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I recently took a test with the following question: "Which of the following are created by Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution: A)Patents B)Copyrights C)Trademarks D)Trade secrets E)All of the above Now, I think the true answer is (A) AND (B). Trade secrets, at least, are only a part of state law, not federal law. Can someone provide a definitive answer to this question? Thanks.
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dhguy23@yahoo.com (Davis Howard) on 16 Dec 2003 suggested:
I recently took a test with the following question: "Which of the following are created by Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution: A)Patents B)Copyrights C)Trademarks D)Trade secrets E)All of the above Now, I think the true answer is (A) AND (B). Trade secrets, at least, are only a part of state law, not federal law. Can someone provide a definitive answer to this question? Thanks.
The correct answer, as I see it, would be "None of the above". Article I, Section 8, in the context of your thought, gives the Congress the power "To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries". It is an enablement clause, not an obligatory clause nor creationary clause. However, (A) & (B) above are the methods that are enabled by the aforementioned clause. Be aware though, that Federal Trademarks and Trade Secrets are enabled in the same Section 8, by the following clause, "To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes". So if you change the question you were given from "created" to "enabled", then (E) would be the correct answer, in my opinion. --Douglas
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On 16 Dec 2003 13:56:15 -0800, Davis Howard <dhguy23@yahoo.com> wrote:
I recently took a test with the following question: "Which of the following are created by Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution: A)Patents B)Copyrights C)Trademarks D)Trade secrets E)All of the above Now, I think the true answer is (A) AND (B). Trade secrets, at least, are only a part of state law, not federal law. Can someone provide a definitive answer to this question? Thanks.
A, B, and C at least are all powers reserved to Congress by Article I, Sec 8. It's probably not correct to say that any of them were created by the constitution, but rather that Congress is empowered to legislate them into existence. Trademark law is based on the Commerce Clause, while Patents and Coprights are based on the IP Clause. I'm drawing a blank on whether there is any federal trade secret law, but I suppose the Commerce Clause might enable Congress to pass such law. I would have selected E. Isaac
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Isaac <isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> writes:
Trademark law is based on the Commerce Clause, while Patents and Coprights are based on the IP Clause.
Isn't EERYTHING that Congress does ultimately based on the Commerce clause, at least as a fallback argument? After all, everything we do is, in some way, interstate commerce. Specifically, I'm thinking of activities such as breathing, because the exhaled nitrogen molecules will eventually cross state lines and be used in a fertilizer factory. -- Rahul
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:02:27 +0000 (UTC), Rahul Dhesi <c.c.eiftj@patentsXXt.usenet.us.com> wrote:
Isaac <isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> writes: Isn't EERYTHING that Congress does ultimately based on the Commerce clause, at least as a fallback argument? After all, everything we do is, in some way, interstate commerce. Specifically, I'm thinking of activities such as breathing, because the exhaled nitrogen molecules will eventually cross state lines and be used in a fertilizer factory.
I don't think so. There are limits as to convoluted an argument a majority of the Supreme Court will accept. The Commerce Clause doesn't extend far enough to allow Congress to ban guns around schools, or to support the Violence against Women Act. IMO (and as pointed out by the desent in those cases) it isn't that hard to make a far more direct connection to interstate commerce than exhaled nitrogen molecules. Further, in some cases it's just silly to suggest that the Commerce Clause is a fallback. If Congress is exercising an explicitly granted power under the Constitution, and there are a bunch of them, what sense does it make to insist that a twisty Commerce Clause argument allows Congress to do the same thing. I think Congress could create patent and copyright like protection using the Commerce Clause if the IP Clause didn't exist. There wouldn't be any wording about "limited times" or "authors or inventors", so it's possible that such protection might be quite different from what we have under the IP Clause. Isaac
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Isaac <isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> writes: Isn't EERYTHING that Congress does ultimately based on the Commerce clause, at least as a fallback argument? After all, everything we do is, in some way, interstate commerce. Specifically, I'm thinking of activities such as breathing, because the exhaled nitrogen molecules will eventually cross state lines and be used in a fertilizer factory.
I don't think so. There are limits as to convoluted an argument a majority of the Supreme Court will accept. The Commerce Clause doesn't extend far enough to allow Congress to ban guns around schools, or to support the Violence against Women Act....
This are, of course, distinguishable because no nitrogen is exhaled by guns or by violence. Admittedly guns do generate other products of combustion, but none of those are used in fertilizer factories. -- Rahul
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:05:34 +0000 (UTC), Rahul Dhesi <c.c.eiftj@patentsXXt.usenet.us.com> wrote:
Isaac <isaac@latveria.castledoom.org> writes: This are, of course, distinguishable because no nitrogen is exhaled by guns or by violence. Admittedly guns do generate other products of combustion, but none of those are used in fertilizer factories.
Uhh... Leggo of my chain. Isaac
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