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"=> Vox Populi ©"
12/3/2003 11:29:10 PM


U.S. Arab Population Surging, Census Report Says
Wednesday, December 03, 2003
AP
WASHINGTON - The Arab population in the United States has nearly doubled in the
past two decades, according to the Census Bureau's first report on the group.
Experts cited liberalized U.S. immigration laws and unrest in the Middle East
(search) that led many people to come to America.
The bureau counted nearly 1.2 million Arabs in the United States in 2000,
compared with 860,000 in 1990 and 610,000 in 1980. About 60 percent trace their
ancestry to three countries: Lebanon (search), Syria and Egypt.
The census report stops at 2000, so there is no data to measure the impact of
the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But tighter immigration procedures imposed after
then have reduced the flow of Arabs to the United States.
While earlier Arab immigrants came from countries with large Christian
populations, newer arrivals come from heavily Muslim countries such as Iraq and
Yemen (search).
"Immigrants from the Arab world come for the same reason all immigrants come --
economic opportunity, opportunities to have an education, to develop a
professional career," said Helen Samhan, executive director of the Arab American
Institute Foundation, a research group.
Samhan said the lifting of U.S. immigration quotas in the 1960s opened the door
to people from Arab countries and many took advantage during the 1980s and
1990s, with a large number coming from nations such as Lebanon and Iraq where
there were wars.
Almost half of the Arabs in the United States live in five states -- California
(190,890), New York (120,370), Michigan (115,284), New Jersey (71,770) and
Florida (77,461).
"It would be better to come to America than Europe or Canada," said Zak Trad,
33, of Anaheim, Calif., who came from Lebanon three years ago. "It's the largest
Arab community not in an Arab country. I didn't think I would be a stranger
here."
New York City, the first stop for millions of immigrants for more than a
century, had the largest Arab population among U.S. cities, 69,985. The Detroit
suburb of Dearborn, Mich., where many Arabs first settled to work in the
automobile industry, was next at 29,181.
Sterling Heights, Mich., was the city with the largest percentage of
Arab-Americans, 3.7 percent, followed by Jersey City, N.J., with 2.8 percent.
Dearborn's population is about 30 percent Arab but it was not ranked because the
Census Bureau only counted cities with at least 100,000 residents; Dearborn has
about 98,000.
The Census Bureau asked those who received the long version of their decennial
questionnaire to list their ancestry. The form was sent to about one-sixth of
all households.
Arab-Americans say their population is larger than that reported by the Census
Bureau, but many are reluctant to fill out government forms because they came
from countries with oppressive regimes.
The Arab American Institute Foundation said that just over 15,000 visas were
issued to immigrants from Arab countries in 2002, compared with more than 21,000
in 2001.
"The fact that immigration procedures and visa applications have been so tightly
screened is going to slow down the volume of new immigrants," Samhan said. "The
scrutiny that will be placed on immigrants from Arab and Muslim countries is
going to be even greater than other places."
The backlash that occurred against Arab Americans following Sept. 11 served to
draw them closer and get more involved in politics. The concentration of
Arab-Americans in a few key election states, particularly Michigan, also has
boosted their political influence.
In October, seven of the eight Democratic presidential candidates attended the
Arab American Institute's national leadership conference in Dearborn, as did the
heads of the Democratic and Republican parties.
"These days, anything that moves votes one way or another by the thousands can
have an impact of seismic proportions," said pollster John Zogby, himself an
Arab-American.
 
 
"Father Ted"
12/4/2003 11:19:08 AM


just like rats and cockroaches - vermin


"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
news:2vAzb.97$Fa7.88298@news.uswest.net...

