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post fairly regularly to alt.religion.scientology, and a friend suggested that I post this to legal ngs. If by chance a lawyer or anyone has a professional interest in my situation, please contact me privately by e-mail. gerry@gerryarmstrong.org. Webbed at: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/scn-v-armstrong-cases.html I have been asked a number of times about the signing away of basic human rights, and the subject just came up again on a.r.s. in specific reference to the Scientology cult's "breach of contract" cases against me. Because the rights that Scientology claims they contracted away are so many and so basic, because the subject "contract" involves so many individuals and entities, because it is possible to examine its effects, including the cult's efforts to enforce it, over an almost seventeen year period, and because there is such a wealth of documentation of the related judicial and extra-judicial events, these cases provide in fact a very useful paradigm for studying that subject. [Quote] On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:09:15 +0200, Tilman Hausherr <tilman@berlin.snafu.de> wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:35:37 -0500, "JB@nowhere" <mblackjac1@donteventhinkaboutit,cox.net> wrote in <hUkeb.8913$Rd4.7934@fed1read07>: Yes. The Gerry Armstrong cases showed that you can.
[End Quote] Not exactly. With or without the Gerry Armstrong cases, it is obvious that anyone *can* "sign away basic human rights." The real question is whether or not such a signing away of basic human rights is lawfully *judicially* enforceable. The fact that Scientology obtained a court order in California that enforces its "contract" that strips me of my basic human rights does not mean that such an order is lawful. http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a4/injunction-csi-v-armstrong.html Indeed, the U.S. Constitution, all the U.S. statutes and case law that I have read, as well as all logic, dictate that it is not lawful for a court in the U.S. to enforce a "contract' that strips a person of the basic human rights that Scientology claims it has successfully stripped from me. The final judicial outcome of the cases may very well be a ruling that such a "contract" is not lawful, and that judicial enforcement is therefore not permissible lawfully. I believe that rather than permit such an outcome, the Miscavige regime would opt for my assassination. I have had legal opinions here in Germany stating that the basic human rights that Scientology and Scientologists claim that they have stripped from me in the U.S. may not be stripped from a person lawfully using the German judicial system. That is certainly why the cultists have not tried to use the courts here to silence me and to have me jailed for my non-silence. I have also had legal opinions stating that what the cult is doing in the U.S. to strip me of my basic human rights is not lawful there as well. I am proceeding in the latest Scientology lawsuit http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a7/complaint-cv021632.html and continuing to refuse to be stripped of those rights because I believe, and have solid legal grounds for that belief, that the orders the cult obtained, that purport to strip me of those rights, are unlawful. The unlawful, human rights-destroying conditions of Scientology's "contract" and the unlawful efforts to enforce them are increasingly relevant internationally because of the cultists' big push during the last few years to portray and position themselves as great "human rights" defenders and champions. The Armstrong cases demonstrate beyond any argument that in truth the cultists are all suppressors and destroyers of human rights, and that their whole "human rights" campaign is a fraud, so these cases have to be a major concern to them. See, e.g., my response to the cult's recent opening of its new "human rights office" in Brussels, and its new "Proclamation on Religion, Human Rights and Society." http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/armstrong-ltr-2003-09-28-brussels.html Scientology paid me to dismiss my lawsuit against the cult for fraud, for years of abuse inside, and for years of fair game attacks after leaving. The cult did not pay me, even though they later say they did, to be their defenseless punching bag, and to forfeit my basic human rights. Scientology obtained my signature on its "contract," which they say strips me of my basic rights, by fraud and threat. My position, supported by the facts, law and logic, is that the basic human rights, which the cult says it stripped from me by contract, cannot lawfully be contracted away; or again, rather, that a U.S. court cannot lawfully enforce such contractual conditions. And further, that what the cult did to get my signature on its unlawful contract was unlawful. http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/mutual-release-1986.html http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/c420153-mutual-release.pdf http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/mutual-release-1986-de.html No one -- not the Marin County judges, not the cult's lawyers, not any other lawyer, not a Scientologist, not a goon squadder, not any U.S. federal official -- has ever presented a cogent argument based on U.S. law, or international law, or logic, to convince me, or even try to convince me, that what the cult has done, and the court in the cult's service has done, to strip me of my basic human rights, is lawful. The Marin County judge based his injunction that stripped me of my Constitutional defenses, and consequently my human rights, on a single California case, ITT Telecom Products Corp. v. Dooley (1989) 214 Cal.App.3d 307, 262 Cal.Rptr. 773 http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a4/appeal/262cal.rptr.773.html The Marin judge stated in his grant of summary adjudication, by which he eliminated all my Constitutional defenses: [Quote] First Amendment: First Amendment rights may be waived by contract. (See ITT Telecom Products Corp. v. Dooley (1989) 214 Cal.App.3d 307, 319.) [End Quote] Dooley actually states, almost as an aside, since Dooley was apparently not asserting freedom of speech as a defense, but the litigant's privilege: [Quote] Moreover, it is possible to waive even First Amendment free speech rights by contract. [End Quote] Note that Dooley says nothing about First Amendment *religious* rights, and that the Marin judge dropped Dooley's "free speech" qualifier in his order in order to dispose of my religious defenses. See, e.g., for my "religious defenses" then before the Marin judge, my separate statement of disputed and undisputed facts in opposition to Scientology's motion for summary adjudication of the twentieth cause of action of the se
