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I met my wife when she was underage (16) and we were both working at a
camp. I was 29 at the time. We became involved and then we were
sexually involved on several occasions. She panicked because she
thought she was pregnant and told her parents. They didn't do
anything, i.e. press charges or even confront me. We decided that we
should break things off because it wasn't worth any further risk. We
waited until she was 18 to continue seeing each other. Her parents
didn't know anything about our relationship at that point. Last year,
we were married. She is now 21 and I am 34. We told her parents and
now everything is completely settled.
The problem is that I am preparing to enter a career in law
enforcement and I know this issue will come up. I believe the statute
of limitations for the initial contacts will run out after 5-6 years.
But I could be wrong. I need to know if the police can use my
statements collected during a background investigation as a confession
in order to press charges against me or if it is an amnesty type of
situation where you can "come clean" without recourse. My wife will
refuse to testify against me if this ever did go to court and her
parents don't want to see this happen either. So, I don't see the
point in filing charges if the state isn't going to have any
witnesses. Anyone care to share their *PROFESSIONAL* opinion?
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gil_grissom wrote:
I met my wife when she was underage (16) and we were both working at a
camp. I was 29 at the time. We became involved and then we were
sexually involved on several occasions. She panicked because she
thought she was pregnant and told her parents. They didn't do
anything, i.e. press charges or even confront me. We decided that we
should break things off because it wasn't worth any further risk. We
waited until she was 18 to continue seeing each other. Her parents
didn't know anything about our relationship at that point. Last year,
we were married. She is now 21 and I am 34. We told her parents and
now everything is completely settled.
The problem is that I am preparing to enter a career in law
enforcement and I know this issue will come up.
What issue? What would the question on the form be?
Q. Have you ever been convicted of a crime (usually excluding
minor traffic violations)?
A. Answer honestly on the form.
Q. Have you ever been arrested (again, usually excluding
minor traffic violations)?
A. Answer honestly, but if the answer to the first Q is no,
you should still be OK.
Q. Have you ever done anything illegal?
A. How the <bleep> should I know? I haven't been arrested.
Personally, I don't see any advantage to admitting it unless there's
a specific place on the application forms. Security clearance forms
don't even have a space for that (although they do for illegal drug
use), and I think those are more stringent than law enforcement
screening.
It should be pointed out that this post can probably be traced
by any law enforcement agency interested in your background,
anyway. So....
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"Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in message news:<4016A6B2.84B1A751@sprintmail.com>...
gil_grissom wrote:
What issue? What would the question on the form be?
Q. Have you ever been convicted of a crime (usually excluding
minor traffic violations)?
A. Answer honestly on the form.
Q. Have you ever been arrested (again, usually excluding
minor traffic violations)?
A. Answer honestly, but if the answer to the first Q is no,
you should still be OK.
Q. Have you ever done anything illegal?
A. How the <bleep> should I know? I haven't been arrested.
Personally, I don't see any advantage to admitting it unless there's
a specific place on the application forms. Security clearance forms
don't even have a space for that (although they do for illegal drug
use), and I think those are more stringent than law enforcement
screening.
It should be pointed out that this post can probably be traced
by any law enforcement agency interested in your background,
anyway. So....
They usually ask something to the effect of "Have you ever done
anything illegal for which you were not arrested or caught?" How the
<bleep> should you know?? That's the classic ignorance of the law
plea which is not a generally acceptable plea. Could you imagine:
"Sorry officer, I see now that you have arrested me that it is illegal
to drink and drive. I won't do it anymore from now on."
The advantage in admitting it is not having it come back to bite me on
down the road, especially if they ask the question I am thinking they
will ask.
Law enforcement COULD try to trace this back to my generic Email
address but they might have a little more difficult time tracing it
back to me personally. But then, what would be the point? To file
charges against me for a 6 year old crime in which there is no injured
party now.
I have decided to consult with a practicing attorney on retainer so I
can get a definitive answer.
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<polite snipping>
I have decided to consult with a practicing attorney on retainer so I
can get a definitive answer.
See, you're getting smarter already.
Good luck.
