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Can creditor affect joint-ownership of home (in probate? after?)



beachshark1@yahoo.com
5/18/2005 1:44:38 PM


A brother had a vehicle repossessed. Myself and his other siblings are
in the process of finalizing probate, which at the end of this process
we four will be co-owners of a home.
What possible complications can come from my brother's creditor? Right
after the repossession, an account manager for the creditor asked him
his home ownership status and he filled them in.
Can there be problems before the probate is settled? Can they put a
lien on the home, even though he owns but one-quarter? Can they force
a sale? Other potential problems?
Thank you.
 
 
lawdog
5/20/2005 8:55:52 PM


On Wed, 18 May 2005 13:44:38 -0400, beachshark1@yahoo.com wrote:
Can there be problems before the probate is settled? Can they put a
lien on the home, even though he owns but one-quarter? Can they force
a sale? Other potential problems?
It depends on the state, but I will use California as an example. In
California, the creditor would need to sue and obtain a judgment.
After entry of judgment, judgment creditor could obtain an abstract of
judgment. The abstract is recorded at the county recorders office and
places a lien on any property in the name of the judgment debtor and
that woudl include your brother's one-quarter interest.
If you maintain this as a rental property, the judgment creditor could
garnish your brother's portion of the rent. A really aggressive
judgment creditor could get a writ of execution and have your
brother's interest in the property auctioned off.
Theses are possibly scenarious, but the LIKELY scenario will depend on
things like the amount of the debt and how much effort the creditor
willing to go to collect.
 
 
John Hyde
5/21/2005 7:19:41 PM


beachshark1@yahoo.com wrote:
A brother had a vehicle repossessed. Myself and his other siblings are
in the process of finalizing probate, which at the end of this process
we four will be co-owners of a home.
What possible complications can come from my brother's creditor? Right
after the repossession, an account manager for the creditor asked him
his home ownership status and he filled them in.
Can there be problems before the probate is settled? Can they put a
lien on the home, even though he owns but one-quarter?
They can get a judgment lien on his interest in the home, not the entire
thing. If they forclosed that interest, sold it to the highest bidder,
then you might have a new co-owner.
Can they force
a sale? Other potential problems?
Probably not. Most states have a "partition" statue that allows one
owner to force a division of real estate (or conversion to cash and then
division) under certain circumstances. My guess is that a court would
not allow partition to satisfy a claimant who bought a 1/4 interest for
the value of a vehicle repo deficiency.
Now that you know that, what do you think of the likelihood of *anyone*
spending *anything* at a forclosure sale?
My guess is that they would be satisfied to let their judgement attach
to the propery and collect from his share when and if it is later sold.
But then, you have not told us what State, the dollar amounts
involved, etc.
JH
Thank you.
 
 
"Stuart A. Bronstein"
5/22/2005 2:19:48 PM


John Hyde <EJhyd@netscape.net> wrote:
beachshark1@yahoo.com wrote:
A brother had a vehicle repossessed. Myself and his other
siblings are in the process of finalizing probate, which at the
end of this process we four will be co-owners of a home.
Can there be problems before the probate is settled? Can they
put a lien on the home, even though he owns but one-quarter?
Probably not. Most states have a "partition" statue that allows
one owner to force a division of real estate (or conversion to
cash and then division) under certain circumstances. My guess
is that a court would not allow partition to satisfy a claimant
who bought a 1/4 interest for the value of a vehicle repo
deficiency.
In California partition usually means sale, since that's the only
way it can actually be divided. An owner of a quarter can force
the sale, but the other three can purchase if they choose.
Now that you know that, what do you think of the likelihood of
*anyone* spending *anything* at a forclosure sale?
It's likely the creditor alone would bid - and perhaps a number
lower than the amount he is owed. Even though the brother's share
of the house may be worth more than the debt, if the creditor ends
up buying it for less, brother could still end up owing money.
My guess is that they would be satisfied to let their judgement
attach to the propery and collect from his share when and if it
is later sold.
That's generally what's done, yes.
Stu
 
 
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