoned with, bargained with and negotiated with.
Compromise worked wonders for Jews in Nazi Germany, so it'll
have the same outcome for Theists in Atheist America c. 2008.
Remember, the Nazis never mocked the Jews then, and Atheists
never mock the Theists now. They won't mock our movie either.
But here in the real world, which is Hell for the living and
Hell for the dead, any mention of God, or Gods, "Intelligent
Designer", in the Atheists' classrooms is strictly forbidden.
Until the SCOTUS overturns the draconian 1947 decision which
**ESTABLISHED** Atheism as America's official State religion
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everson_v._Board_of_Education],
they'll never tolerate non-Atheist views in their classrooms
or courtrooms. The only way it will happen is through global
Armageddon completely shutting down their Matrix of illusion,
requiring intercontinental nuclear and biological warfare to
the four corners of the earth. That's how this change occurs.
If the producers of 'EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed' want
to negotiate with those "nice little men" in Washington, D.C,
all I can say is good luck. I believe war is the only proven
method for bargaining with Atheists. At least Theist parents
warn their children to never salute, or pledge allegiance to
America's Atheist flag, and never stand for or sing with the
Atheist national anthem, "The Star Spangled Banner". That is
the least you can do. And who knows, 'EXPELLED' could become
something of a cult classic? I never saw 'The Matrix' at the
theatre, but on DVD, and a couple of times on HBO, and later
on AMC, and other cable television networks. Maybe 'EXPELLED'
could turn into a Ben Stein hosted gameshow on GSN? Could do
better in the long-run, but time is running out, seeing that
Friday, December 21st 2012, is *1704* days away and counting...
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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To begin with I haven't seen this film yet, but apparently a
whole lot of other people haven't seen this film yet, either.
I've been reading the favorable reviews on the blogs, though
there's no need to read Atheists' reviews of the film, since
everybody already knows what Atheists think, that 'EXPELLED'
is "nothing but garbage for brain-dead morons". Some reviews
are mixed, even among ID-proponents (most of whom are Chrino-
Atheists, closet-Atheists, Christians-in-name-onlyests, etc.)
No matter what they think, it appears that 'EXPELLED' bombed.
Earning barely 3 million in its premiere box office receipts
(for the weekend of April 18-20; ref. http://boxoffice.com/),
it pales by comparison to Mel Gibson's 2004 hit 'The Passion
of the Christ', which made $150 million in its first week of
release, and grossed $370 million nationwide, with over $600
million worldwide, or to Disney's 'The Chronicles of Narnia'
"Expelled" is a documentary. Documentaries never make as much money as
big-budget Hollywood blockbuster movies.
As a documentary produced by independent filmmakers, "Expelled" has done
well. Not as well as Michael Moore's trash, but well enough.
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Steven L.
Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
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Non scrivetemi wrote:
"Expelled" is a documentary. Documentaries never make as much money as
big-budget Hollywood blockbuster movies.
As a documentary produced by independent filmmakers, "Expelled" has done
well. Not as well as Michael Moore's trash, but well enough.
I thought CRAP always sells....
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Steven L.
Email: sdlitvin@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
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""Non scrivetemi"" <nonscrivetemi@pboxmix.winstonsmith.info> wrote in
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Got WHAT to do with guns?
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
Non scrivetemi wrote:
"Expelled" is a documentary. Documentaries never make as much money as
big-budget Hollywood blockbuster movies.
As a documentary produced by independent filmmakers, "Expelled" has done
well. Not as well as Michael Moore's trash, but well enough.
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Admittedly, I've been a fan of Michael Moore since 'Roger & Me'.
My favorite documentary he's made thus far is 'Fahrenheit 9/11',
which made 120 million US box office and 200 million worldwide.
That's pretty good money for a, quote, documentary produced by
an independent filmmaker. Maybe 'EXPELLED' will fare better in
matinee showings, but it's a tough sell...not because it isn't
true, but because the truth hurts too much for most sinners to
bear. They prefer to stay plugged into their neuralinteractive
dream world, the fairytale world of illusion and self-delusion.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
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Non scrivetemi wrote:
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To begin with I haven't seen this film yet, but apparently a
whole lot of other people haven't seen this film yet, either.
I've been reading the favorable reviews on the blogs, though
there's no need to read Atheists' reviews of the film, since
everybody already knows what Atheists think, that 'EXPELLED'
is "nothing but garbage for brain-dead morons". Some reviews
are mixed, even among ID-proponents (most of whom are Chrino-
Atheists, closet-Atheists, Christians-in-name-onlyests, etc.)
No matter what they think, it appears that 'EXPELLED' bombed.
Earning barely 3 million in its premiere box office receipts
(for the weekend of April 18-20; ref. http://boxoffice.com/),
it pales by comparison to Mel Gibson's 2004 hit 'The Passion
of the Christ',
Don't kid yourself. The only reason TPOFC was a hit was because kids
went to see it to see the gory parts, whole churches told their sheep to
see it and entire classrooms full of kids were "forced" to see it.