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gil_grissom wrote:
I met my wife when she was underage (16) and we were both working at a
camp. I was 29 at the time. We became involved and then we were
sexually involved on several occasions. She panicked because she
thought she was pregnant and told her parents. They didn't do
anything, i.e. press charges or even confront me. We decided that we
should break things off because it wasn't worth any further risk. We
waited until she was 18 to continue seeing each other. Her parents
didn't know anything about our relationship at that point. Last year,
we were married. She is now 21 and I am 34. We told her parents and
now everything is completely settled.
The problem is that I am preparing to enter a career in law
enforcement and I know this issue will come up. I believe the statute
of limitations for the initial contacts will run out after 5-6 years.
But I could be wrong. I need to know if the police can use my
statements collected during a background investigation as a confession
in order to press charges against me or if it is an amnesty type of
situation where you can "come clean" without recourse. My wife will
refuse to testify against me if this ever did go to court and her
parents don't want to see this happen either. So, I don't see the
point in filing charges if the state isn't going to have any
witnesses. Anyone care to share their *PROFESSIONAL* opinion?
Getting into that kind of detail on the application would be illegal anyway.
Unless you lived in a state where 16 year olds can legally consent to sex,
you could be guilty of statutory rape "IN THAT STATE". Since it has been
discovered previously, the SOL has run out.
I personally wouldn't worry about it unless it becomes an issue for a
security clearance.
Even then, they'll probably chuckle and drop it.
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gil_grissom wrote:
They usually ask something to the effect of "Have you ever done
anything illegal for which you were not arrested or caught?"
I don't think that's a legal question, even in law enforcement.
But, as you note later in this post, you're planning to consult
with a practicing attorney, so don't take MY word for it.
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"Arthur L. Rubin" <ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in message news:<4017FBB8.3CD1E589@sprintmail.com>...
gil_grissom wrote:
I don't think that's a legal question, even in law enforcement.
But, as you note later in this post, you're planning to consult
with a practicing attorney, so don't take MY word for it.
According to my attorney, you are correct. Here is what I found out:
1) The statute of limitations has run out.
2) Since my wife was the 'victim', we are still married, and she
doesn't want to testify anyway, the LE agency could ask the DA to file
but s/he would laugh at them. Even if my wife DID want to testify,
she couldn't while we are married because in CA, the husband holds the
husband/wife privelege.
3) They can NOT ask a question like "Have you ever done anything
illegal for which you were not caught, arrested, etc." However, they
DO ask questions like "Have you ever done illicit drugs?", "As an
adult, have you ever had sex with a minor?", "How many times?", "How
many different partners?", etc. I guess they preface the polygraph
with these detailed questions so that they can ask you about the facts
during the polygraph with Yes or No questions. Like if you answered 5
times with two different people, they will ask you "Have you had sex
with minors five times?", "Have you had sex with two different
minors?"
4) Ultimately, they are looking for a pattern of habitual behaviour
in which an individual is preying upon children. My situation was
very rare and as a result, I married this wonderful woman.
In retrospect, we should have told her parents that we wanted to get
married back then and obtained their permission, since my wife
graduated High School at age 16 and was already in College at that
point.
On a side note, it is interesting to see the trend that is developing,
at least in California, where individuals aren't really seen as
'adults' until they are in their 30's. Because of the exorbitent
housing and higher education costs, the years of dependency upon
parents is increasing. I would be curious to see some numbers
regarding the mean, average, etc. ages of people who still live with
their folks in California v. other states. I know in traveling around
the country, it's not unusal for women to be married and have kids in
their early 20s but in California, it's like some kind of social
taboo. Unless of course you are an illegal alien from Mexico and then
you start having kids at age 15 or so.
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From: no_spam_for_me_thanks@yahoo.com (gil_grissom)
According to my attorney, you are correct. Here is what I found out:
1) The statute of limitations has run out.
2) Since my wife was the 'victim', we are still married, and she
doesn't want to testify anyway, the LE agency could ask the DA to file
but s/he would laugh at them. Even if my wife DID want to testify,
she couldn't while we are married because in CA, the husband holds the
husband/wife privelege.