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Gerry Armstrong wrote:
I post fairly regularly to alt.religion.scientology, and a friend suggested that I post this to legal ngs. If by chance a lawyer or anyone has a professional interest in my situation, please contact me privately by e-mail. gerry@gerryarmstrong.org. Webbed at: http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/writings/scn-v-armstrong-cases.html
For what it's worth, IF the release at http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/mutual-release-1986.html was properly executed by the parties, it seems valid in the absence of fraud. Now, I'm not a fan of the CoS, but if you signed it, and they paid the agreement amount, a non-suit contract is enforceable -- otherwise, how could ANY out-of-court settlement be valid. I see nothing about basic human rights in that agreement. Paragraph 7(H), to the extent that it requires you to try to avoid a valid subpoena, is probably void as being contrary to public policy. Paragraph 7(L) may be impossible in fact after you die -- this agreement probably does not bind your estate, so the referred artwork would have to be disclosed at that time. Paragraph 10, in regard police agencies, is probably void. Still no basic human rights.
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"Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F8AD017.4F3AC049@sprintmail.com>...
Gerry Armstrong wrote: For what it's worth, IF the release at http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/legal/a1/mutual-release-1986.html was properly executed by the parties, it seems valid in the absence of fraud.
Or duress. Or if it violated public policy. If it obstructed justice. Or if it stripped from me rights that cannot be lawfully taken from me by "contract;" e.g., freedom of religion, due process. Certainly the way the cult is interpreting the "contract" and attempting to enforce it would have to be considered, since 17 years of those interpretations and enforcement efforts are now available.
Now, I'm not a fan of the CoS, but if you signed it, and they paid the agreement amount, a non-suit contract is enforceable -- otherwise, how could ANY out-of-court settlement be valid.
Well, it could be fair, not have an unlawful purpose, not be obtained by fraud or duress, and not unnecessarily violate civil/human rights.
I see nothing about basic human rights in that agreement. Paragraph 7(H), to the extent that it requires you to try to avoid a valid subpoena, is probably void as being contrary to public policy. Paragraph 7(L) may be impossible in fact after you die -- this agreement probably does not bind your estate, so the referred artwork would have to be disclosed at that time. Paragraph 10, in regard police agencies, is probably void. Still no basic human rights.
See these articles from the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights." http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance. Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers. Article 20. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association. And these I suppose. Article 8. Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law. Article 29. (1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible. (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society. (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. Article 30. Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein. Gerry Armstrong c/o Dialog Zentrum Berlin Heimat 27 D-14165 Berlin-Zehlendorf Germany Tel: +49 (0) 30-84723958 Fax: +49 (0) 1212-5-205-27-015 http://www.gerryarmstrong.org gerry@gerryarmstrong.org
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Gerry Armstrong wrote:
"Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F8AD017.4F3AC049@sprintmail.com>... Or duress. Or if it violated public policy. If it obstructed justice. Or if it stripped from me rights that cannot be lawfully taken from me by "contract;" e.g., freedom of religion, due process.
WHAT RIGHTS? I believe I asked you that already. I see nothing about basic human rights in that agreement. Paragraph 7(H), to the extent that it requires you to try to avoid a valid subpoena, is probably void as being contrary to public policy. Paragraph 7(L) may be impossible in fact after you die -- this agreement probably does not bind your estate, so the referred artwork would have to be disclosed at that time. Paragraph 10, in regard police agencies, is probably void. Still no basic human rights.
See these articles from the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights." http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
Not recognized by the US, but to continue....
Article 18. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
Not compromised, except as would be done in any private settlement, particularly those related to trade secrets.
Article 19. Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Ditto.
Article 20. (1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association. (2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Not compromised or abrogated.
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