U.S. Arab Population Surging, Census Report Says
Wednesday, December 03, 2003
AP
WASHINGTON - The Arab population in the United States has nearly doubled
in the
past two decades, according to the Census Bureau's first report on the
group.
Experts cited liberalized U.S. immigration laws and unrest in the Middle
East
(search) that led many people to come to America.
The bureau counted nearly 1.2 million Arabs in the United States in 2000,
compared with 860,000 in 1990 and 610,000 in 1980. About 60 percent trace
their
ancestry to three countries: Lebanon (search), Syria and Egypt.
The census report stops at 2000, so there is no data to measure the impact
of
the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But tighter immigration procedures imposed
after
then have reduced the flow of Arabs to the United States.
While earlier Arab immigrants came from countries with large Christian
populations, newer arrivals come from heavily Muslim countries such as
Iraq and
Yemen (search).
"Immigrants from the Arab world come for the same reason all immigrants
come --
economic opportunity, opportunities to have an education, to develop a
professional career," said Helen Samhan, executive director of the Arab
American
Institute Foundation, a research group.
Samhan said the lifting of U.S. immigration quotas in the 1960s opened the
door
to people from Arab countries and many took advantage during the 1980s and
1990s, with a large number coming from nations such as Lebanon and Iraq
where
there were wars.
Almost half of the Arabs in the United States live in five states --
California
(190,890), New York (120,370), Michigan (115,284), New Jersey (71,770) and
Florida (77,461).
"It would be better to come to America than Europe or Canada," said Zak
Trad,
33, of Anaheim, Calif., who came from Lebanon three years ago. "It's the
largest
Arab community not in an Arab country. I didn't think I would be a
stranger
here."
New York City, the first stop for millions of immigrants for more than a
century, had the largest Arab population among U.S. cities, 69,985. The
Detroit
suburb of Dearborn, Mich., where many Arabs first settled to work in the
automobile industry, was next at 29,181.
Sterling Heights, Mich., was the city with the largest percentage of
Arab-Americans, 3.7 percent, followed by Jersey City, N.J., with 2.8
percent.
Dearborn's population is about 30 percent Arab but it was not ranked
because the
Census Bureau only counted cities with at least 100,000 residents;
Dearborn has
about 98,000.
The Census Bureau asked those who received the long version of their
decennial
questionnaire to list their ancestry. The form was sent to about one-sixth
of
all households.
Arab-Americans say their population is larger than that reported by the
Census
Bureau, but many are reluctant to fill out government forms because they
came
from countries with oppressive regimes.
The Arab American Institute Foundation said that just over 15,000 visas
were
issued to immigrants from Arab countries in 2002, compared with more than
21,000
in 2001.
"The fact that immigration procedures and visa applications have been so
tightly
screened is going to slow down the volume of new immigrants," Samhan said.
"The
scrutiny that will be placed on immigrants from Arab and Muslim countries
is
going to be even greater than other places."
The backlash that occurred against Arab Americans following Sept. 11
served to
draw them closer and get more involved in politics. The concentration of
Arab-Americans in a few key election states, particularly Michigan, also
has
boosted their political influence.
In October, seven of the eight Democratic presidential candidates attended
the
Arab American Institute's national leadership conference in Dearborn, as
did the
heads of the Democratic and Republican parties.
"These days, anything that moves votes one way or another by the thousands
can
have an impact of seismic proportions," said pollster John Zogby, himself
an
Arab-American.
 
 
wf3h@ptnosm.com (Bob)
12/4/2003 12:00:39 PM


On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 23:29:10 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
wrote:
U.S. Arab Population Surging, Census Report Says
Wednesday, December 03, 2003
AP
WASHINGTON - The Arab population in the United States has nearly doubled in the
past two decades, according to the Census Bureau's first report on the group.
Experts cited liberalized U.S. immigration laws and unrest in the Middle East
(search) that led many people to come to America.
The bureau counted nearly 1.2 million Arabs in the United States in 2000,
compared with 860,000 in 1990 and 610,000 in 1980. About 60 percent trace their
ancestry to three countries: Lebanon (search), Syria and Egypt.
The census report stops at 2000, so there is no data to measure the impact of
the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But tighter immigration procedures imposed after
then have reduced the flow of Arabs to the United States.
While earlier Arab immigrants came from countries with large Christian
populations, newer arrivals come from heavily Muslim countries such as Iraq and
Yemen (search).
"Immigrants from the Arab world come for the same reason all immigrants come --
economic opportunity, opportunities to have an education, to develop a
professional career," said Helen Samhan, executive director of the Arab American
Institute Foundation, a research group.
"It would be better to come to America than Europe or Canada," said Zak Trad,
33, of Anaheim, Calif., who came from Lebanon three years ago. "It's the largest
Arab community not in an Arab country. I didn't think I would be a stranger
here."
now let me get this straight...
vox says the world hates us..wants us destroyed...
proof??
why...millions of arabs come here for freedom and to grow as people
golly. vox, as always, is a font of clear thinking.
---------------------------
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field
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wf3h@ptnosm.com (Bob)
12/4/2003 12:00:57 PM


