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Why else would he keep referring to her as the victim.
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28682~1926785,00.html
Chief Judge Terry Ruckriegle ruled the notes, apparently referring to the
mannerisms of the accuser in making statements to investigators, fall under
the secrecy provisions of victim-advocate privilege.
"It is clear ... that these notes were a record made in conjunction with the
work the advocate is doing with the victim," Ruckriegle wrote in his ruling
issued in advance of a two-day pre-trial hearing that begins Monday.
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"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Why else would he keep referring to her as the victim.
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the accuser's
name in court.
Probably, the judge has access to the evidence and misspoke in a premature
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
Ya jus' never know.
Chas
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"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the
accuser's
name in court.
of course, we *expect* the defense team and prosecution to have biases; they
shouldn't be tolerated from the judge, however.
Probably, the judge has access to the evidence and misspoke in a premature
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
which of course is prejudicial and anathema to our "fair" legal system.
Ya jus' never know.
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"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the
accuser's
name in court.
Probably, the judge has access to the evidence and misspoke in a premature
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
If that's true, he should recuse himself.
Otherwise, a mistrial is inevitable, when the defense reveals what happened.
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redSPAMhat.com> wrote
Otherwise, a mistrial is inevitable, when the defense reveals what
happened.
From all indications, so's a guilty verdict.
They sure are trying to suppress a lot of evidence, aren't they?
c.
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"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the
accuser's
name in court.
Probably, the judge has access to the evidence and misspoke in a premature
While we're on the subject. I hope Kobe has found help for his premature
ejaculation problem.
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
Ya jus' never know.
Chas
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accuser's
While we're on the subject. I hope Kobe has found help for his premature
ejaculation problem.
He did. There's all kinds of treatments for it...go to this link for more
information: http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band69/b69-6.html
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
Ya jus' never know.
Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redSPAMhat.com> wrote
happened.
From all indications, so's a guilty verdict.
They sure are trying to suppress a lot of evidence, aren't they?
If I had a high powered defense team, they better challenge every possible
piece of evidence they can.
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"Jon C" <news@jonnythan.com> wrote
If I had a high powered defense team, they better challenge every possible
piece of evidence they can.
This is the best defense lawfirm available in the State- they are the ones
representing the Ramsey's in the Jon Benet case.
Chas
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"Jon C" <news@jonnythan.com> wrote
This is the best defense lawfirm available in the State- they are the ones
representing the Ramsey's in the Jon Benet case.
Opinion.
Chas
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
This is the best defense lawfirm available in the State- they are the
ones
representing the Ramsey's in the Jon Benet case.
Opinion.
Yeah; a well-informed one.
Name a better; ___________________
Chas
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
This is the best defense lawfirm available in the State- they are the
ones
representing the Ramsey's in the Jon Benet case.
Yeah; a well-informed one.
And you base your opinion on what? The Ramsey's? I think many law firms in
Colorado state would strongly disagree. It's an opinion like I said.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote in news:Za0Tb.3447$1O.2431@fed1read05:
Opinion.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:HOZSb.3422$1O.826@fed1read05...
He did. There's all kinds of treatments for it...go to this link for more
information: http://www.jr2.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/band69/b69-6.html
Hes sure glad you could help him out and Im not speaking about Kobe.
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
Ya jus' never know.
Chas
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
And you base your opinion on what? The Ramsey's? I think many law firms in
Colorado state would strongly disagree.
Name three.
c.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Name three.
Take your pick...you gave an opinion not fact. If you don't know the
difference, then there's no sense in debating the issue.
http://www.cobar.org/directory/search.cfm?nextrow=1&areas=7&state=CO&language=All&admitstate=All
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Take your pick...you gave an opinion not fact. If you don't know the
difference, then there's no sense in debating the issue.
Oh, I'm sorry.
You had a little stupid point to make, didn't you?
Well; you win- go put a gold star next your name on the refrigerator door.
c.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Oh, I'm sorry.
