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Victim's rights group upset that Kobe leads all-star voting



s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8)
12/12/2003 8:18:16 AM


http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.

"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
 
 
"brink"
12/12/2003 8:44:58 AM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6bd12cd6.0312120818.2dad81c6@posting.google.com...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-head
lines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
ummm... earth to CCASA... kobe was perhaps the most popular player in the
NBA *before* the accusation, mostly due to his bball abilities. the only
*fact* on record at this point is that kobe is an adulterer, and we already
have jordan as case in point to prove that adultery alone won't dissuade
overall public opinion about a player.
the irony is that CCASA would love if people would act with prejudice toward
kobe and his career would be hurt in some way by as yet unproven
allegations, but if the same were to happen to the accuser (say if she were
refused promotion at her job or denied an award at school because of the
allegations she made) they would rightfully be indignant over the injustice
of it.
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
i hope stone won't mind if i remind her that *this* whole thing (the all
star game) is not a criminal case, it is a popularity contest. ;-)
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
12/12/2003 5:11:50 PM


"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault
Sure it's upsetting -- IF YOU PRESUME HE'S GUILTY.
If you presume he's innocent, it's thrilling!
And if you have no opinion either way -- it's neutral.
The message is -- victim's advocacy groups tend to presume
the accused is guilty. So those who believe in the constitutional
right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty should not listen
to victim's advocacy groups.
 
 
"Richard"
12/12/2003 11:07:23 AM


s_knight8! wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-h
eadlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
Can we say, "WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH"?
What? These people expect a person to quit his job and hide until it's all
over?
What about the rights of the accused? Why is his life being torn apart in
the media while his accuser enjoys hardly any notice at all?
And the #@&@
has the nerve to wear a prom dress that shows her off looking
like a slut.
I wonder why?
There once was a "cartoon" showing a young lady standing on the stairs in
her house and daddy was at the bottom.
When asked who got her pregnant, she gave it some long thought and finally
says, "Well, I've got it narrowed down between the football team and the
basketball team".
I wonder just how much like that character our "miss goody two shoes" really
is?
 
 
nolo
12/12/2003 7:46:06 PM


On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:44:58 -0800, brink wrote:
ummm... earth to CCASA... kobe was perhaps the most popular player in
the NBA *before* the accusation, mostly due to his bball abilities. the
only *fact* on record at this point is that kobe is an adulterer, and we
already have jordan as case in point to prove that adultery alone won't
dissuade overall public opinion about a player.
the irony is that CCASA would love if people would act with prejudice
toward kobe and his career would be hurt in some way by as yet unproven
allegations, but if the same were to happen to the accuser (say if she
were refused promotion at her job or denied an award at school because of
the allegations she made) they would rightfully be indignant over the
injustice of it.
so true
 
 
Gary Collard
12/12/2003 9:30:33 PM


brink wrote:
the irony is that CCASA would love if people would act with prejudice toward
kobe and his career would be hurt in some way by as yet unproven
allegations, but if the same were to happen to the accuser (say if she were
refused promotion at her job or denied an award at school because of the
allegations she made) they would rightfully be indignant over the injustice
of it.
Yep, you nailed it...hypocrisy alert. Like that website that censors the
"we don't know what happened" POV.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"When I consider how sweaters tend to make me sweat, I'm a lot less
inclined to wear my windbreaker." -- Brad Hamer
 
 
Cadmus
12/12/2003 4:40:53 PM


On 12 Dec 2003 08:18:16 -0800, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8)
postulated:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.

"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
Has Gloria Allred wormed her way onto all the news talk shows yet to
denounce NBA fans as insensitive, chauvinistic misogynists??
 
 
Nomen Nescio
12/13/2003 12:40:02 AM


On 12 Dec 2003, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
That sounds like what's happening, considering the victim in this
is probably Kobe.
 
 
"eichler4"
12/13/2003 12:33:07 AM


They shouldn't be upset. Kobe is the victim, not Katelyn Faber. It's great
to see most people acknowledge he's the victim and show him support. This
victims rights group has a great concept, but to have any type of
credibility they need to choose wisely who they support. I'm sorry, but
every person who accuses someone of rape isn't a victim like this group
believes. Only those who were raped are victims.


"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6bd12cd6.0312120818.2dad81c6@posting.google.com...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
 
 
"1" <1@1.com>
12/12/2003 5:25:19 PM


Well, I hope they all commit suicide like Lemmings..


"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6bd12cd6.0312120818.2dad81c6@posting.google.com...

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
 
 
Michael Fletcher
12/12/2003 5:54:11 PM


s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
Duh?
"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
Oh that's cute. Is she still pretending like the prosecution has a case?
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
Anyone who's not a total @$#*ing doofus did, anyhow.
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
Maybe she should've had dignity and fairness in mind when she showed up
to an exam with undies spooged on by another man trying to put in
innocent man in jail.