On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:19:08 +0000 (UTC), "Father Ted" <a@a.com> wrote:
just like rats and cockroaches - vermin
ridiculous.
---------------------------
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field
check my blog at:
http://www.bobview.blogspot.com/
 
 
AnonMoos
12/4/2003 8:39:02 AM


"=> Vox Asinorum " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
The bureau counted nearly 1.2 million Arabs in the United States in
2000, compared with 860,000 in 1990 and 610,000 in 1980.
Big deal -- that's less than one-half of one percent of the overall
population of the U.S., and a large proportion of these Arabs are
Christians. And those who have been in this country for a number of
years, have developed community ties, have U.S. citizenship, and are
able to vote are even more likely to be Christians.
--
SAUDIA OMNIS IN PARTES TRES DIVIDENDA EST! Free Arabia by
splitting the Saudi tyranny into its three natural parts:
Hejaz-alHarameyn, Nejd-Wahhabistan, and Gulf-Petrolia.
Murderers are not Martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
 
 
"=> Vox Populi ©"
12/4/2003 10:16:56 AM


Father Ted wrote:
just like rats and cockroaches - vermin
Well, being cockroaches have survived, intact, for
MILLIONS of years, while other species have come
and gone into extinction, and modern man has only
been around for tiny fraction of that ... you might take
head ... sucker.


"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
news:2vAzb.97$Fa7.88298@news.uswest.net...

 
 
"=> Vox Populi ©"
12/4/2003 10:20:08 AM


AnonMoos wrote:
"=> Vox Asinorum " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
Big deal -- that's less than one-half of one percent of the overall
population of the U.S.,
Yeah, don't worry, they won't increase ... nor will the hispanics ...
and a large proportion of these Arabs are
Christians.
Ah yes, the "good" arabs, eh?
And those who have been in this country for a number of
years, have developed community ties,
have U.S. citizenship, and are
able to vote
Yep, Timothy McVeigh had all of those ...even served in
the U$ Military as a Soldier's Soldier.
are even more likely to be Christians.
Wishful thinking on your part ...loser.
--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
 
 
AnonMoos
12/4/2003 4:15:30 PM


"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
AnonMoos wrote:
Yeah, don't worry, they won't increase ... nor will the hispanics
Whatever -- the Arabs won't be dramatically increasing their
proportion of the U.S. population any time soon.
and a large proportion of these Arabs are Christians.
Ah yes, the "good" arabs, eh?
I'll leave the snap superficial value judgements up to you, Vox
Asinorum, but the Christian Arabs are less likely to be interested in
making long-term radical changes to the nature of U.S. society -- and
if the Christians send donations to terrorists abroad, it's likely to
be for terrorism narrowly targeted toward limited political goals (and
not the general Bin-Laden "Conflict between Civilizations" type of
terrorism, as is more likely to be the case with Muslims).
And those who have been in this country for a number of years, have
developed community ties, have U.S. citizenship, and are able to
vote are even more likely to be Christians.
Wishful thinking on your part ...loser.
Nope, simple demographics ...ignoramus. Christian "Syrians" (i.e.
from the general Lebanon-Syria-Israel region) started immigrating to
this country over a hundred years ago, while Muslim Arabs didn't start
immigrating to this country in any large numbers until the late
1960's.
Yep, Timothy McVeigh had all of those
Whatever -- and "In 1492 Columbus Sailed the Ocean Blue".
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
One of your big heroes, Vox Asinorum?
--
The non-Dhimmi affirmation (9:29): لن نعطى
الجزية ولسنا
صاغرين (٢٩ We will fight for
our freedom! Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
 