You had a little stupid point to make, didn't you?
Well; you win- go put a gold star next your name on the refrigerator door.
Just hate to be wrong don't you? What you said was opinion not fact,
regardless of how long you hold your breath.
c.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Oh, I'm sorry.
You had a little stupid point to make, didn't you?
Well; you win- go put a gold star next your name on the refrigerator
door.
Just hate to be wrong don't you? What you said was opinion not fact,
regardless of how long you hold your breath.
An opinion/fact you have yet to speak to-
If you simply have some Korszybskian question about semantic levels of
abstraction or the understood generality, I assure you that most people here
are comfortable with them as a discursive given.
Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redSPAMhat.com> wrote
happened.
From all indications, so's a guilty verdict.
Won't matter -- mistrial throws it out.
They sure are trying to suppress a lot of evidence, aren't they?
The prosecution? Sure as hell are.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Oh, I'm sorry.
You had a little stupid point to make, didn't you?
Well; you win- go put a gold star next your name on the refrigerator
door.
An opinion/fact you have yet to speak to-
If you simply have some Korszybskian question about semantic levels of
abstraction or the understood generality, I assure you that most people
here
are comfortable with them as a discursive given.
What you said was opinion not fact.
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redSPAMhat.com> wrote
Otherwise, a mistrial is inevitable, when the defense reveals what
happened.
From all indications, so's a guilty verdict.
Won't matter -- mistrial throws it out.
Hey- a mistrial is as good as a not guilty verdict. That's why Haddon gets
the big money.
They sure are trying to suppress a lot of evidence, aren't they?
The prosecution? Sure as hell are.
I thought it was the Defense that was interested in suppressing Kobe's
statements immediately after the incident happened. Seems to me they wanted
to suppress the statements of his entourage also, didn't they?
All of the misdirection about t-shirts and security questions is just smoke
and mirrors, as regards whether he raped her or not. I wouldn't be surprised
to see him dancing on his SUV next time, and complaining that he got locked
in a bathroom.
Chas
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Chas wrote:
"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the accuser's
name in court.
This is a ridiculous comparison. The attorneys are supposed to be
advocates for the parties; the judge is supposed ot be impartial. He
should be publicly reprimanded for this conduct, but given another chance
before being removed from the bench entirely.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"We need to tighten this up; you go down to the Mexico-California
border on any given night and put on a pair of night-vision goggles,
it looks like the start of the Boston Marathon."
-- Dennis Miller
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Chas wrote:
"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redSPAMhat.com> wrote
happened.
From all indications, so's a guilty verdict.
They sure are trying to suppress a lot of evidence, aren't they?
Hmmm, police and medical records, past false rape accusations, dragging the
feet on evcidence testing...yes, Hurlbert and gang certainly are. Wonder
why?
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"We need to tighten this up; you go down to the Mexico-California
border on any given night and put on a pair of night-vision goggles,
it looks like the start of the Boston Marathon."
-- Dennis Miller
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote
This is a ridiculous comparison. The attorneys are supposed to be
advocates for the parties; the judge is supposed ot be impartial. He
should be publicly reprimanded for this conduct, but given another chance
before being removed from the bench entirely.
yeah; Dog forbid that he says some woman isn't 'a day at the beach'.
heinous!
Chas
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Why else would he keep referring to her as the victim.
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36~28682~1926785,00.html
Chief Judge Terry Ruckriegle ruled the notes, apparently referring to the
mannerisms of the accuser in making statements to investigators, fall
under
the secrecy provisions of victim-advocate privilege.
"It is clear ... that these notes were a record made in conjunction with
the
work the advocate is doing with the victim," Ruckriegle wrote in his
ruling
issued in advance of a two-day pre-trial hearing that begins Monday.
I wonder if he will receive a reprimand. He's a judge, he knows better than
to refer to her as anything other than either the plaintiff or the alleged
victim.
