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The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Dr. Cadell, a clinical psychologist and author, is telling her
celebrity clients to get a sexual consent form signed before they get
their mack up. And she's not kidding. She says, "Unfortunately the
world has come to something like a sexual consent form, but it's no
different from a pre-nup."
Although Dr. Cadell isn't naming names, she says several of her high
profile clients are already using the form. There are two versions,
available for download on her website, www.avacadell.com - the short
form and the long form. She explains, "It says by initialing this, I
agree to engage in all or some of the following acts and you check
each of the boxes. There's sexual fondling, petting, kissing, sexual
intercourse, there's oral copulation either mutual or unilateral, and
the last box is other so you can specify whatever you want."
But can celebrities really count on this piece of paper to keep them
out of trouble? Hollywood attorney Joseph Hart specializes in
entertainment contracts. He says one part of the sexual consent form
really will protect celebrities. He says, "That's the part that deals
with privacy, and it's important for a celebrity to keep sexual
behavior private and this contract is legal in that it keeps the
person from disclosing private facts about the sexual behavior of
another person."
But Hart says the most crucial part of this contract has problems. The
part that reads, "I further agree to not change my mind before the sex
act is over." Hart says, "Just because there's a contract, doesn't
mean that every part of the contract is enforceable. A person can
always change their mind, especially on the subject of rape."
Dr. Cadell adds, "In a court of law they can pull any contract to
pieces even a will or a pre-nup, but it's better to have something
than nothing signed."
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On 30-Aug-2003, "Anony Mouse" <mousie@nospam.net> wrote:
Most decent human beings abide by a written contract but you will still
have
women who will weasel out in order to fake a rape, possibly claiming that
she changed their mind.
Is video taping the entire event the wave of the future? Although
degrading
and cumbersome to set up, is it legal to protect your good name in this
way
and can it be used as evidence in court?
How else can a guy protect himself from such a dangerous scam?
2 hidden video cameras (one shows an unblocked door and the other covers the
bed), an audio and video recording of the *entire* encounter, and using a
polyurethane condom with spermicide should provide the most protection.
They are making BW wireless video cameras small enough to be easily hidden
anywhere (pager, pen,...), just put in fresh batteries before the
encounter, capture the video/audio with a laptop or VCR, and you are all
set.
During the activity the man should encourage some dialog to further weaken
the woman's case. Imagine Kobe's case if he had audio of Faber talking
about how much she loves big black d**k and likes it rough.
Without a consent form the tape will probably be inadmissible in court, but
the existence if the tape should deter most prosecutors. I'd post the video
on Imesh and contaminate the jury pool. Even Gloria Aldred wouldn't take
that case.
Dexter M. Duck
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In article <zQ44b.17180$Ih1.6215836@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
dduck531@ameritech.net says...
During the activity the man should encourage some dialog to further weaken
the woman's case. Imagine Kobe's case if he had audio of Faber talking
about how much she loves big black d**k and likes it rough.
Yeah, see, the problem with that is the potentially completely damning
evidence if the tape shows exactly the opposite. (And tapes that are supposed
to be destroyed sometimes end up where people don't want them.)
-Tim
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On 8/30/03 8:13 AM, in article
6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com, "s_knight8"
<s_knight8@hotmail.com> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in the midst of
saying:
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Dr. Cadell, a clinical psychologist and author, is telling her
celebrity clients to get a sexual consent form signed before they get
their mack up. And she's not kidding. She says, "Unfortunately the
world has come to something like a sexual consent form, but it's no
different from a pre-nup."
Although Dr. Cadell isn't naming names, she says several of her high
profile clients are already using the form. There are two versions,
available for download on her website, www.avacadell.com - the short
form and the long form. She explains, "It says by initialing this, I
agree to engage in all or some of the following acts and you check
each of the boxes. There's sexual fondling, petting, kissing, sexual
intercourse, there's oral copulation either mutual or unilateral, and
the last box is other so you can specify whatever you want."
But can celebrities really count on this piece of paper to keep them
out of trouble? Hollywood attorney Joseph Hart specializes in
entertainment contracts. He says one part of the sexual consent form
really will protect celebrities. He says, "That's the part that deals
with privacy, and it's important for a celebrity to keep sexual
behavior private and this contract is legal in that it keeps the
person from disclosing private facts about the sexual behavior of
another person."