3) They can NOT ask a question like "Have you ever done anything
illegal for which you were not caught, arrested, etc." However, they
DO ask questions like "Have you ever done illicit drugs?", "As an
adult, have you ever had sex with a minor?", "How many times?", "How
many different partners?", etc. I guess they preface the polygraph
with these detailed questions so that they can ask you about the facts
during the polygraph with Yes or No questions. Like if you answered 5
times with two different people, they will ask you "Have you had sex
with minors five times?", "Have you had sex with two different
minors?"
4) Ultimately, they are looking for a pattern of habitual behaviour
in which an individual is preying upon children. My situation was
very rare and as a result, I married this wonderful woman.
They are also looking for common sense and the ability to determine right and
wrong....you were a 29 year old engaging in sex with a 16 year old at what
sounds like a summer camp.....they also might question your maturity....29 year
olds are supposed to know 16 year olds are off limits....
In retrospect, we should have told her parents that we wanted to get
married back then and obtained their permission, since my wife
graduated High School at age 16 and was already in College at that
point.
On a side note, it is interesting to see the trend that is developing,
at least in California, where individuals aren't really seen as
'adults' until they are in their 30's.
????????
Because of the exorbitent
housing and higher education costs, the years of dependency upon
parents is increasing. I would be curious to see some numbers
regarding the mean, average, etc. ages of people who still live with
their folks in California v. other states. I know in traveling around
the country, it's not unusal for women to be married and have kids in
their early 20s but in California, it's like some kind of social
taboo. Unless of course you are an illegal alien from Mexico and then
you start having kids at age 15 or so.
??????? Exactly WHY you want to go into Law Enforcement? We deal with a whole
range of people and a comment like the last one you made would probably get you
in a whole lot of trouble and possibly fired.....and as a 31 year old person
wanting to go into LE, you SHOULD KNOW BETTER.......
But the real problem for you is if anyone else knows about your affair with a
16 year old....you won't be the only person they question.....and if they find
out about your past without your telling them about it, you won't have a chance
at a LE job.....there were a couple in my academy who were booted because of
things in their past that they thought were "hidden".....and in my state, you
get a lifetime disqualification for not being forthright and truthful....which
means you can NEVER hold a POST certified job....
If I were you, I would first evaluate WHY you want a LE job and then consider
some other job options.....
With what I've seen of what you've written, even if you DO get hired, you won't
have that career for very long......
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olds are supposed to know 16 year olds are off limits....
There are a lot of things in life that are "off limits". I suppose
you are one of the 1% of LE personnel who led a perfect life and had
nothing to confess to for the background check.
In retrospect, we should have told her parents that we wanted to get
married back then and obtained their permission, since my wife
graduated High School at age 16 and was already in College at that
point.
On a side note, it is interesting to see the trend that is developing,
at least in California, where individuals aren't really seen as
'adults' until they are in their 30's.
????????
Her parents would have given us permission to get married, had we
asked them at the time. My point was that there are some people who
are mature "adults" at 16. I am sure you probably think that's BS.
My mother was 16 and my father 21 when they got married. But that was
a common and acceptible thing in Ohio. The age of consent there is
still 16 today. My point was that there are only 8 states out of 50
that think 18 is the right age to make decisions about sex. 8 other
states have 17 as their AOC and the rest are 16 or lower. My point
was that there are other cultures (Mexican) and subcultures who
believe 16 is not too young to have sex, marry, and even have kids.
My point was that each situation should be evaluated individually.
??????? Exactly WHY you want to go into Law Enforcement? We deal with a
I am 34. These things happened 5 years ago, when I was 29. I knew at
the time that I met her, that we would marry someday. I could have
met her in college, since she was taking college classes and had
graduated from high school already. Also, we were both workers at the
camp, it wasn't a counselor/camper situation. Perhaps the law should
be changed to "minor = still in high school" or something. Or, maybe
have people take a maturity test or something so that they are
eligible to think and act for themselves with the consent of the
state. I think and act like most people my age, and so does my wife.
You probably aren't capable of grasping that idea.
We made a mistake in not a) asking her folks for permission to get
married or b) filing for emancipation prior to becoming sexually
involved. You know nothing about me other than this one incident.