 
"Kevin"
12/4/2003 4:47:40 PM


First of all Vox, the data is form 1980 to 2000. So it is not correct to
say that it "is" surging. It is correct to say that it did surge.
Second: Of course. Why would any sane person want to live in those god
forsaken countries that are mostly ruled by religeous and tribal leaders for
their own benefit and power. Tribal leaders!? It is 2003 you morons.
Tribes don't mean #@($. Get with it.


"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
news:2vAzb.97$Fa7.88298@news.uswest.net...

U.S. Arab Population Surging, Census Report Says
Wednesday, December 03, 2003
AP
WASHINGTON - The Arab population in the United States has nearly doubled
in the
past two decades, according to the Census Bureau's first report on the
group.
Experts cited liberalized U.S. immigration laws and unrest in the Middle
East
(search) that led many people to come to America.
The bureau counted nearly 1.2 million Arabs in the United States in 2000,
compared with 860,000 in 1990 and 610,000 in 1980. About 60 percent trace
their
ancestry to three countries: Lebanon (search), Syria and Egypt.
The census report stops at 2000, so there is no data to measure the impact
of
the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But tighter immigration procedures imposed
after
then have reduced the flow of Arabs to the United States.
While earlier Arab immigrants came from countries with large Christian
populations, newer arrivals come from heavily Muslim countries such as
Iraq and
Yemen (search).
"Immigrants from the Arab world come for the same reason all immigrants
come --
economic opportunity, opportunities to have an education, to develop a
professional career," said Helen Samhan, executive director of the Arab
American
Institute Foundation, a research group.
Samhan said the lifting of U.S. immigration quotas in the 1960s opened the
door
to people from Arab countries and many took advantage during the 1980s and
1990s, with a large number coming from nations such as Lebanon and Iraq
where
there were wars.
Almost half of the Arabs in the United States live in five states --
California
(190,890), New York (120,370), Michigan (115,284), New Jersey (71,770) and
Florida (77,461).
"It would be better to come to America than Europe or Canada," said Zak
Trad,
33, of Anaheim, Calif., who came from Lebanon three years ago. "It's the
largest
Arab community not in an Arab country. I didn't think I would be a
stranger
here."
New York City, the first stop for millions of immigrants for more than a
century, had the largest Arab population among U.S. cities, 69,985. The
Detroit
suburb of Dearborn, Mich., where many Arabs first settled to work in the
automobile industry, was next at 29,181.
Sterling Heights, Mich., was the city with the largest percentage of
Arab-Americans, 3.7 percent, followed by Jersey City, N.J., with 2.8
percent.
Dearborn's population is about 30 percent Arab but it was not ranked
because the
Census Bureau only counted cities with at least 100,000 residents;
Dearborn has
about 98,000.
The Census Bureau asked those who received the long version of their
decennial
questionnaire to list their ancestry. The form was sent to about one-sixth
of
all households.
Arab-Americans say their population is larger than that reported by the
Census
Bureau, but many are reluctant to fill out government forms because they
came
from countries with oppressive regimes.
The Arab American Institute Foundation said that just over 15,000 visas
were
issued to immigrants from Arab countries in 2002, compared with more than
21,000
in 2001.
"The fact that immigration procedures and visa applications have been so
tightly
screened is going to slow down the volume of new immigrants," Samhan said.
"The
scrutiny that will be placed on immigrants from Arab and Muslim countries
is
going to be even greater than other places."
The backlash that occurred against Arab Americans following Sept. 11
served to
draw them closer and get more involved in politics. The concentration of
Arab-Americans in a few key election states, particularly Michigan, also
has
boosted their political influence.
In October, seven of the eight Democratic presidential candidates attended
the
Arab American Institute's national leadership conference in Dearborn, as
did the
heads of the Democratic and Republican parties.
"These days, anything that moves votes one way or another by the thousands
can
have an impact of seismic proportions," said pollster John Zogby, himself
an
Arab-American.
 