But Hart says the most crucial part of this contract has problems. The
part that reads, "I further agree to not change my mind before the sex
act is over." Hart says, "Just because there's a contract, doesn't
mean that every part of the contract is enforceable. A person can
always change their mind, especially on the subject of rape."
Dr. Cadell adds, "In a court of law they can pull any contract to
pieces even a will or a pre-nup, but it's better to have something
than nothing signed."
I just get videotaped depositions of both consent and the acts themselves,
so I am protected.
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com...
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Dr. Cadell, a clinical psychologist and author, is telling her
celebrity clients to get a sexual consent form signed before they get
their mack up. And she's not kidding. She says, "Unfortunately the
world has come to something like a sexual consent form, but it's no
different from a pre-nup."
LOL.
That has to be the lust killer par excellence. "Uh, baby, youre hot, come
here, sign this."
Although Dr. Cadell isn't naming names, she says several of her high
profile clients are already using the form. There are two versions,
available for download on her website, www.avacadell.com - the short
form and the long form.
Cool, a download for personal use.
She explains, "It says by initialing this, I
agree to engage in all or some of the following acts and you check
each of the boxes. There's sexual fondling, petting, kissing, sexual
intercourse, there's oral copulation either mutual or unilateral, and
the last box is other so you can specify whatever you want."
"Yo baby, dont forget to check the anal penetration box."
To imagine this situation is absurd.
Especially when the athlete has to interupt because he forgot what hes
allowed to do and what not.
But can celebrities really count on this piece of paper to keep them
out of trouble? Hollywood attorney Joseph Hart specializes in
entertainment contracts. He says one part of the sexual consent form
really will protect celebrities. He says, "That's the part that deals
with privacy, and it's important for a celebrity to keep sexual
behavior private and this contract is legal in that it keeps the
person from disclosing private facts about the sexual behavior of
another person."
But Hart says the most crucial part of this contract has problems. The
part that reads, "I further agree to not change my mind before the sex
act is over." Hart says, "Just because there's a contract, doesn't
mean that every part of the contract is enforceable. A person can
always change their mind, especially on the subject of rape."
Dr. Cadell adds, "In a court of law they can pull any contract to
pieces even a will or a pre-nup, but it's better to have something
than nothing signed."
I wouldnt want to use one of those, Im the romantic type ;-). Id keep it
like Rodman and have a Bodyguard in the next room. You might have to get
used to the idea that he can hear you, but a testimony from an eye-witness
is always better than a contract in a situation like this. And the lady
doesnt even have to know hes there.
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In article <zQ44b.17180$Ih1.6215836@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
dduck531@ameritech.net says...
Yeah, see, the problem with that is the potentially completely damning
evidence if the tape shows exactly the opposite.
I'm a little confused by this. The guy being falsely accused could prove
his innocence by showing the video.
If I understood you correctly, only a real rapist would have anything to
worry about since the episode has been recorded.
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On 8/30/03 8:13 AM, in article
6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com, "s_knight8"
<s_knight8@hotmail.com> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in the midst
of
saying:
I just get videotaped depositions of both consent and the acts themselves,
so I am protected.
Another good idea, even better than a contract. Now to put it in a way that
doesn't spoil the mood:
"Hey sexy, look into the camera. Today is Saturday Aug. 30, 2003. We're
going to have a nice time all night, right? I can't wait to ___ and ___
you. Are you going to ___ me good tonight? Tell us how much you want it."
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I wouldnt want to use one of those, Im the romantic type ;-).
I think that most people (male & female) are the romantic type.
Too bad other people have to ruin things for everyone with their bogus
accusations. Too bad people don't use common sense and avoid going into
hotel rooms or situations where they might be scarred and traumatized for
life.
Too bad that "personal responsibility" is a thing of the past--a person is
no longer responsible for their actions when they are hurt. Beginning with
the judicial system, society labels all hurt people regardless of gender as
"victims". If get fat, it's not my fault. I'm the victim because I've had
too many of those tasty Big Macs and greasy fries.
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On 8/30/03 10:52 AM, in article Uv54b.4626$sl.199651@twister.austin.rr.com,
"Anony Mouse" <mousie@nospam.net> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in
the midst of saying:
of
Another good idea, even better than a contract. Now to put it in a way that
doesn't spoil the mood:
"Hey sexy, look into the camera. Today is Saturday Aug. 30, 2003. We're
going to have a nice time all night, right? I can't wait to ___ and ___
you. Are you going to ___ me good tonight? Tell us how much you want it."