For instance, my years of volunteer work in the community, the fact
that my family, my inlaws, and our friends are all supportive of our
relationship and believe that there should be special circumstances
and exceptions to the rules in this situation.
I am currently in a Master of Forensic Science program. In one of my
classes, the professor has been playing these tapes from LAPD. They
are called the "Officer Involved Shooting Series". The series was
created by Captain Richard Wemmer. The recurrent theme and message
is:
No two situations are the same. No matter how many times you
encounter a situation, you can't take anything for granted. You
shouldn't take it for granted that because I made a mistake, I
wouldn't be a good cop. As my attorney (a former cop) pointed out to
me, the police are looking for a pattern of recurrent behavior, i.e.
if I had slept with a bunch of under age people, not a solitary case
where the woman is now my wife.
Why do I want to become a cop?
Because I have the skills, education, positive attitude, and drive to
succeed that is necessary to be a cop.
Because I am not willing to lie about things like this incident.
Because I went on a ride along with a cop who was on the night shift.
He had a daytime business printing Tshirts. At about 23:45, we busted
some kids in a hotel with 3 other cops and a watch commander. My ride
along officer took about 3 ounces of pot into "custody". He claimed
he flushed it. About 01:30, we pulled into a deserted church parking
lot out in the middle of nowhere. He said, "ok, I need to get some
sleep. You are in charge." and we sat there for 3 hours. About 3
weeks later, I got a call asking me if I witnessed the officer
flushing the pot down the toilet. He was under investigation for
stealing the pot. I want to be a cop so that guys like this don't
have an opportunity to be cops. I want to be a cop because I am naive
and think that I can make a difference in the world.
I find it very hard to believe that every cop out there is completely
clean, i.e. that they don't have SOMETHING from their past. How about
yourself? I suppose you would claim you have never made a mistake or
error in judgement. But how honest would you be? Until/unless you are
faced with this exact situation, you can make all the claims you want
as to how you would act.
If it doesn't work out and the LE agencies can't get past this
incident, then, yes, I will seek other employment. Maybe I will write
books on evidence collection or mysteries or true crime or work for an
attorney or try to become a teacher of CJ and/or Forensic Science
classes. Who knows. I will cross that bridge when it comes.
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From: no_spam_for_me_thanks@yahoo.com (gil_grissom)
There are a lot of things in life that are "off limits". I suppose
you are one of the 1% of LE personnel who led a perfect life and had
nothing to confess to for the background check.
You'd be surprised how many people live a clean life....the fact you think most
don't scares me.....
Her parents would have given us permission to get married, had we
asked them at the time. My point was that there are some people who
are mature "adults" at 16. I am sure you probably think that's BS.
I'm wondering how sympathetic you will be to a father who's 16 year old
daughter was seduced by a 29 year old man and wants to report a statutory
rape.....
My point
was that there are other cultures (Mexican) and subcultures who
believe 16 is not too young to have sex,
Oh, I don't believe it is Mexican subculture to have children at the age of
16......I believe that it is the social breakdown of any culture that ALLOWS
children to be having children.....to blame it on an ethnic group shows some
serious prejudice against them.....
My point was that each situation should be evaluated individually.
And are you going to be the one who determines which laws should be applied
"individually"? I'd say that was a little bit out of a cop's range of job
duties....
I think and act like most people my age, and so does my wife.
You haven't shown that...you probably DO operate at your wife's age....
You probably aren't capable of grasping that idea.
LOLOLOLOL.....but then I never fooled around with a 16 year old when I was
29.....
You know nothing about me other than this one incident.
On the contrary, I know more about you from your writing than you would care to
know.....cops tend to be very good at sizing up people from the inadvertant
clues they leave...
For instance, my years of volunteer work in the community, the fact
that my family, my inlaws, and our friends are all supportive of our
relationship and believe that there should be special circumstances
and exceptions to the rules in this situation.
Yea, EVERYONE thinks there should be "special circumstances and exceptions to
the rules"....especially criminals....."special circumstances and exceptions"
get cops in trouble which is why we try to avoid them....
I am currently in a Master of Forensic Science program. In one of my
classes, the professor has been playing these tapes from LAPD. They
are called the "Officer Involved Shooting Series". The series was
created by Captain Richard Wemmer. The recurrent theme and message
is:
No two situations are the same. No matter how many times you
encounter a situation, you can't take anything for granted.