 
"=> Vox Populi ©"
12/5/2003 10:46:50 AM


AnonMoos wrote:
"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
Whatever -- the Arabs won't be dramatically increasing their
proportion of the U.S. population any time soon.
and a large proportion of these Arabs are Christians.
I'll leave the snap superficial value judgements up to you, Vox
Asinorum, but the Christian Arabs are less likely to be interested in
making long-term radical changes to the nature of U.S. society -- and
if the Christians send donations to terrorists abroad, it's likely to
be for terrorism narrowly targeted toward limited political goals (and
not the general Bin-Laden "Conflict between Civilizations" type of
terrorism, as is more likely to be the case with Muslims).
Whatever, your bigotry is showing again.
And those who have been in this country for a number of years, have
developed community ties, have U.S. citizenship, and are able to
vote are even more likely to be Christians.
Nope, simple demographics ...ignoramus. Christian "Syrians" (i.e.
from the general Lebanon-Syria-Israel region) started immigrating to
this country over a hundred years ago, while Muslim Arabs didn't start
immigrating to this country in any large numbers until the late
1960's.
Whatever, ain't got sweet @$#* all to do with the topic under discussion.
Whatever -- and "In 1492 Columbus Sailed the Ocean Blue".
One of your big heroes, Vox Asinorum?
Whatever, you continue to deny the obvious similarities.
--
"Either the world will be ruled according to the ideas of our
modern democracy, or the world will be dominated according
to the natural law of force; in the latter case the people of
brute force will be victorious."
G.W. Bush or Adolf Hitler ?
 
