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theorangehornet@webtv.net (Orange Hornet)
7/10/2004 3:36:33 PM


I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal
name change? Years ago, I heard that the price was $100. It would
have to be much higher by now. Right now my finances are not in the
best shape. Even if I could get the money, it might seem trivial.
I can understand the problem about criminals. But name changes
should be easier and cheaper. It is a common name, but I have wanted to
ditch it for years. If it had been the middle name, things would go
much easier. I have never liked how using the initial at front looked
or sounded.
It has caused me some problems on the job front. Correcting an
interviewer is never a good way to start off. Also, if I change the
name, would this be public record? I would prefer to not get in the
papers under court records. Printing arrests bugs me. If the person is
cleared, we may never know.
 
 
Stan Brown
7/12/2004 6:24:56 PM


"Orange Hornet" <theorangehornet@webtv.net> wrote in
misc.legal.moderated:
Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal name change?
Assuming you live in the US, simply start using your new name, and
notify everyone you deal with that you have changed it.
Though it's not strictly necessary in law, it's convenient if you
get a court order blessing the change. The clerk of courts at your
county courthouse(*) can explain the procedure to you and hand you a
form to fill out. In some jurisdictions you'll need to show up in
court; in others a judge simply rules on the paperwork. In neither
case do you need an attorney.
When I did it in Cleveland, Ohio, about 10 years ago, the cost was
$55.
(*) Probably you want "probate court". Just ask at the reception
desk in the courthouse where you go to change your own name. Mention
to each person you deal with that you're acting for yourself and
you're not an attorney; you'll probably be surprised how helpful
most will be.
--
If you e-mail me from a fake address, your fingers will drop off.
I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. When you read anything
legal on the net, always verify it on your own, in light of your
particular circumstances. You may also need to consult a lawyer.
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
 
 
Gerald Clough
7/12/2004 6:25:03 PM


Orange Hornet wrote:
I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal
name change? Years ago, I heard that the price was $100. It would
have to be much higher by now. Right now my finances are not in the
best shape. Even if I could get the money, it might seem trivial.
I can understand the problem about criminals. But name changes
should be easier and cheaper. It is a common name, but I have wanted to
ditch it for years. If it had been the middle name, things would go
much easier. I have never liked how using the initial at front looked
or sounded.
It has caused me some problems on the job front. Correcting an
interviewer is never a good way to start off. Also, if I change the
name, would this be public record? I would prefer to not get in the
papers under court records. Printing arrests bugs me. If the person is
cleared, we may never know.
How difficult or expensive depends on your state. There will be a
specific procedure involving a court appearance. You will almost
certainly need fingeprints taken by a law enforcement agency. They will
be used to update any criminal records. You can't avoid that.
Fingerprints are the means of associating individuals with arrests and
convictions. The courthouse has a law library that should be available
to you to read the applicable statutes.
As to the public record, almost all docket matters are public. Whether
they are printed or not is up to the local newspaper.
One way that often works to get sample forms is to ask the clerk of the
court that has jurisdiction to sell you copies from any recent adult
name change action. (It's somewhat different for child name changes.)
Clerks can't give you advice, but they can sell you copies of public
records. Filing fees may not be as high as you think. The clerk can tell
you. There may be other fees associated with the change, such as
changing the name on your birth certificate, issuance of new drivers
license, etc.
The process can't be simpler for non-criminals, since the process is how
it's discovered is there's a criminal record that needs changing.
--
Gerald Clough
"Nothing has any value, unless you know you can give it up."
 
 
shawnaty@aol.com (amuckone)
7/12/2004 6:25:38 PM




theorangehornet@webtv.net (Orange Hornet) wrote in message
news:<3jf0f0df6kjrtoju12ict00q3c4u0eb6bl@4ax.com>...

I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal
name change? Years ago, I heard that the price was $100. It would
have to be much higher by now. Right now my finances are not in the
best shape. Even if I could get the money, it might seem trivial.
I can understand the problem about criminals. But name changes
should be easier and cheaper. It is a common name, but I have wanted to
ditch it for years. If it had been the middle name, things would go
much easier. I have never liked how using the initial at front looked
or sounded.
It has caused me some problems on the job front. Correcting an
interviewer is never a good way to start off. Also, if I change the
name, would this be public record? I would prefer to not get in the
papers under court records. Printing arrests bugs me. If the person is
cleared, we may never know.
They are $100 in Tennessee currently.
 
 
Tam
7/12/2004 6:25:54 PM


On 10/7/04 20:36, in article 3jf0f0df6kjrtoju12ict00q3c4u0eb6bl@4ax.com,
"Orange Hornet" <theorangehornet@webtv.net> wrote:
I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal
name change?
You could, if you claim to be domiciled in England, change your name by deed
poll.
http://www.ukdps.co.uk/?source=espotting
http://www.thelawis.co.uk/changename/
This would be difficult (although not impossible) to accomplish without
going there.
In US states you can do the work yourself. See, for example:
http://www.uslegalforms.com/florida-name-change.htm
The court fees for name change in California don't seem particularly steep.
A names change packet costs $3 plus postage; doubtless there is a filing fee
as well:
http://www.co.kern.ca.us/courts/feeschedule.asp
 
 
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg
7/12/2004 6:26:02 PM


On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:36:33 -0400, theorangehornet@webtv.net (Orange
Hornet) in misc.legal.moderated, wrote the following:
I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a legal
name change? Years ago, I heard that the price was $100. It would
have to be much higher by now. Right now my finances are not in the
best shape. Even if I could get the money, it might seem trivial.
While it depends upon your state law, I would check with the Court of
Probate in your area and see if there is a simple method of name change.
I know some years ago I changed my name for business reasons. As I
recall, in Alabama, it was a matter of filling out a form and cost me
less than $20.00.
--
Katherine Griffis-Greenberg, J.D.
DISCLAIMER:
Not a practicing attorney, and no attorney-client relationship
is created. This response is for discussion purposes only. It
isn't meant to be legal advice. If you wish legal advice, seek
out an attorney in your own state who is familar with your
state's laws and applications thereof.
 