100% security from subsequent litigation.
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Although Dr. Cadell isn't naming names, she says several of her high
profile clients are already using the form. There are two versions,
available for download on her website, www.avacadell.com - the short
form and the long form.
Cool, a download for personal use.
"Yo baby, dont forget to check the anal penetration box."
The trouble is, if she doesn't check the "explicit talk about
sexual acts" box, you can't even SHOW her the "anal penetration" box.
Do we need a Sexual Consent Form Consent Form?
Other things not mentioned: does this form have an expiration date?
She might consent tonight only. If she consents tonight, she might
not want to keep going beyond the point of exhaustion or pain even
if there's still time left in the night. And what about the acts
HE won't do? (such as intentionally trying to get her pregnant).
The list of acts suggested is way too short, and surely needs
qualifiers like "only with a condom in use", "only WITHOUT a condom
in use" or "only with a clean AIDS test certificate". Also, wouldn't
this form be a good place to agree about what to do with a child
if one results from, say, condom failure? (Who gets custody, put
the child up for adoption, etc.)
Gordon L. Burditt
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Anony Mouse wrote:
Is video taping the entire event the wave of the future? Although degrading
and cumbersome to set up, is it legal to protect your good name in this way
and can it be used as evidence in court?
But, as Tommy and Pamela as well as Vince have learned, it can be used for
a bit more than courtroom evidence.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
collardg@earthlink.net
"A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in
human history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila."
-- Mitch Ratliffe
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com...
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
Wouldn't that take the romance out of it?
I think the only (but still ridiculous) response would be to set
a tape or cd recorder running. Of course, you'd have to erase
everything before the wife would get her hands on it...
Alex
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On 30 Aug 2003 08:13:17 -0700, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8)
wrote:
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
If it's the case that the charges are bogus, what to @$#* is wrong
with a judicial system that allows these charges to proceed? In any
case, I don't feel sorry for the pompous prick. Using fame and fortune
to screw yourself silly is despicable behavior. Too bad these other
stupid @$#*ing jocks don't get the same treatment. Seeing these guys
@$#*ed over brings great joy to my heart.
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On 8/30/03 1:06 PM, in article 3F5103C7.A4DB33A5@netscape.net, "Gary
Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in
the midst of saying:
Anony Mouse wrote:
But, as Tommy and Pamela as well as Vince have learned, it can be used for
a bit more than courtroom evidence.
All you need is a safe, really.
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Most decent human beings abide by a written contract but you will still
have
women who will weasel out in order to fake a rape, possibly claiming that
she changed their mind.
Is video taping the entire event the wave of the future? Although
degrading
and cumbersome to set up, is it legal to protect your good name in this
way
and can it be used as evidence in court?
How else can a guy protect himself from such a dangerous scam?
Well...there is always...maybe not actually engaging in illicit sexual
activities in the first place! Thought of that?
v/r Beau
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Don't commit adultery and you won't have this problem. He ought to get a
vasectomy.
Most decent human beings abide by a written contract but you will still
have
women who will weasel out in order to fake a rape, possibly claiming that
she changed their mind.
Is video taping the entire event the wave of the future? Although
degrading
and cumbersome to set up, is it legal to protect your good name in this
way
and can it be used as evidence in court?
How else can a guy protect himself from such a dangerous scam?
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On 30-Aug-2003, "Anony Mouse" <mousie@nospam.net> wrote:
2 hidden video cameras (one shows an unblocked door and the other covers
the
bed), an audio and video recording of the *entire* encounter, and using a
polyurethane condom with spermicide should provide the most protection.
They are making BW wireless video cameras small enough to be easily hidden
anywhere (pager, pen,...), just put in fresh batteries before the
encounter, capture the video/audio with a laptop or VCR, and you are all
set.
During the activity the man should encourage some dialog to further weaken
the woman's case. Imagine Kobe's case if he had audio of Faber talking
about how much she loves big black d**k and likes it rough.
Without a consent form the tape will probably be inadmissible in court,
but
the existence if the tape should deter most prosecutors. I'd post the
video
on Imesh and contaminate the jury pool. Even Gloria Aldred wouldn't take
that case.
Dexter M. Duck
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On 30 Aug 2003 08:13:17 -0700,
s_knight8 in <6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com> wrote:
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Dr. Cadell, a clinical psychologist and author, is telling her
celebrity clients to get a sexual consent form signed before they get
their mack up. And she's not kidding. She says, "Unfortunately the
world has come to something like a sexual consent form, but it's no
different from a pre-nup."