 
"=> Vox Populi ©"
12/5/2003 10:49:16 AM


evin wrote:
First of all Vox, the data is form 1980 to 2000. So it is not
correct to say that it "is" surging. It is correct to say that it
did surge.
First of all Kevin, take it up with Associated Press, it's their
story and their headline.
Second: Of course. Why would any sane person want to live in those
god forsaken countries that are mostly ruled by religeous and tribal
leaders for their own benefit and power.
Especially after the U$$A gets done exploiting them, eh?
1948 - PRESENT
AMERICAN/ISRAELI STATE TERRORISM OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE
Estimated civilian deaths: 100,000 Palestinian people
From the very beginning of the Zionist State of Israel in 1948, One of the
earliest and most notorious incidents of Israeli terrorism was the Deir
Yassin massacre in April, 1948. 250 Palestinian men, women and children were
murdered in cold blood by Menachem Begin's Zionist "Irgun" group as it went
from house to house seeking to drive all Palestinians out of their ancient
homeland. It hasn't gotten any better since then.
Besides murdering women and children, Israelis routinely torture Palestinian
prisoners in jail. And almost all of it has been kept hidden by the
mainstream American mass-media for 55 years.
Just to give you another example of who the Israelis really are: in 1946,
Menachem Begin's terrorist organization blew up the King David Hotel in
Jerusalem, murdering British nurses, in order to drive the British out of
Palestine. Israeli society later rewarded Menachem Begin by electing him
Prime Minister.
The United States government gives billions of your tax dollars to the
Israelis every year. And the U.S. government never pays people to do things
it doesn't want done. Israeli state terrorism is essentially American state
terrorism.
1953 - PRESENT
AMERICAN-BACKED GENOCIDE OF THE GUATEMALAN PEOPLE
Estimated civilian deaths: over 200,000 people
From Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
by William Blum:
A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive
government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of military-government
death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions and unimaginable
cruelty, totaling more than 200,000 victims - indisputably one of the most
inhumane chapters of the 20th century.
The justification for the coup that has been put forth over the years is
that Guatemala had been on the verge of the proverbial Soviet takeover. In
actuality, the Russians had so little interest in the country that it didn't
even maintain diplomatic relations. The real problem was that Arbenz had
taken over some of the uncultivated land of the US firm, United Fruit
Company [Chiquita bananas], which had extremely close ties to the American
power elite.
Moreover, in the eyes of Washington, there was the danger of Guatemala's
social-democracy model spreading to other countries in Latin America.
Despite a 1996 "peace" accord between the government and rebels, respect for
human rights remains as only a concept in Guatemala; death squads continue
to operate with a significant measure of impunity against union activists
and other dissidents; torture still rears its ugly head; the lower classes
are as wretched as ever; the military endures as a formidable institution;
the US continues to arm and train the Guatemalan military and carry out
exercises with it; and key provisions of the peace accord concerning
military reform have not been carried out.
1955 - 1973
AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE
Estimated total civilian deaths: 1,000,000 - 2,000,000 people
Prince Sihanouk was yet another leader who did not fancy being an American
client. After many years of hostility toward his regime, including
assassination plots and the infamous Nixon/Kissinger secret "carpet
bombings" of 1969-70, Washington finally overthrew Sihanouk in a coup in
1970. This was all that was needed to impel Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge
forces to enter the fray. Five years later, they took power. But the years
of American bombing had caused Cambodia's traditional economy to vanish. Theold Cambodia had been destroyed forever.
Incredibly, the Khmer Rouge were to inflict even greater misery upon this
unhappy land. And to multiply the irony, the United States supported Pol Pot
and the Khmer Rouge after their subsequent defeat by the Vietnamese.
1957 - 1973
AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE LAOTIAN PEOPLE
Estimated total civilian deaths: over 500,000 people
The Laotian left, led by the Pathet Lao, tried to effect social change
peacefully, making significant electoral gains and taking part in coalition
governments. But the United States would have none of that.
The CIA and the State Department, through force, bribery and other
pressures, engineered coups in 1958, 1959 and 1960. Eventually, the only
option left for the Pathet Lao was armed force.
The CIA created its famous "Arme Clandestine" - totaling 30,000, from every
corner of Asia - to do battle, while the US Air Force, between 1965 and
1973, rained down more than two million tons of bombs upon the people of
Laos, many of whom were forced to live in caves for years in a desperate
attempt to escape the monsters falling from the sky.
After hundreds of thousands had been killed, many more maimed, and countless
bombed villages with hardly stone standing upon stone, the Pathet Lao took
control of the country, following on the heels of events in Vietnam.
MID-1950S, 1970-71
AMERICAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS ON THE ELECTED LEADER OF COSTA RICA
From Rogue State
by William Blum:
To liberal American political leaders, President Jose Figueres was the
quintessential "liberal democrat", the kind of statesman they liked to
think, and liked the world to think, was the natural partner of US foreign
policy rather than the military dictators who somehow kept popping up as
allies.
Yet the United States tried to overthrow Figueres (in the 1950s, and perhaps
also in the 1970s, when he was again president), and tried to assassinate
him twice. The reasons? Figueres was not tough enough on the left, led Costa
Rica to become the first country in Central America to establish diplomatic
relations with the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, and on occasion
questioned American foreign policy, like the Bay of Pigs invasion.
1959 - PRESENT
AMERICAN SUBVERSION AND STATE TERRORISM OF THE CUBAN PEOPLE
From Killing Hope
by William Blum:
Fidel Castro came to power at the beginning of 1959. A U.S. National
Security Council meeting of March 10, 1959 included on its agenda the
feasibility of bringing "another government to power in Cuba." There
followed 40 years of terrorist attacks, bombings, full-scale military
invasion, sanctions, embargoes, isolation, assassinations...Cuba had carried
out The Unforgivable Revolution, a very serious threat of setting a "good
example" in Latin America.
The saddest part of this is that
 
 
"The Holy Kafir"
12/5/2003 1:12:51 PM




"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
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AnonMoos wrote:
Whatever, your bigotry is showing again.
Look who's talking.
Whatever, ain't got sweet @$#* all to do with the topic under discussion.
What a hypocrite., This PoxMark ass hole changes the subject all the time.
What an ass.
Whatever, you continue to deny the obvious similarities.
--
"Either the world will be ruled according to the ideas of our
modern democracy, or the world will be dominated according
to the natural law of force; in the latter case the people of
brute force will be victorious."
G.W. Bush or Adolf
Hitler ?
 