 
"Paul Cassel"
7/12/2004 6:26:07 PM


Orange Hornet wrote:
I just found this group. Is there an inexpensive way to get a
legal name change?
I can appreciate if you are named Orange Hornet, or Hornet Orange, it may be
difficult on the job. Here is an outfit which claims it will change your
name legally today for about U$80 in all 50 States:
http://www.namechangelaw.com/
The requirement is simple. You can't do so to escape legal obligations or in
other words to defraud someone or something or of course as you know, to
escape criminal sanctions.Other than that, the sky is the limit as is the
hive. If you do a common Internet search, you'll find other similar
services. I've personally reserched none of them. If you are uncomfortable,
a local attorney will do the service for a bit more money, but I'm sure, at
a great deal higher comfort level too. I suggest you go for Blue Butterfly
if it's not taken.
-paul aka Azure Dragonfly
 
 
"Arthur L. Rubin"
7/13/2004 5:48:15 PM


Paul Cassel wrote:
Orange Hornet wrote:
I can appreciate if you are named Orange Hornet, or Hornet Orange, it may be
difficult on the job.
Especially since Green Hornet has a criminal record. <VBG>
--
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I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me
and it bounces, a second try might work.
However, please reply in newsgroup.
 
 
arcadianrises@aol.com (Arcadian Rises)
7/15/2004 12:48:40 PM


In article <nl36f0houip05qnl5fr6qlbomssrt2kr21@4ax.com>, "Paul Cassel"
<paul1@abq.com> writes:
You can't do so [change name] to escape legal obligations or in
other words to defraud someone or something or of course as you know, to
escape criminal sanctions.Other than that, the sky is the limit as is the
hive.
More or less. New York law requires the petitioner to state a reason for the
change and the judge may not agree with the reason, on public policy grounds. A
typical example: a mistress cannot cange her last name to match her married
lover's last name.
An obvious example of denial of name change is when the petitioner picks out an
obscene name.
I wonder if a New York judge would approve a petition to change one's name to
"Saddam Hussein".
 
 
Stuart Bronstein
7/17/2004 11:51:17 AM


Arcadian Rises wrote:
"Paul Cassel" <paul1@abq.com> writes:
More or less. New York law requires the petitioner to state a
reason for the change and the judge may not agree with the
reason, on public policy grounds. A typical example: a
mistress cannot cange her last name to match her married
lover's last name.
I don't think that's against public policy in California.
An obvious example of denial of name change is when the petitioner
picks out an obscene name.
I was once consulted by a guy whose petition for change of name was
turned down by the court when he wanted to be called God.
I wonder if a New York judge would approve a petition to
change one's name to "Saddam Hussein".
In California, probably yes.
Stu
 
 
Stan Brown
7/17/2004 11:51:30 AM


"Arcadian Rises" <arcadianrises@aol.com> wrote in
misc.legal.moderated:
I wonder if a New York judge would approve a petition to change one's name to
"Saddam Hussein".
In Maryland a couple of decades ago, Attorney General Francis W.
Burch tried to change his name legally to Bill Burch. He'd been
using Bill for some time, as the "W" stood for William. Burch was
planning a run for the governor's office, and he thought "Bill"
would look better on a ballot than the snooty-ass "Francis".(*)
The other candidate -- probably Hyman Pressman, but it might have
been someone else, opposed the name change for the same reason Burch
wanted it. The judge asked if the other candidate was opposed to any
possible name change, and Pressman (or whoever) said "It's all right
with me if he wants to call himself Caligula." I don't think Burch
ever did get his name change.
Anyone know of any other name changes denied where there was no
question of fraud or obscenity but simply an objection from a member
of the public?
(*) For the record, I don't share that sentiment, but I doubt that I
am representative of the average voter.
--
If you e-mail me from a fake address, your fingers will drop off.
I am not a lawyer; this is not legal advice. When you read anything
legal on the net, always verify it on your own, in light of your
particular circumstances. You may also need to consult a lawyer.
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
 
 
"Daniel R. Reitman"
7/17/2004 11:52:36 AM


On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:24:56 -0400, Stan Brown
<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:
. . . .
Though it's not strictly necessary in law, it's convenient if you
get a court order blessing the change. The clerk of courts at your
county courthouse(*) can explain the procedure to you and hand you a
form to fill out. In some jurisdictions you'll need to show up in
court; in others a judge simply rules on the paperwork. In neither
case do you need an attorney.
When I did it in Cleveland, Ohio, about 10 years ago, the cost was
$55.
In Oregon, the filing fee is running about $100, plus a few dollars to
buy the forms from either the court or the leading legal forms
publisher. One hearing is required. Otherwise, the most important
point is to remember that the prehearing notice and the posthearing
notice have to be posted in the courthouse for 21 days each and a
proof of posting filed.
(*) Probably you want "probate court". . . .
Not necessarily. In Oregon, it's the domestic relations department;
in Washington, it's District (i.e., limited jurisdiction) Court.
Daniel Reitman
 
 
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