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how driver license managed across jurisdictions?



"Elephant Ele"
12/16/2003 2:14:40 AM


does anybody know how driver license is managed across different
jurisdictins? i.e.,
if a guy gets DL from cali., then he moves to florida, he applies for
Florida license with his california DL, by surrendering his California
DL, in this case, will RMV in california know the DL has been
transferred? will florida RMV notify california RMV acticely? or it's
the guy's responsiblity to notify the original state he is from?
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"Richard"
12/15/2003 11:40:48 PM


Elephant Ele wrote:
does anybody know how driver license is managed across different
jurisdictins? i.e.,
if a guy gets DL from cali., then he moves to florida, he applies for
Florida license with his california DL, by surrendering his California
DL, in this case, will RMV in california know the DL has been
transferred? will florida RMV notify california RMV acticely? or it's
the guy's responsiblity to notify the original state he is from?
The states take care of that. I've had DL's in Ohio, Colorado, Wisconsin,
Ohio, Kentucky and Wisconsin and never once had to tell anyone in doing
that.
You hand over your license to the examiner, then they send the licenses to
the former state.
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"Nehmo Sergheyev"
12/16/2003 2:54:37 AM


- Elephant Ele -
does anybody know how driver license is managed across different
jurisdictins? i.e.,
The states take care of that. I've had DL's in Ohio, Colorado,
Wisconsin,
Ohio, Kentucky and Wisconsin and never once had to tell anyone in
doing
that.
You hand over your license to the examiner, then they send the
licenses to
the former state.
- Nehmo -
I doubt they actually physically send the license to the old state.
I don't know what the system is, but I know the communication between
one state and another is not perfect. In any particular case, anything
may happen.
I do know that in Missouri, if, while applying for a license, you tell
them you never had a license before, they will then run your social
security number or name to find out if your license has been suspended
or revoked in another state. I understand they use a data base that
(I've been told) four states don't contribute to. I'm not sure which
states those are.
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* Nehmo Sergheyev *
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Tam
12/16/2003 10:55:39 AM


On 16/12/03 8:54, in article EIzDb.162154$M02.71093@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com,
"Nehmo Sergheyev" <nehmo54@hotmail.com> wrote:
I don't know what the system is, but I know the communication between
one state and another is not perfect. In any particular case, anything
may happen.
I do know that in Missouri, if, while applying for a license, you tell
them you never had a license before, they will then run your social
security number or name to find out if your license has been suspended
or revoked in another state. I understand they use a data base that
(I've been told) four states don't contribute to. I'm not sure which
states those are.
Try:
http://www.drivers.com/topic/7/
Especially
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/perform/driver/
"The National Driver Register (NDR) is a central repository of information
on individuals whose privilege to drive has been revoked, suspended,
canceled or denied or who have been convicted of serious traffic-related
offenses. The records maintained at the NDR consist of identification
information including name, date of birth, gender, driver license number,
and reporting State. All of the substantive information, the reason for the
suspension or conviction and associated dates, resides in the reporting
State...."
And see
http://tinyurl.com/zfvn
23 C.F.R. 1327.5 also found at
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/retrieve.html
 
 
"Elephant Ele"
12/16/2003 5:12:57 PM


then what will happen if getting a Canadian DL by surrendering US DL?
after surrendering the US DL to Canadian RMV, will they let US
counterpart know? or are they gonna disclose this information
periodically to US? (e.g., monthly or yearly update etc...) thus, set
up a certain link between US SSN and Canadian SIN?
If there will be a link like "SSN <-> US DL <->
Canadian DL <-> SIN"? that means we can use our credit history and
employment history seemlessly back and forth between Canada and the US?
or to what extent, will this link be visible to people? any employer?
Ele
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"David W."
12/16/2003 7:48:10 PM


"Elephant Ele" <elephanttmto@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:010385ad76e8ba9db1dce53bab88d04d.122883@mygate.mailgate.org:
does anybody know how driver license is managed across different
jurisdictins? i.e.,
if a guy gets DL from cali., then he moves to florida, he applies for
Florida license with his california DL, by surrendering his California
DL, in this case, will RMV in california know the DL has been
transferred? will florida RMV notify california RMV acticely? or it's
the guy's responsiblity to notify the original state he is from?
When I moved from IL to TX, I applied for a TX license. When I surrendered
my IL license, it was destroyed. When I later moved back to IL, I went in
to apply for a license. They looked up my name in the computer, saw that I
still had a year left on the license, and issued a new card.
I think what really matters is that you only have one physical license at
any given time. As long as there's only one real license, nobody cares
what's in the computer.
Naturally, this process will vary from state to state, if for no other
reason than states prefer to be different from other states :-)
 
 
tamsuraiya@yahoo.ca (Tam)
12/17/2003 1:47:51 AM


"Elephant Ele" <elephanttmto@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<584dea2ed52526624821317d6faace9b.122883@mygate.mailgate.org>...
then what will happen if getting a Canadian DL by surrendering US DL?
after surrendering the US DL to Canadian RMV, will they let US
counterpart know? or are they gonna disclose this information
periodically to US? (e.g., monthly or yearly update etc...) thus, set
up a certain link between US SSN and Canadian SIN?
If there will be a link like "SSN <-> US DL <->
Canadian DL <-> SIN"? that means we can use our credit history and
employment history seemlessly back and forth between Canada and the US?
or to what extent, will this link be visible to people? any employer?
Some US persons' credit (and, for that matter, tax) histories are
linked to a Canadian SIN and identity. Most are not. Someone I know
has had a driver license from a Canadian province for decades, and
also one from various US states all that time. However, in those days
there was no citizenship or visa requirement in either country for
applying for a SSN or s SIN. That person took separate road tests, and
at the time there was no impediment to having both. I understand (but
do not know) that one is not supposed to have both a license from a US
state and a license from a Canadian province without them being linked
(e.g., snowbirds who have Florida licenses marked "valid in Florida
only"; but even that may be difficult now, depending on the snowbird's
visa status:
http://www.hsmv.state.fl.us/ddl/faqkeys.html
I know that there is, or was, a Northeast compact among some states
and provinces to share moving violation information. That was before
the federal law behind the DOT register.
 
 
Alun
12/17/2003 1:06:11 PM


"Elephant Ele" <elephanttmto@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:584dea2ed52526624821317d6faace9b.122883@mygate.mailgate.org:
then what will happen if getting a Canadian DL by surrendering US DL?
after surrendering the US DL to Canadian RMV, will they let US
counterpart know? or are they gonna disclose this information
periodically to US? (e.g., monthly or yearly update etc...) thus, set
up a certain link between US SSN and Canadian SIN?
If there will be a link like "SSN <-> US DL <->
Canadian DL <-> SIN"? that means we can use our credit history and
employment history seemlessly back and forth between Canada and the US?
or to what extent, will this link be visible to people? any employer?
Ele
You **can't** exchange a licence in a foreign country atall. Ergo, most of
your questions are irrelevant. You have to take a driving test (yes, I
know that's a shock, but you passed one once, right?), albeit you can
drive on your US licence for a whole year in most countries before you
have to take a test, probably including Canada (?)
 
 
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