I would consult a lawyer rather then listen to some sex therapist. It doesn't
matter what a person signs, if they claim sexual assualt afterwards that paper
doesn't make you innocent. The person could also claim you made them sign it
and they did sign it in fear of harm which would automatically make the so
called contract null and void. That is my understanding of contract law, I'm
sure a lawyer can correct any of my misunderstandings.
--
Best Regards, Keith AOL IM:kilowattradio
NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
_Give SCO $699 for using Linux or the Penguin gets it._
Torvalds: _They are smoking crack._
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"Tonawanda Kardex" <firstnamelastname@komkast.nett> wrote
All you need is a safe, really.
don't both parties get a copy of the record?
Chas
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On 8/30/03 7:43 PM, in article VCOdnb4q6Pso_cyiU-KYgg@comcast.com, "Chas"
<chas@chasclements.com> contributed to the U.S. Constitution in the midst of
saying:
"Tonawanda Kardex" <firstnamelastname@komkast.nett> wrote
don't both parties get a copy of the record?
As if!
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"Anony Mouse" <mousie@nospam.net> wrote in message news:b944b.4611$sl.191620@twister.austin.rr.com...
Most decent human beings abide by a written contract but you will still have
women who will weasel out in order to fake a rape, possibly claiming that
she changed their mind.
Is video taping the entire event the wave of the future? Although degrading
and cumbersome to set up,
Video tape equipment these days is not cumbersome to set up. It's quite
compact and easy to hide. Degrading? Well, that depends on your point of
view I suppose. What is more degrading, a video tape to protect yourself, or
getting slammed by Bubba in prison after being sent there for a crime you didn't
commit.....
is it legal to protect your good name in this way
and can it be used as evidence in court?
Is self-defense legal? I sure hope it still is......
How else can a guy protect himself from such a dangerous scam?
How else? Well, the best way is not to screw around on your wife in the first
place. I will never understand guys who are married to hot women who cheat on
them. They are already hogging out at the buffet table of sex and romance but it's
*still* not enough for them for some reason.....
I had never heard of this Kobe fellow before this incident (I don't follow the NBA)
and took a lot of what I heard about him initially at face value - squeaky clean,
family man, how could a guy like that slip and do this etc. The more I hear about it
though, the more it appears like he's just another narcissistic jock that is paid too much
money, thinks he is God, and doesn't have enough plain old fashioned common
sense to save his ass.
Jack
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com>...
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Actually, all they really need to do is get consent.
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"Charles Beauchamp" <cebeauchamp@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<S9WdnX-K8eJFucyiU-KYvA@comcast.com>...
have
degrading
way
Well...there is always...maybe not actually engaging in illicit sexual
activities in the first place! Thought of that?
Who said it has to be illicit? Wives and girlfriends press rape
charges on their partners all the time.
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"Ryan" <ryan@c-zone.net> wrote in message news:<vl2d92oqm1pq58@corp.supernews.com>...
Don't commit adultery and you won't have this problem.
Bull#@($. Your wife can accuse you any time it suits her. Her word against yours.
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Tonawanda Kardex <firstnamelastname@komkast.nett> wrote in message news:<BB762E24.5FE8A%firstnamelastname@komkast.nett>
I just get videotaped depositions of both consent and the acts themselves,
so I am protected.
She'll claim you threatened her off camera, and coerced her to sign
and have sex . She'll say you threatened to kill her family.
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Son of Spam wrote:
s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0308300713.54a4c785@posting.google.com>...
Actually, all they really need to do is get consent.
No, that won't do it, they can still change their mind about consent way
after the fact.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
collardg@earthlink.net
"Saying something over and over again doesn't make it true -- unless,
of course, you're saying, 'I'm obnoxious and repetitive.'"
-- Kremben
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The Enigmatic One wrote:
In article <zQ44b.17180$Ih1.6215836@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com>,
dduck531@ameritech.net says...
Yeah, see, the problem with that is the potentially completely damning
evidence if the tape shows exactly the opposite. (And tapes that are supposed
to be destroyed sometimes end up where people don't want them.)
It wouldn't show the opposite, since presumably this is for people
who are not going to commit rape. Anybody who even thinks he's going to
commit a rape would be foolish to use a video camera.