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"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote
Just a slip of the tongue; like Pamela Mackey kept having with the
accuser's
name in court.
Probably, the judge has access to the evidence and misspoke in a premature
expression of the expectation of Kobe being proven guilty.
Ya jus' never know.
Chas
Totally different situation. Kobe's lawyer is on his side, the judge is
supposed to be impartial.
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here
What you said was opinion not fact.
I think commercials a long time ago decided you can use the word best to
describe a product while there was objection to using the word better.
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accuser's
While we're on the subject. I hope Kobe has found help for his premature
ejaculation problem.
Why would you think that? I doubt he was interested in trying to please a
one night stand. What man is interested in doing that? I think most
younger men do climax quicker, but they just do it all over again if it is
someone they are interested in.
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In article <101ulhksilth2f6@news.supernews.com>,
KLM <nonospammer@com.com> wrote:
Why would you think that? I doubt he was interested in trying to please a
one night stand. What man is interested in doing that?
Male basher. (Believe it or not, some men are.)
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In article <101ulhksilth2f6@news.supernews.com>,
KLM <nonospammer@com.com> wrote:
Male basher. (Believe it or not, some men are.)
You are a male basher?????
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In article <101vt8g7742995c@news.supernews.com>,
KLM <nonospammer@com.com> wrote:
"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
You are a male basher?????
Believe it or not, some men are interested in trying to please
a one night stand. Not you or anyone you know, perhaps, but
nevertheless. You may want to consider expanding your horizons
a bit.
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"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote
Believe it or not, some men are interested in trying to please
a one night stand. Not you or anyone you know, perhaps, but
nevertheless. You may want to consider expanding your horizons
a bit.
It's true.
Every woman knows every other woman, and they talk.
If you all have a happy time, the good word spreads and one may find the
girl of his dreams when her turn comes- until then, they're *all*
'one-night-stands'.
God bless'em; like little rays of sunshine amongst the bleak days of beer,
sports and working on the truck.
Chas
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In article <101vt8g7742995c@news.supernews.com>,
KLM <nonospammer@com.com> wrote:
Believe it or not, some men are interested in trying to please
a one night stand. Not you or anyone you know, perhaps, but
nevertheless. You may want to consider expanding your horizons
a bit.
Good grief. Who is talking about me or anyone I know? I am giving a reason
for Kobe's so-called premature ejaculation. I doubt he was interested in
pleasing the girl. Please differentiate when we are talking about Kobe or
when we are talking about ourselves. Someone bashed Kobe, so I gave a
reasonable explanation. You do not say someone is a premature ejaculator
when you only know of one encounter. We aren't talking about you or me, but
the guy who referred to Kobe.
I happen to think men are fantastic.
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"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote
It's true.
Every woman knows every other woman, and they talk.
If you all have a happy time, the good word spreads and one may find the
girl of his dreams when her turn comes- until then, they're *all*
'one-night-stands'.
God bless'em; like little rays of sunshine amongst the bleak days of beer,
sports and working on the truck.
Chas
Ass/u/me. There is a reason they say not to do it.
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In article <101ulhksilth2f6@news.supernews.com>,
KLM <nonospammer@com.com> wrote:
Male basher. (Believe it or not, some men are.)
What the Judge thinks matters little or nothing! He does not determine the
facts of the case. That is the realm of the Jury.
The Jury decides if the Law was broken, if the Law applies to a certian case,
and the Jury can if it wishes to disreguard the Law in it's determination
process.
All things being as they should be!
If you don't believe me check out the fully informed Jury Assoc.
www.fija.org
Robert Miller
Member of www.norfed.org
Bringing America back to value $1 at a time!
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KLM wrote:
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Good grief. Who is talking about me or anyone I know? I am giving a reason
for Kobe's so-called premature ejaculation.
You mean his non-ejaculation, right? His previous ejaculation must have
been pretty premature, since she wasn't there :)
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he
thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
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