You are trying to apply the logic that teaches cops to be alert and prepared to
your situation....it just doesn't fit....and it shows your depth of
"rationalization" which is something else the people interviewing you will look
for...
Why do I want to become a cop?
Because I have the skills, education, positive attitude, and drive to
succeed that is necessary to be a cop.
????????
Because I am not willing to lie about things like this incident.
????????
Because I went on a ride along with a cop who was on the night shift.
He had a daytime business printing Tshirts. At about 23:45, we busted
some kids in a hotel with 3 other cops and a watch commander. My ride
along officer took about 3 ounces of pot into "custody". He claimed
he flushed it. About 01:30, we pulled into a deserted church parking
lot out in the middle of nowhere. He said, "ok, I need to get some
sleep. You are in charge." and we sat there for 3 hours. About 3
weeks later, I got a call asking me if I witnessed the officer
flushing the pot down the toilet. He was under investigation for
stealing the pot. I want to be a cop so that guys like this don't
have an opportunity to be cops.
First of all, I have a REALLY hard time believing this story......WHY would a
cop put his job on the line in front of a perfect stranger??????? If he took
possession of 3 oz of pot, I think his watch commander whom you claim was at
the scene would know about it... WHY would he destroy it...if he took it and
didn't report it, he'd probably have some other use for it..... WHY would he
"put you in charge" KNOWING that you were a civilian? WHERE was dispatch? NO
cop goes to sleep for 3 hours without dispatch sending out the whole force to
look for him......and then there's the fact that you didn't report him - they
had to call you 3 weeks later???.....doesn't make you look too good, does
it?????
I find it very hard to believe that every cop out there is completely
clean, i.e. that they don't have SOMETHING from their past. How about
yourself? I suppose you would claim you have never made a mistake or
error in judgement.
Sleeping with a 16 year old is MORE than just "an error in judgement"......and
yea, MOST COPS ARE CLEAN....those who have things to hide usually tip
themselves off and that few are the ones you read about in the
newspaper.......do you honestly think the interviewers and investigators are
rank amateurs? Those investigative interview and interrogation skills they
learn to deal with criminals are also applied to every law enforcement
candidate that they review...did you think they wouldn't be?
But how honest would you be?
My job depends on my honesty.....I don't lie and I know that if I did, I would
get justifiably fired.....
First of all, I would never have slept with a 16 year old when I was
29....second of all, I wouldn't be concerned about the DA.....third of all, I
wouldn't and don't think all cops are "guilty of something".....fourth of all,
I didn't get into this field because I thought all cops were crooks.....these
are the people who back you up and you NEED to trust them.....and you think
they are all crooks? Sheez.....I wouldn't want you at my back.....and I guess
that is the main reason I think you need to find another career.....
Until/unless you are
faced with this exact situation, you can make all the claims you want
as to how you would act.
Are you kidding? Just about every cop alive has had the "police groupies"
throwing themselves at us.....and they come in all ages.....so YES, I KNOW how
I would act....and that is another point against you.....anyone becoming a cop
HAS to KNOW THEMSELVES and what their triggers are....you obviously don't....
If it doesn't work out and the LE agencies can't get past this
incident, then, yes, I will seek other employment.
My guess is that you WILL be seeking other employment....if you do slip through
the cracks and get hired, I see REAL problems in your future.....
If your above stor
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truckinsp@aol.com (Truckinsp) wrote in message news:<20040201232156.13115.00000839@mb-m20.aol.com>...
You'd be surprised how many people live a clean life....the fact you
think most
don't scares me.....
The fact that I don't is based on direct statements from cops like
"Don't worry,
EVERYONE has some stuff in their background. Just be honest." Where
are you a
cop, in your mind??? In Kansas??? I don't believe you are a cop.
You are just a troll.
was that there are other cultures (Mexican) and subcultures who
believe 16 is not too young to have sex,
Oh, I don't believe it is Mexican subculture to have children at the
age of
You can believe whatever you want. In my class on gangs and my
criminology class
when I was going through my BA in Criminal Justice, we studied it. I
don't have the hard
statistics right in front of me, but it's true. You are probably
don't do any kind of work to try to understand the people from the
communities in which you work. That's another REAL problem with the
police, uneducated cops like yourself. Of course, you probably aren't
a cop in the first place.
