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Recovering security deposit from landlord (california)



techman41973@yahoo.com (Joe Blo)
1/14/2004 8:50:38 AM


I moved out of an apartment in California in September. My rent was
payed in full, gave them 30 days notice and I left the apartment in
good condition. I am still waiting for my security deposit. The
apartment manager has been giving me the run-around every time I have
called, saying he will look into it. When I went back to California
for a visit last week, I confronted the apartment manager. He now says
there were holes in the walls and refuses to return the deposit. He
would not give me the tel# of the landlord, so I had to track her
down. She also is playing games. I believe I can collect in court
since they never sent me an itemized list of deductions from my
deposit within the 21 day period (by California law).
The apartment manager never did a walk through check of the apartment
before my exit.
I have a few questions.
#1 The complex owner and apartment manager has not accepted the two
certified letters I sent, formally requesting my security deposit. Can
I use my cell phone bill as evidence that I tried to collect? The cell
phone bill shows I spoke at length
with the landlord and apartment manager over the past months. How
else can I prove that I tried to collect my deposit over the past
months?
#2 Since small claims requires that I argue my case in person and I no
longer live in California, can I get my travel expenses reimbursed if
I win?
#3 Once I file the court case, am I required to accept payment from
the landlord if she decides to pay?
I may still want to go to court to collect fees, penalties etc.
#4 Is it necessary for me to have a copy of the lease?
#5 The landlord & apartment manager are now claiming they sent me an
itemized list of deductions from my security deposit within the 21 day
time period. This is total B.S. Do they have to prove that they sent
me this list or is it their word against mine?
#6 Who do I serve court papers to, the landlord or apartment manager?
Does the owner of the complex have to show up in court, or can she
send her apartment manager?
#7 In cases where the tenant wins, how often does the tenant also win
the bad faith retention fee of $600?
 
 
1/16/2004 9:26:45 AM


Joe Blo <techman41973@yahoo.com> wrote:
: I moved out of an apartment in California in September. My rent was
: payed in full, gave them 30 days notice and I left the apartment in
: good condition. I am still waiting for my security deposit. The
: apartment manager has been giving me the run-around every time I have
: called, saying he will look into it. When I went back to California
: for a visit last week, I confronted the apartment manager. He now says
Not an attorney as they say.
Take a look over at http://www.nolo.com and search for the new security
deposit law for California, effective Jan 1, 2004. or search for
California Civil Code Section 1950(g).
From Nolo's website: "Under current law, landlords must itemize deductions
from a tennant's security deposit within three weeks of the tenant's departure.
"I'm not certain but it may not be retroactive. Perhaps an attorney here
can clarify that issue.
b.
 
 
"Stuart O. Bronstein"
1/16/2004 9:26:46 AM


techman41973@yahoo.com (Joe Blo) wrote:
I moved out of an apartment in California in September. My rent
was payed in full, gave them 30 days notice and I left the
apartment in good condition. I am still waiting for my security
deposit.

#1 The complex owner and apartment manager has not accepted the
two certified letters I sent, formally requesting my security
deposit. Can I use my cell phone bill as evidence that I tried
to collect?
Are you talking about the small claims court requirement for asking
for it before you sue? Yes, that should be sufficient. I've never
seen anyone dispute that this requirement was met, so I doubt it
will be a problem.
#2 Since small claims requires that I argue my case in person
and I no longer live in California, can I get my travel expenses
reimbursed if I win?
Unlikely. However it is likely that you can schedule the hearing at
your convenience, for a time when you will be in California anyway,
if that will happen. Make sure to start it far enough in advance -
at least 120 days to be sure you can get the date you want.
#3 Once I file the court case, am I required to accept payment
from the landlord if she decides to pay?
No, but if she's willing to pay you in full, that's likely all you
will get from the judge, other than the possibility of a small
amount of interest. You may get a statutory penalty on top, but I
wouldn't hold my breath.
#4 Is it necessary for me to have a copy of the lease?
It is not necessary, but it would be helpful.
#5 The landlord & apartment manager are now claiming they sent
me an itemized list of deductions from my security deposit
within the 21 day time period. This is total B.S. Do they have
to prove that they sent me this list or is it their word against
mine?
While they are supposed to do that, the fact that they didn't won't
likely be considered significant by the judge. He'll determine how
much you are entitled to get back and may allow them to keep some
even if they didn't give proper notice.
#6 Who do I serve court papers to, the landlord or
apartment manager?
It's best to serve the owner, who will also be the defendant.
Does the owner of the complex have to show up
in court, or can she send her apartment manager?
The manager can't represent her, but he can appear to give evidence.
Stu
 
 
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