..
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We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
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Non scrivetemi wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008, "Steven L." <sdlitvin@earthlink.net> wrote:
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Admittedly, I've been a fan of Michael Moore since 'Roger & Me'.
My favorite documentary he's made thus far is 'Fahrenheit 9/11',
which made 120 million US box office and 200 million worldwide.
That's pretty good money for a, quote, documentary produced by
an independent filmmaker. Maybe 'EXPELLED' will fare better in
matinee showings, but it's a tough sell...not because it isn't
true, but because the truth hurts too much for most sinners to
bear. They prefer to stay plugged into their neuralinteractive
dream world, the fairytale world of illusion and self-delusion.
You know, back in the dark ages, you'd be cowering in a mud hut, fearful
of God's lightning, and watching most of your children die before the
age of two.
Today, you use the tamed lightning to further your superstitions - and
your children all survive to adulthood.
You go right ahead, gleaning the benefits of science, all the while
you've got your head buried solidly in the sand of superstition.
Armageddon Cometh,
No, it doesn't.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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Denial is not a river in Egypt.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
"Bama Brian" <eddyclay@mindspring.com> protested:
No, it doesn't.
"...Yes, he has been trying to comfort him-
self with these suppositions; but he had
found all in vain. All in vain; because
Death, in approaching him, had stalked
with his black shadow before him, and
enveloped the victim. And it was the
mornful influence of the unperceived
shadow that caused him to feel -- al-
though he neither saw nor heard -- to
feel the presence of my head within the
room...." --Edgar Allan Poe (1809-1849)
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,;::::::; ;' / KKKKKKK
;:::::::::`. ,,,;. / / KKKKKKK
.';:::::::::::::::::;, / / KAPPA
,::::::;::::::;;;;::::;, / / GLOOM
;`::::::`'::::::;;;::::: ,#/ / HADES
:`:::::::`;::::::;;::: ;::# / HELL
::`:::::::`;:::::::: ;::::# / DEAD
`:`:::::::`;:::::: ;::::::#/ YOU
:::`:::::::`;; ;:::::::::## KK
::::`:::::::`;::::::::;:::# KK
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"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to
the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment,
no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners
driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels
appointed over them to reproach them and threaten
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them
still downwards. Now those angels that are set over
these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell
itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually
hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the
hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of
this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great
prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful
expectation of a future judgment, and in effect
punished thereby: and not only so, but where they see
the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the just,
even hereby are they punished; for a chaos deep and
large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man
that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted,
nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to
attempt it, pass over it."--excerpt,'Discourse to the
Greeks concerning Hades'; Flavius Josephus (~37-95 AD)
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Non scrivetemi wrote:
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Denial is not a river in Egypt.
But you are the Queen of denial.
Armageddon Cometh,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/danieljosephmin/
"Bama Brian" <eddyclay@mindspring.com> protested:
"...Yes, he has been trying to comfort him-
self with these suppositions; but he had
found all in vain. All in vain; because
Death, in approaching him, had stalked
with his black shadow before him, and
enveloped the victim. And it was the
mornful influence of the unperceived
shadow that caused him to feel -- al-
though he neither saw nor heard -- to
feel the presence of my head within the
room...." --Edgar Allan Poe (1809-1849)
;::::;
;::::; :;
;:::::' :;
;:::::; ;.
,:::::' ; KKK\
::::::; ; KKKKK\
;:::::; ; KKKKKKKK
,;::::::; ;' / KKKKKKK
;:::::::::`. ,,,;. / / KKKKKKK
.';:::::::::::::::::;, / / KAPPA
,::::::;::::::;;;;::::;, / / GLOOM
;`::::::`'::::::;;;::::: ,#/ / HADES
:`:::::::`;::::::;;::: ;::# / HELL
::`:::::::`;:::::::: ;::::# / DEAD
`:`:::::::`;:::::: ;::::::#/ YOU
:::`:::::::`;; ;:::::::::## KK
::::`:::::::`;::::::::;:::# KK
`:::::`::::::::::::;'`:;::# K
`:::::`::::::::;' / / `:#
::::::`:::::;' / / `#
"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to
the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment,
no longer going with a good-will, but as prisoners
driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels
appointed over them to reproach them and threaten
them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them
still downwards. Now those angels that are set over
these souls drag them into the neighborhood of hell
itself; who, when they are hard by it, continually
hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the
hot vapor itself; but when they have a near view of
this spectacle, as of a terrible and exceeding great
prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful
expectation of a future judgment, and in effect
punished thereby: and not only so, but where they see
the place [or choir] of the fathers and of the just,
even hereby are they punished; for a chaos deep and
large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man
that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted,
nor can one that is unjust, if he were bold enough to
attempt it, pass over it."--excerpt,'Discourse to the
Greeks concerning Hades'; Flavius Josephus (~37-95 AD)
Clever. And absolutely useless in this discussion.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
Libertarian
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On Apr 21, 11:12 pm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Expelled" is a documentary. Documentaries never make as much money as
big-budget Hollywood blockbuster movies.