16......I believe that it is the social breakdown of any culture
that ALLOWS
children to be having children.....to blame it on an ethnic group
shows some
serious prejudice against them.....
I am surprised they let you be a cop if you can't read. I told you
that in 68% of the
states in THIS country, the age is still 16 or less. If you don't
believe me, look it up
yourself. It isn't a BREAKDOWN. It's how things have been for
thousands of years.
You know nothing about me other than this one incident.
On the contrary, I know more about you from your writing than you
would care to
know.....cops tend to be very good at sizing up people from the
inadvertant
clues they leave...
You are so full of crap. Playing cop video games doesn't make you a
cop. Again, from
your Mike Hammer type definition of police skills, it would seem that
you are probably a
cop only in your own mind.
Because I went on a ride along with a cop who was on the night
shift.
He had a daytime business printing Tshirts. At about 23:45, we
busted
some kids in a hotel with 3 other cops and a watch commander. My
ride
along officer took about 3 ounces of pot into "custody". He
claimed
he flushed it. About 01:30, we pulled into a deserted church
parking
lot out in the middle of nowhere. He said, "ok, I need to get some
sleep. You are in charge." and we sat there for 3 hours. About 3
weeks later, I got a call asking me if I witnessed the officer
flushing the pot down the toilet. He was under investigation for
stealing the pot. I want to be a cop so that guys like this don't
have an opportunity to be cops.
First of all, I have a REALLY hard time believing this
story......WHY would a
cop put his job on the line in front of a perfect stranger???????
If he took
possession of 3 oz of pot, I think his watch commander whom you
claim was at
the scene would know about it... WHY would he destroy it...if he
took it and
didn't report it, he'd probably have some other use for it..... WHY
would he
"put you in charge" KNOWING that you were a civilian? WHERE was
dispatch? NO
cop goes to sleep for 3 hours without dispatch sending out the whole
force to
look for him......and then there's the fact that you didn't report
him - they
had to call you 3 weeks later???.....doesn't make you look too good,
does
it?????
Yeah, I had a hard time believing it too. I had a completely
different perception of cops-
a naive perception like yours that all cops lead perfect lives that
ALL cops are good-
before I went on this ride-along. At the scene the watch commander
confronted him
right then and there. He looked all nervous and all that. I don't
know why they didn't call
me for 3 more weeks. Again, maybe in your own fictitious police
department, maybe
there is never a backlog of paperwork or maybe in an investigation,
the detectives know
who ALL the witnesses are right away, etc. Maybe they wanted to get
rid of this
scumbag and were trying to build a case against him and were only
interested in
hearing my testimony if I could say "Yeah, I saw him put it in his
pocket".
But how honest would you be?
My job depends on my honesty.....I don't lie and I know that if I
did, I would
get justifiably fired.....
Yeah, I don't lie either. Of course, you are probably lying right
now.
are the people who back you up and you NEED to trust them.....and
you think
they are all crooks? Sheez.....I wouldn't want you at my
back.....and I guess
that is the main reason I think you need to find another career.....
First off, that's not the only reason I wanted to be a cop. Second, I
don't owe YOU any
kind of explanation for anything. I know there are good cops, they
are in the program I
am in right now. They go to my church. etc. I wouldn't trust you to
cover my back
either, pal. Hopefully if you are indeed a cop, you aren't on the
west coast.
Are you kidding? Just about every cop alive has had the "police
groupies"
throwing themselves at us.....and they come in all ages.....so YES,
I KNOW how
I would act....and that is another point against you.....anyone
becoming a cop
HAS to KNOW THEMSELVES and what their triggers are....you obviously
don't....
Once again, you are showing yourself to be completely full of crap.
"Police
Groupies"?? So now you fancy yourself some kind of celebrity??? The
fact that you
think you are immune to these so called triggers tells me that you are
probably not a
cop. Either that or you are fresh out of the academy or something, if
you even are a
cop. . .
