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The situation is this ... about 5 years ago, my practically illiterate 76 year-old father, who was diagnosed with Parkinson's and prescribed medication not long (at the time), was creating havoc (attempting suicide, making a mess of the house, throwing temper tantrums, etc.) at home. After a period of this daily craziness, we (my mom, 2nd brother and myself) tried to bring my father in to get a psychiatric evaluation as suggested by the physicians who attended to my father when he attempted suicide. The physicians said that the behavior may be due to the medication. My father objected to the evaluation and contacted his eldest son, who doesn't get along with mom and hasn't been around the family for close to a decade, to check him out of the hospital. Not long after leaving the hospital, my father was placed in an elder care home. The eldest son took advantage of the situation and somehow got my father to agree to divorce my mom after ~50 years of marriage so that he can gain control of my father and his assets. During and since the divorce to my father's recent death, my eldest brother would not allow any other family member near my father for fear that he may lose control of my father. He was also able to get my father to give him Power of Attorney. My guess is that he was probably able to get my father to draw up the Will in his favor. Again, my father is practically illiterate and is not aware of legal matters at all. Since the eldest son has POA, does that mean that he can take everything that belonged to my father leaving nothing for other family members (which I believe to be his intentions)? Is there anything that can be done about this extreme abuse of power? Thanks in advance
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In article <h2fbv091d943vu31b97opglh8e8li0gcdo@4ax.com>, "Lin" <lin@no_thanks.com> wrote:
Since the eldest son has POA, does that mean that he can take everything that belonged to my father leaving nothing for other family members (which I believe to be his intentions)? Is there anything that can be done about this extreme abuse of power?
The person who has the power of attorney for another can make any decision they want to for that person, within the limits granted in the power of attorney document. You still may have some recourse. It appears that your father was acting irrationally during the time when he signed this document. You may be able to argue in court that your father was not mentally sound when he signed the POA, so it should be invalidated by the court. You will need a family lawyer to pursue this action. -john- -- ====================================================================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ======================================================================
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John A. Weeks III wrote:
In article <h2fbv091d943vu31b97opglh8e8li0gcdo@4ax.com>, "Lin" <lin@no_thanks.com> wrote: The person who has the power of attorney for another can make any decision they want to for that person, within the limits granted in the power of attorney document.
The "standard" power of attorney form does not allow the attorney-in-fact to give himself more than the annual gift tax exclusion. I don't know whether that is a requirement in law, or not, but both stationery store forms and a durable POA drawn up so that my wife could take care of her mother's affairs has that provision. -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup.
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
John A. Weeks III wrote: The "standard" power of attorney form does not allow the attorney-in-fact to give himself more than the annual gift tax exclusion.
I've never seen a "standard" power of attorney that gave the holder the power to make any gifts whatsoever. In fact, the law states that the holder of a power of attorney is not permitted to make gifts, either to himself or anyone else, unless specifically permitted in the document that creates the power. In addition, the holder of the power has a fiduciary duty not to do anything that will injure the creator of the power or to benefit himself at the expense of the holder of the power. Stu
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Stuart Bronstein wrote:
Arthur L. Rubin wrote: I've never seen a "standard" power of attorney that gave the holder the power to make any gifts whatsoever. In fact, the law states that the holder of a power of attorney is not permitted to make gifts, either to himself or anyone else, unless specifically permitted in the document that creates the power.
In the case of a durable POA for someone who is expected to become legally incompetent, it is "standard" for the POA to allow nominal gifts. The particular agreements allow arbitrary gifts, either made from the trust or under the POA, but no more than the IRS limit may be given to the trustee. Gifts in excess of the limit can be given to other parties. I recall seeing the limitation on gifts in the stationery store form, but there's also a prohibition on gifts. -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup.
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nospam@isp.com wrote:
- the also separate and even more basic (commonly applicable state law) prohibition, (VERY) strongly presumed to apply in all fifty U.S. states, against an agent's self-dealing with the principal's assets (so that, also contrary to Mr. Rubin's apparent belief otherwise, an agent's invoking a POA as the authority to give a "gift" to the agent personally of the principal's funds would, and should, be very strictly scrutinized if such a transaction were discovered and then disputed).
I withdraw my claim that it's "standard" -- however, this specific POA and "living trust" agreement specifically allow the attorney-in-fact and trustee to make gifts, provided only that the gift tax limit is not exceeded on gifts to the attorney-in-fact/trustee. I suppose it's possible that the clause is void, or limited (in the case of the POA) to situations in which the intent of the trustor is clear, but the clause is in the agreement. -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup.
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
I withdraw my claim that it's "standard" -- however, this specific POA and "living trust" agreement specifically allow the attorney-in-fact and trustee to make gifts, provided only that the gift tax limit is not exceeded on gifts to the attorney-in-fact/trustee. I suppose it's possible that the clause is void, or limited (in the case of the POA) to situations in which the intent of the trustor is clear, but the clause is in the agreement.
Actually, the clause (at least as far as I'm aware) is completely valid. But gift giving is one of those things that is considered so personal that it won't be allowed unless it is specifically stated in the POA or trust. Stu
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