 
"The Holy Kafir"
12/5/2003 5:04:14 PM




"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
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Kevin wrote:
First of all Kevin, take it up with Associated Press, it's their
story and their headline.
You posted it mother @$#*er, you deal with it.
Stupid ass, PoxMark.
Especially after the U$$A gets done exploiting them, eh?
1948 - PRESENT
AMERICAN/ISRAELI STATE TERRORISM OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE
Estimated civilian deaths: 100,000 Palestinian people
From the very beginning of the Zionist State of Israel in 1948, One of the
earliest and most notorious incidents of Israeli terrorism was the Deir
Yassin massacre in April, 1948. 250 Palestinian men, women and children
were
murdered in cold blood by Menachem Begin's Zionist "Irgun" group as it
went
from house to house seeking to drive all Palestinians out of their ancient
homeland. It hasn't gotten any better since then.
Besides murdering women and children, Israelis routinely torture
Palestinian
prisoners in jail. And almost all of it has been kept hidden by the
mainstream American mass-media for 55 years.
Just to give you another example of who the Israelis really are: in 1946,
Menachem Begin's terrorist organization blew up the King David Hotel in
Jerusalem, murdering British nurses, in order to drive the British out of
Palestine. Israeli society later rewarded Menachem Begin by electing him
Prime Minister.
The United States government gives billions of your tax dollars to the
Israelis every year. And the U.S. government never pays people to do
things
it doesn't want done. Israeli state terrorism is essentially American
state
terrorism.
1953 - PRESENT
AMERICAN-BACKED GENOCIDE OF THE GUATEMALAN PEOPLE
Estimated civilian deaths: over 200,000 people
From Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
by William Blum:
A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive
government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of military-government
death squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions and unimaginable
cruelty, totaling more than 200,000 victims - indisputably one of the most
inhumane chapters of the 20th century.
The justification for the coup that has been put forth over the years is
that Guatemala had been on the verge of the proverbial Soviet takeover. In
actuality, the Russians had so little interest in the country that it
didn't
even maintain diplomatic relations. The real problem was that Arbenz had
taken over some of the uncultivated land of the US firm, United Fruit
Company [Chiquita bananas], which had extremely close ties to the American
power elite.
Moreover, in the eyes of Washington, there was the danger of Guatemala's
social-democracy model spreading to other countries in Latin America.
Despite a 1996 "peace" accord between the government and rebels, respect
for
human rights remains as only a concept in Guatemala; death squads continue
to operate with a significant measure of impunity against union activists
and other dissidents; torture still rears its ugly head; the lower classes
are as wretched as ever; the military endures as a formidable institution;
the US continues to arm and train the Guatemalan military and carry out
exercises with it; and key provisions of the peace accord concerning
military reform have not been carried out.
1955 - 1973
AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE
Estimated total civilian deaths: 1,000,000 - 2,000,000 people
Prince Sihanouk was yet another leader who did not fancy being an American
client. After many years of hostility toward his regime, including> assassination plots and the infamous Nixon/Kissinger secret "carpet
bombings" of 1969-70, Washington finally overthrew Sihanouk in a coup in
1970. This was all that was needed to impel Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge
forces to enter the fray. Five years later, they took power. But the years
of American bombing had caused Cambodia's traditional economy to vanish.
The
old Cambodia had been destroyed forever.
Incredibly, the Khmer Rouge were to inflict even greater misery upon this
unhappy land. And to multiply the irony, the United States supported Pol
Pot
and the Khmer Rouge after their subsequent defeat by the Vietnamese.
1957 - 1973
AMERICAN GENOCIDE OF THE LAOTIAN PEOPLE
Estimated total civilian deaths: over 500,000 people
The Laotian left, led by the Pathet Lao, tried to effect social change
peacefully, making significant electoral gains and taking part in
coalition
governments. But the United States would have none of that.
The CIA and the State Department, through force, bribery and other
pressures, engineered coups in 1958, 1959 and 1960. Eventually, the only
option left for the Pathet Lao was armed force.
The CIA created its famous "Arme Clandestine" - totaling 30,000, from
every
corner of Asia - to do battle, while the US Air Force, between 1965 and
1973, rained down more than two million tons of bombs upon the people of
Laos, many of whom were forced to live in caves for years in a desperate
attempt to escape the monsters falling from the sky.
After hundreds of thousands had been killed, many more maimed, and
countless
bombed villages with hardly stone standing upon stone, the Pathet Lao took
control of the country, following on the heels of events in Vietnam.
MID-1950S, 1970-71
AMERICAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS ON THE ELECTED LEADER OF COSTA RICA
From Rogue State
by William Blum:
To liberal American political leaders, President Jose Figueres was the
quintessential "liberal democrat", the kind of statesman they liked to
think, and liked the world to think, was the natural partner of US foreign
policy rather than the military dictators who somehow kept popping up as
allies.
Yet the United States tried to overthrow Figueres (in the 1950s, and
perhaps
also in the 1970s, when he was again president), and tried to assassinate
him twice. The reasons? Figueres was not tough enough on the left, led
Costa
Rica to become the first country in Central America to establish
diplomatic
relations with the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, and on occasion
questioned American foreign policy, like the Bay of Pigs invasion.
1959 - PRESENT
AMERICAN SUBVERSION AND STATE TERRORISM OF THE CUBAN PEOPLE
From Killing Hope
by William Blum:
Fidel Castro came to power at the beginning of 1959. A U.S. National
Secu
 