Well, troll, it's been nice trading blows with you. If you want the
last word or whatever,
take it. I won't be replying after this. I trust the opinions and
facts told to me by REAL
LE people, not some punk who is probably a 12 year old video game
addict.
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From: no_spam_for_me_thanks@yahoo.com (gil_grissom)
The fact that I don't is based on direct statements from cops like
"Don't worry,
EVERYONE has some stuff in their background. Just be honest." Where
are you a
cop, in your mind??? In Kansas??? I don't believe you are a cop.
You are just a troll.
Nope, you're the troll.....what world do you live in? I don't think a real
cop would have told you what you said if they knew you had fooled around with a
16 year old and then decided to cool it when you thought she was
pregnant.....they might have been talking about traffic tickets.....but hardly
about statutory rape....
You are so full of crap. Playing cop video games doesn't make you a
cop. Again, from
your Mike Hammer type definition of police skills, it would seem that
you are probably a
cop only in your own mind.
LOLOLOL....my definition of what a cop does comes from personal
experience....your definition apparently comes from inside your fantasy addled
brain....
Yeah, I had a hard time believing it too. I had a completely
different perception of cops-
a naive perception like yours that all cops lead perfect lives that
ALL cops are good-
before I went on this ride-along. At the scene the watch commander
confronted him
right then and there. He looked all nervous and all that.
?????? The watch commander confronted him then and there?????? And yet he was
left to drive you around???? You obviously think the WC was as stupid as a
rock......
I don't
know why they didn't call
me for 3 more weeks. Again, maybe in your own fictitious police
department, maybe
there is never a backlog of paperwork or maybe in an investigation,
the detectives know
who ALL the witnesses are right away, etc. Maybe they wanted to get
rid of this
scumbag and were trying to build a case against him and were only
interested in
hearing my testimony if I could say "Yeah, I saw him put it in his
pocket".
My point is that YOU should have reported him immediately or after your
ridealong...the fact that it took THEM to contact you is a BIG
problem......what else would you ignore.....after all, your have all this
specialized CJ training....YOU knew something was wrong and YOU didn't report
it....IF this actually happened and it is a big IF, you were tested and you
failed.....
Yeah, I don't lie either. Of course, you are probably lying right
now.
LOLOLOL...What DO you call it then? Your whole story smacks of a fantasy
daydream...cops disappearing for 3 hrs and no one checking on them....cops
putting their careers on the line in front of a ridealong......
I know there are good cops, they
are in the program I
am in right now. They go to my church. etc. I
The ONLY good cops go to your church??????
Are you kidding? Just about every cop alive has had the "police
groupies"
throwing themselves at us.....and they come in all ages.....so YES,
I KNOW how
I would act....and that is another point against you.....anyone
becoming a cop
HAS to KNOW THEMSELVES and what their triggers are....you obviously
don't....
Once again, you are showing yourself to be completely full of crap.
"Police
Groupies"?? So now you fancy yourself some kind of celebrity???
Go talk to some REAL cops.....I think you've been watching COPS too much on
TV.....
The
fact that you
think you are immune
Who can't read? Did I say I was "immune"????? I said I know what my triggers
are and protect myself.....
to these so called triggers tells me that you are
probably not a
cop. Either that or you are fresh out of the academy or something, if
you even are a
cop. . .
More proof you don't have a clue......
The fact that you don't think there are triggers tells me you don't know a
THING about being a cop....and probably don't know any cops.....
You sound like a wannabee....some guy who thinks being a cop is an 8 hr
adrenaline rush....believe me, it isn't....
Well, troll, it's been nice trading blows with you. If you want the
last word or whatever,
take it. I won't be replying after this. I trust the opinions and
facts told to me by REAL
LE people, not some punk who is probably a 12 year old video game
addict.
LOLOLOL.....you need to get those "real LE" out of your fantasies and talk to
REAL cops.....but I don't have much fear that you'll ever become a police
officer.....there is no way YOU'D ever pass the psych test.....you did know
that there is one, don't you? Certainly with your wonderful CJ degree, you'd
know THAT!!!
Anyway, your comments were totally predictable.......go back to your job
writing ficting......
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