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drainage question , un-incorporated area



frogie
7/13/2005 12:17:33 PM


California
Our property drains to a ditch that runs in front of our only neighbor
and because they decided to not like us., they say we have no right to
use "their" ditch. it's on a private road and we are trying to find out
who "owns" the road or is it shared by people on either side
we think our best luck is prescriptive easement , as this situation has
existed for 22 years.
any ideas?
--
Money doesn't just talk, it swears.
 
 
bonomi@host122.r-bonomi.com (Robert Bonomi)
7/14/2005 5:31:36 PM


In article <2jfad19ikn59lrsa8nbe6isd5r1fb2r5kb@4ax.com>,
frogie <georgek@humboldt1.com> wrote:
California
Our property drains to a ditch that runs in front of our only neighbor
and because they decided to not like us., they say we have no right to
use "their" ditch. it's on a private road and we are trying to find out
who "owns" the road or is it shared by people on either side
we think our best luck is prescriptive easement , as this situation has
existed for 22 years.
any ideas?
Note: 'water rights', and related matters, are a *very* messy and convoluted
part of real-estate law. For authoritative answers, you need to consult
a legal professional *in*your*venue* that specializes in such matters.
That said, the following "generally" holds true --
The natural flow of run-off water from one plot of land to another plot,
is an act of God. Criticial factor: "natural" -- if you've "messed with"
the water flow, and problems arise _as_a_result_of_ that 'messing', you *do*
have liability for damages caused, and to 'make things right' again.
If you haven't done anything to change the amount, direction, etc. of the
previously existing run-off pattern, they have no basis for any action
against you. Further, if *they* make changes to/on _their_ property that
adversely affects the run-off pattern on _your_ property (e.g. building
a dam -- to prevent water that previously entered their property from
continuing to do so -- _you_ have basis for a lawsuit against them.
 
 
Paul Cassel
7/14/2005 5:31:39 PM


frogie wrote:
California
Our property drains to a ditch that runs in front of our only neighbor
and because they decided to not like us., they say we have no right to
use "their" ditch. it's on a private road and we are trying to find out
who "owns" the road or is it shared by people on either side
we think our best luck is prescriptive easement , as this situation has
existed for 22 years.
any ideas?
1. Check with the county clerk to see if you can clarify ownership of
the land at issue including the road.
2. What is the neighbor doing to prevent your use of the ditch -
assuming runoff is use which I'm not fully sure it is?
3. If you get right down to it, I think you may have a case for a
prescriptive easement. You'll need to file a quiet title suit and prove
the adverse use has been going on for more than the statuatory period
(which I think in CA is 5 years). If you do file, then contact the
neighbor asking if he'll back off given the alternative is a risk of you
prevailing in this easement.
-paul
ianal
 
 
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