--
MF
See L.A. for class
On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts
of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard.
The fans gave him a long ovation.
The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his
20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters
worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan.
Clinton E. Parish
Sacramento
Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
 
 
Michael Fletcher
12/12/2003 5:55:21 PM


brink wrote:


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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-head
lines-sports

ummm... earth to CCASA... kobe was perhaps the most popular player in the
NBA *before* the accusation, mostly due to his bball abilities. the only
*fact* on record at this point is that kobe is an adulterer, and we already
have jordan as case in point to prove that adultery alone won't dissuade
overall public opinion about a player.
the irony is that CCASA would love if people would act with prejudice toward
kobe and his career would be hurt in some way by as yet unproven
allegations, but if the same were to happen to the accuser (say if she were
refused promotion at her job or denied an award at school because of the
allegations she made) they would rightfully be indignant over the injustice
of it.
Ouch. Word.

i hope stone won't mind if i remind her that *this* whole thing (the all
star game) is not a criminal case, it is a popularity contest. ;-)

--
MF
See L.A. for class
On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts
of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard.
The fans gave him a long ovation.
The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his
20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters
worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan.
Clinton E. Parish
Sacramento
Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
 
 
"Alex"
12/13/2003 7:11:46 AM


"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:6bd12cd6.0312120818.2dad81c6@posting.google.com...
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
Why do I hate these reactionary "victim's rights" people? Maybe
it's watching Fox News Channel too much (Gloria Allred AND
Wendy Murphy - which is a shame because wendy-is-such-a-
pretty-girl), or maybe seem to be too selective about which
victims/perpetrators they get excited about.
I guess they just seem like dogmatic, spoiled brats.
Alex
 
 
yaffaDina1@netscape.net (yaffaDina1)
12/13/2003 8:04:42 AM


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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-head
lines-sports
ummm... earth to CCASA... kobe was perhaps the most popular player in the
NBA *before* the accusation, mostly due to his bball abilities. the only
*fact* on record at this point is that kobe is an adulterer, and we already
have jordan as case in point to prove that adultery alone won't dissuade
overall public opinion about a player.
the irony is that CCASA would love if people would act with prejudice toward
kobe and his career would be hurt in some way by as yet unproven
allegations, but if the same were to happen to the accuser (say if she were
refused promotion at her job or denied an award at school because of the
allegations she made) they would rightfully be indignant over the injustice
of it.
i hope stone won't mind if i remind her that *this* whole thing (the all
star game) is not a criminal case, it is a popularity contest. ;-)
Does this mean that the vote is based on the case not his abilities as
a basketball player? Hmmm I hope the organizers of the vote don't
find out, they might have to remove him and his votes from the poll.
Who's #2? Any charges pending?
yD
 
 
"Todd Moss"
12/13/2003 9:54:48 PM




"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote in message
news:brcskh02hmp@enews3.newsguy.com...

s_knight8! wrote:
Can we say, "WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH"?
What? These people expect a person to quit his job and hide until it's all
over?
What about the rights of the accused? Why is his life being torn apart in
the media while his accuser enjoys hardly any notice at all?
And the #@&@
has the nerve to wear a prom dress that shows her off
looking
like a slut.
I wonder why?
There once was a "cartoon" showing a young lady standing on the stairs in
her house and daddy was at the bottom.
When asked who got her pregnant, she gave it some long thought and finally
says, "Well, I've got it narrowed down between the football team and the
basketball team".
I wonder just how much like that character our "miss goody two shoes"
really
is?
You are a sick stupid bastard, Bullis. Does your brain ever function
correctly? Everything you write reeks of perversion and stupidity. Jesus
@$#*ing christ blow your brains out for Christmas would ya.
 
 
dukekixunc@hotmail.com (Chris Weidman)
12/13/2003 2:04:45 PM


thats hilarous, even though I could care less about kobe, i hope he
does go to the all star game
s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0312120818.2dad81c6@posting.google.com>...
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-kobe12dec12,1,4936903.story?coll=la-headlines-sports
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.

"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
 
 
THEJeffBarnes@webtv.net (Jeff Barnes)
12/15/2003 1:40:28 AM


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As I listen to the great Ray Boltz, the Gospel singer, singing about
Christmas, let us now reflect on the Reason For The Season. The Reason
For The Season:

JESUS CHRIST
Amen. And I'd like to thank Jesus and our Military for the successful
capture of Saddam Hussein w/out a shot being fired or a hair being
singed. Again let us reflect on the Reason For The Season in silent
contemplation.
Amen. And now its time to take this post line upon line and precept
upon precept.
Reaction among experts who have followed Kobe Bryant's sexual assault
case to news that the Laker star leads the Western Conference All-Star
voting ranged from dismay to delight.
At this point in the season his integers seem to be down, but that's
expected when you have so many talented scoring threats. It is not
unusual nor should it be surprising that he's of All Star Caliber.
Victims' rights groups are upset at the perception that support for
Bryant's accuser could be eroding, but some legal analysts said the
voting might reflect a growing feeling that the prosecution's case is
weak.
And of course the fact that Yao Ming sat Shaq down in last year's All
Star Game reflects the fact that there are Billions of Chinese in the
world. Amen. There is the court of public opinion, which is now being
tempered by other pressing matters like Michael Jackson and such like.
But the most important court is the court of JUSTICE. Kobe is getting
his JUST desserts right now "reaping what he sows":
A: Admitted adulterer.
B: Potential Divorce w/payments to pay.
C: The civil suit or "shakedown" as OJ Simpson would say will be most
interesting.
D: The process must occur regardless. And when it happens the waters
will be troubled on Kobe's part.
(In a digression, let me say that I feel that the COURT SYSTEM has
lost touch with THE PEOPLE, but that's another point)
So as the song says: "Let It Be Dear Lord, Let It Be".
There will be justice, and that's what I'm going to comment on in my
next segment: Let's begin.

"It is upsetting when Kobe gets this kind of show of support, while at
the same time the victim is slandered over the Internet and there are
death threats," said Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado
Coalition Against Sexual Assault.
This implies that the alleged victim is not getting support, but
obviously this is a fallacy. The abuse and threats were dealt with in
short fashion. And in a perverse sort of way, Kobe's supporters are
helping her in a future trial of civil semantics (which are contested
much diff'rently than criminal).
I want to be realistic here. Both Kobe and Michael will get off; in
fact the Jackson case in particular seems to have come in with
Revelation Knowledge from Child Welfare. Absent any overwhelming
evidence (like the celebs molesting on national TV hookups) this will
be an overturn or acquittal. Amen.
"This case is the epitome of how our society treats victims of sexual
assault. We don't have a mechanism in place to show support for
victims. We don't have an All-Star game. We don't get to vote across
the country."
I disagree with that, seeing as how Lifetime Network has a whole
lineup based on stories just like this one. And I actually like SOME
of the incident reports done in movie form because they inform the
public service. If nothing else, this girl can get a movie deal and
inform other people about rape, etc and help others. It is her duty
for all men and for all boys. Amen. Naturally for all women of course.
So never say that there's not an "All Star" Format for rape victims in
high profile cases.
You gotta barn tobacco; that's all there is to it. You gotta take
authority. You gotta tell us your story. Lets see about the trial what
story comes out; she'll have to testify. Amen? Amen.
However, Larry Pozner, former president of the National Assn. of
Criminal Defense Lawyers, took an opposite view, interpreting the
voting as "Americans living up to the Constitution."
"The public is saying, 'I'll decide his guilt or innocence based on
the proof, not the rumors,' " he said. "If that happens, he is in very
good shape. I think sports fans are not really different than anyone
else. They don't tolerate criminals, but they don't necessarily
believe every rumor."
The only way the public matters is in what sense they can be exploited
to either Kobe's or her's (or Michael's or the boy's) advantage. And
The CONSTITUTION DEFINITELY! Kobe is carrying on like a King! And such
that he should for he's under a Royal Priesthood; he makes more money
than many nations. And owners like Cuban are in La La Land, saying its
good for the league to have a rape case. Yes friends the only thing
that matters is CONSTITUTION and ultimately THE LORD. Amen.
As I listen to "O come all ye faithful", let us have another
reflection moment:
Pozner and other legal analysts note that the pendulum of public
opinion began to swing in Bryant's direction after the October
preliminary hearing, when Bryant's attorneys repeatedly poked holes in
the prosecution's evidence. Even the presiding judge indicated the
case was flimsy.
That prelim hearing was classic, both for what that lady lawyer did (I
like tough feisty lawyers like that) and for what the prosecution
didn't do! In fact both the EAGLE CO and SANTA BARBARA prosecutions
have made vital errors in the cases. The DA Sneedon is a walking error
in particular (boy I'm digressing today).
Watch this: If Michael Jackson is GUILTY, then the authorities were
jerks for not getting him in 93 (but) if Michael Jackson be NOT
GUILTY, then what are they doing picking on him? Jerks either way.
Amen.
"It's stunning Kobe would get that All-Star vote, and it does show the
effects of the preliminary hearing," Pozner said. "People heard so
many uncontested facts that cast doubt on the prosecution case and
said, 'Wait a minute.' "
"I do want to remind people that this whole thing is not a popularity
contest, it is a criminal case," Stone said. "All we are really asking
is that the victim be supported with dignity and fairness."
Fair is fair. Celebrities get off, civil suits are filed (and) both
parties are left standing there looking like doofuses. Our system is
still at work and God is still working. Remember that.
And remember the Reason For The Season
Thank you Baby Jesus!
You came from Heaven to Earth
To Show Us The Way
From the EARTH to the CROSS
Our Debts are paid
From the CROSS to the GRAVE
From the GRAVE to the SKY
Lord I lift your
 
 
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