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Anony Mouse wrote:
of
Another good idea, even better than a contract. Now to put it in a way that
doesn't spoil the mood:
"Hey sexy, look into the camera. Today is Saturday Aug. 30, 2003. We're
going to have a nice time all night, right? I can't wait to ___ and ___
you. Are you going to ___ me good tonight? Tell us how much you want it."
Time to whip out the Pre- Booty Call Agreement. (as seen throughout
the Web... )
http://www.datingfun.com/guides/etiquette/agreement.asp
The Pre-Booty Call Agreement
This pre-booty call Agreement (hereinafter referred to as The
Agreement) is entered into on this ___day of ______________, 20 __, by
____________________, (hereinafter referred to as the Participant)
between ____________________, (hereinafter referred to as the Holder of
The Agreement) and ____________________ (Participant).
This Agreement shall cover the following rules and principles for the
Participant:
1. No sleeping over!! Unless it is very good and we need to repeat it in
the morning.
2. No meeting in public except for dinner or drinks before the events of
the evening.
3. No calls before 9 pm. We dont have anything to talk about.
4. None of that lovemaking stuff, only mind-blowing sex allowed.
5. No emotional discussions!! i.e. where are we heading with this? Do
you love me? The answer is no, so dont even ask.
6. No plans made in advance. That is why you are called the backup.
Unless you are from out-of-town, then its only a one-time advanced
arrangement.
7. All gifts accepted- money is always good.
8. No baby talk- however, dirty talk is encouraged.
9. No asking for comparisons to former lovers its really none of your
damn business.
10. No calling each other friends with privileges. We are not friends,
just sex buddies.
11. Calling out the wrong name during sex is OK. Dont be offended, you
mean no less to me than you did before.
12. No extra clothing!! I dont want your ass leaving anything behind
when you leave.
13. No falling asleep right after sex!! Its over so get your ass up and
go home.
14. Dont be offended if I dont ask if you enjoyed it. I dont care!!
15. You cannot borrow my car for any reason.
16. If anyone of the opposite sex asks who you are, the standard
response will be My roommates girlfriend/boyfriend.
17. Doggie style preferred. Just hit it hard and right or get the Hell
out! (Reason: The less eye contact the better. I dont want to look at
you.)
18. We are to hook up absolutely whenever the mood strikes me, so stop
calling!
19. Bring your own drinkI am not your liquor store.
20. No phone use, please! I dont want anyone calling back looking for
your ass.
*Extra tip for successful booty calls: The holder of the Agreement may
only alter the aforementioned rules. If the other party attempts to
change or alter any terms of the Agreement, it will automatically become
null and void. The Participant will then be removed from the Possible
Future Relationship List and given minimal Booty Call privileges, and
cut off from any communications unless first initiated by the holder of
this Agreement. If further violations of the Agreement occur the
Participant will be deleted from phone memory, email list, and blocked
from all communications until the Participants silly ass understands
the rules.
Participant: Holder of the Agreement:
Signature: ____________________ Signature: ____________________
Date: ____________________ Date: ____________________
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nonsensname wrote:
She explains, "It says by initialing this, I
agree to engage in all or some of the following acts and you check
each of the boxes. There's sexual fondling, petting, kissing, sexual
intercourse, there's oral copulation either mutual or unilateral, and
the last box is other so you can specify whatever you want."
"Yo baby, dont forget to check the anal penetration box."
To imagine this situation is absurd.
Especially when the athlete has to interupt because he forgot what hes
allowed to do and what not.
The well-prepared individual will replace the overhead mirror with a
projection of the contract on the ceiling over the bed so that both
parties can refer to it at a moment's notice.
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On 30 Aug 2003, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
http://celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/03/08/29a.html
The case of Kobe Bryant is changing the rules. Other celebrities have
to be wondering how they can protect themselves from charges of sexual
misconduct, and Dr. Ava Cadell, sex therapist to the stars, says she
has a unique answer.
She says, "I would advise a client that has a lot to lose, money,
reputation, even his family if he's being unfaithful, to use a sexual
consent form to protect himself against any future lawsuits."
Great idea! Next time I rape a woman I'll put a gun to her head
and force her to sign one of these forms first. That'll work!
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On 30 Aug 2003, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
Great idea! Next time I rape a woman I'll put a gun to her head
and force her to sign one of these forms first. That'll work!
ALERT - the true sign ("RtS Sock Man") of another female in disguise!!
Unlike normal men and women who sign binding contracts, the feminist will
try to get out of a deal by making one bogus accusation on top of another.
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