As a documentary produced by independent filmmakers, "Expelled" has done
well. Not as well as Michael Moore's trash, but well enough.
Well obviously they didn't have a liberal media providing millions of
dollars in advertising for free as Michael Moore did!
If the major media tells me what to think, I think it!
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On Apr 22, 11:11=A0am, Bama Brian <eddyc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Non scrivetemi wrote:
You know, back in the dark ages, you'd be cowering in a mud hut, fearful
of God's lightning, and watching most of your children die before the
age of two.
Today, you use the tamed lightning to further your superstitions - and
your children all survive to adulthood.
You go right ahead, gleaning the benefits of science, all the while
you've got your head buried solidly in the sand of superstition.
No, it doesn't.
--
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
George Santayana, 1863 - 1952
Cheers,
Bama Brian
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Who cares? If this movie rates a yawn it might be that most movie
goers reject the basic premise that there's a conflict between
creation and evolution, that God could not possibly have created the
species by using evolution, based on the forces of nature which he
himself had created. There's nothing stupider than a war based on
nothing.
Regards, RhymeCon
http://rhymecon.tripod.com
http://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/
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In article <BvdPj.130874$yE1.121477@attbi_s21>,
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> said:
[ in response to tey anouther insane screed from Daniel Joseph Min ]
Got WHAT to do with guns?
Damn near everybody in these newsgroups would like to shoot Daniel
in the face. Does that count?
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William December Starr <wdstarr@panix.com>
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On Apr 23, 7:35=A0am, RhymeCon <b...@neo.rr.com> wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:11=A0am, Bama Brian <eddyc...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Armageddon Cometh,
Who cares? If this movie rates a yawn it might be that most movie
goers reject the basic premise that there's a conflict between
creation and evolution, that God could not possibly have created the
species by using evolution, based on the forces of nature which he
himself had created. There's nothing stupider than a war based on
nothing.
Regards, RhymeConhttp://rhymecon.tripod.comhttp://rhymecon.tripod.com/2/- =
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Once again I=92m making a desperate attempt to post here because it=92s
become clear I=92ll never get a post accepted on the Rhymecon/ McCain
thread.
On May 8, 12:20 pm, buckeye <buckeye...@nospam.net> wrote:
:|RhymeCon wrote:
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:|And interestingly the founding manifest of the Americans United for
:|Separation of Church and State set one of its primary goals to
:|OVERTURN that 1947 Everson decision supported by Justice Hugo Black!
Your unsubstantiated claim is noted.
Thank you! I was hoping you'd ask for substantiation. Unfortunately my
source is from Americans United for Separation of Church and State
which you might argue is not a very reliable source; in fact they're a
bunch of screwballs. But at least they should know something about
their own history. Rob Boston, one of their Associate Editors, wrote
a history of Everson in the AU website at
http://www.au.org/site/News2?page=3DNewsArticle&id=3D8817&abbr=3Dcs_=
Please note in particular that he praises Justice Black's opinion in
Everson even while disagreeing with the high court=92s conclusion
allowing the busing subsidy. He also mentions the 1930 Cochran v.
Louisiana case in which the high court approved spending state funds
to furnish nonsectarian textbooks to Catholic schools.
Begin quote of Boston:
"National organizations have also rallied around the Everson language
affirming the church-state wall =96 even while disagreeing with the high
court=92s conclusion allowing the busing subsidy.
Americans United was formed in part as a reaction to Everson. While
many clergy and leaders in public education were pleased to see the
high court endorse the church-state wall, they were dismayed that a
court majority had, for the second time, extended tax aid to religious
schools.
AU=92s governing manifesto, issued on Nov. 20, 1947, cites the Everson
case and the earlier Cochran decision, noting, =93The four dissenting
justices in the bus-transportation case solemnly warned the nation
that these two breaches in the wall of sep=ADara=ADting church and state
are only the be=ADginning. =91That a third and a fourth breach, and still
others, will be attempted, we may be sure,=92 say the dissenting
justices.=94
The manifesto goes on to say that AU =93is determined to assert its full
strength to the end that there shall be no more breaches in this wall,
that the breaches already made shall be repaired, and that the
complete separation of church and state in an undivided state-
supported educational system shall be maintained.=94
End of Boston's quote.
I think you can see that this supports my quote exactly.
Now to switch subjects I'm not optimistic that this, or anything else
I send here, will ever be accepted and I don't know why, but I'll keep
trying. Each time I click SEND I get a message:
=93The group you are posting to is a Usenet group. Messages posted to
this group will make your email address visible to anyone on the
Internet.
You can only send to a maximum of 5 groups.
When I finally give up and try to exit the site I get a message:
Are you sure you want to navigate away from this page?
Your reply message has not been sent.
RhymeCon
http://rhymecon.tripod.com
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