 
"Kevin"
12/5/2003 6:40:14 PM


Yet everyone wants to live here. Ask yourself why smart guy.


"Kevin" <Um@nothanks.com> wrote in message
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First of all Vox, the data is form 1980 to 2000. So it is not correct to
say that it "is" surging. It is correct to say that it did surge.
Second: Of course. Why would any sane person want to live in those god
forsaken countries that are mostly ruled by religeous and tribal leaders
for
their own benefit and power. Tribal leaders!? It is 2003 you morons.
Tribes don't mean #@($. Get with it.


"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message
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AnonMoos
12/5/2003 10:27:50 PM


"=> Vox Asinorum " wrote:
AnonMoos wrote:
Whatever, your bigotry is showing again.
It's just a fact that George Habash style terrorism ain't the same as
Osama Bin La-Deen style terrorism.
And those who have been in this country for a number of years,
have developed community ties, have U.S. citizenship, and are
able to vote are even more likely to be Christians.
Wishful thinking on your part ...loser.
Nope, simple demographics ...ignoramus. Christian "Syrians" (i.e.
from the general Lebanon-Syria-Israel region) started immigrating
to this country over a hundred years ago, while Muslim Arabs didn't
start immigrating to this country in any large numbers until the
late 1960's.
Whatever, ain't got sweet @$#* all to do with the topic under
discussion.
In your vicious hatred and bigotry against all things American, you
were hoping for a well-organized consolidated cadre of 1.2 million
Muslim Arabs who would work to undermine the political system of the
United States of America. Whether or not you want to face up to the
fact, such a consolidated cadre of 1.2 million dedicated Arab-American
fifth-columnists simply doesn't exist, except in your perfervid
fantasies, Vox Asinorum!
--
SAUDIA OMNIS IN PARTES TRES DIVIDENDA EST! Free Arabia by
splitting the Saudi tyranny into its three natural parts:
Hejaz-alHarameyn, Nejd-Wahhabistan, and Gulf-Petrolia.
Murderers are not Martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
 
 
"- Vox Populi ©"
12/6/2003 12:46:42 AM




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Yet everyone wants to live here.
Everyone? ...yeah sure you ignorant nutsucker, at least that's the lie
they indoctrinate you morons with in U$ Cheerleader school ...
Ask yourself why smart guy.
Why you are so pathetically stupid?


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