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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no" during their encounter. "You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a book that examines the case against the basketball star. "I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker. "It was consensual." "Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant replied after his long pause. The controversial back-and-forth is among the statements defense attorneys will press a judge in Eagle, Colo., today to toss out. The lawyers say the L.A. Lakers guard had not been read his rights when he was questioned. But through interviews, court papers and other public documents, Shapiro's tell-all drops several new bombshells: The accuser slept with a hotel bellman, a key prosecution witness, just two days before the Bryant incident, raising damaging questions about his testimony. The bellman at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, Bobby Pietrack, was one of two men other than Bryant whom the victim had sex with in the days before the alleged attack. Bryant growled, "Yeah, I like Colorado," as he allegedly raped her. The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes various sexual acts Bryant demanded. The author told the Daily News, which obtained exclusive rights to publish excerpts of his book, that he wrote to clear up a lot of "misinformation" about the case and to give the victim a fair shake. "I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly." The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National Basketball Association All-Star, who Shapiro says ordered the teenager to keep quiet about the alleged attack. "You're not going to tell anyone about this, are you?" Bryant barked. "No," she replied. Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops. But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to trash his credibility. The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that she simply put on an unclean pair. The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former boyfriend and Pietrack.
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no" during their encounter. "You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a book that examines the case against the basketball star.
1) I have the right to remain silent. 2) I have the right not to answer any questions put forth before me without the consul of an attorney. 3) I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I may incriminate myself. No law says I have to answer the questions. No law says I have to answer any question in a given amount of time. Mr. Shapiro has no business writing a book on the case before it's been to trial and decided. Specially making the contents public. From what's been printed here, it's obvious Mr. Shapiro has the belief that Bryant is guilty. Now let's face the facts here. Bryant arrives at the hotel at 10:00pm. He is scheduled to have knee surgery the following morning. Within two hours he's heavily engaged in sexual encounters with a local girl who is not known to be a prostitute? Get real people. The girl is pissed off at her boyfriend for not paying attention to her. Since she works at the hotel, she finds out Bryant has come to town. Bryant is black. What better way to get attention from her boyfriend than to stir up trouble with a famous black guy? She uses some ploy to go knock on his door. "House keeping Mr. Bryant. I wanted to bring you some fresh towels." Or what ever. While in the room, she makes the move on Bryant. Finding out quickly he's in town for knee surgery, she figures she's not gonna get any action out of him. Less than two hours after his arrival he's having sex with some strange girl in a strange town? I don't think so. If he was looking for sex, why didn't go to vail or one of the other major ski resort hotels? Because this hotel had a spa which fits in nicely with his knee problem. To further complicate things, Bryant is accompanied by three male associates. Where were these three guys all this time? Did they suddenly vanish into thin air? Nearly 24 hours after the alleged event, the investigators show up to question. What happened in those nearly 12 hours from the time the accuser reported the incident to the time Bryant was finally questioned? Then why did the Sheriff obtain an arrest warrant without due process? That is, seating the grand jury and having them decide if their is sufficient cause for a warrant. Mistakes have been made in this case that will most certainly see Mr. Bryant found "not guilty" and not an acquittal. Wonder if they would have done the same for Larry Byrd? Or if Bryant had been a white boy.
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com...
s_knight8 wrote: She uses some ploy to go knock on his door. "House keeping Mr. Bryant. I wanted to bring you some fresh towels." Or what ever.
Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel rooms? Which seems sensible to me. Alex
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Alex wrote:
"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com... Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel rooms? Which seems sensible to me.
Alex
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for. The hotel would probably not reprimand an employee for merely wanting an autograph, but going to a guests room at midnight? Uninvited? Or was she uninvited?
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"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<401f5f2f$0$31639$abc4f4c3@news.wanadoo.nl>...
"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com... Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel rooms? Which seems sensible to me. Alex
She sounds like a real slut puppy. Even so, if she said no, legally it was rape. One wonders if the court could dismiss her complaint on the principle that the court does not concern itself with trivialities such as her bodily integrity or moral outrage.-Jitney
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Wonder if they would have done the same for Larry Byrd? Or if Bryant had been a white boy.
Are you saying he would have been better off at the famous Harlem Spa? Tricking with a black chick? How racist. c.
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest, she did it. She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at their beck and call. That's what Concierge means. Chas
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jitney wrote:
"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<401f5f2f$0$31639$abc4f4c3@news.wanadoo.nl>... She sounds like a real slut puppy. Even so, if she said no, legally it was rape.
Cow#@($! She went to his room for sex, according to HER story, and she got sex. SHE was responsible for her actions. No rape involved. The lot of them deserve to be horsewhipped for filing false charges.
One wonders if the court could dismiss her complaint on the principle that the court does not concern itself with trivialities such as her bodily integrity or moral outrage.-Jitney
Yes, the whole matter is a moral outrage, but don't expect the DA, Sheriff, and slut to ever be held responsible. Bob -- When did we divide into sides? "As president, I will put American government and our legal system back on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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s_knight8 wrote:
"Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant replied after his long pause.
Well, at least the he said and she said agreed on this point.
The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
Funny how she said she never said no in police interviews immediately after. Did she lie to police with no motive to lie at the time, or is this, with a lot of motive to paint a convincing picture later, the lie?
"I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly." The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National Basketball Association All-Star
There you have it, some of it may be true but if you read it realize you are reading the propaganda of one side, much as if one of Kobe's friends put out a book. -- Gary Collard SABR-L Moderator gmcollard@yahoo.com "I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest, she did it. She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at their beck and call. That's what Concierge means.
Concierge (n) A staff member of a hotel or apartment complex who assists guests or residents, as by handling the storage of luggage, taking and delivering messages, and making reservations for tours. http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0547900.html It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in their rooms.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Concierge (n) A staff member of a hotel or apartment complex who assists guests or residents, as by handling the storage of luggage, taking and delivering messages, and making reservations for tours. http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0547900.html It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in their rooms.
What do you think 'delivering messages' means? The Concierge does all sorts of errands for guests, not just those mentioned in the short definition- but thanks for proving my point. c.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same thing....is that what you think?
The Concierge does all sorts of errands for guests, not just those
mentioned
in the short definition- but thanks for proving my point. c.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same
thing....is
that what you think?
The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the Concierge- same with a request for services. Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there would be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is chartered to do exactly that. Chas
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote What do you think 'delivering messages' means? thing....is The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the Concierge- same with a request for services. Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
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be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is chartered to do exactly that.
That's all well and good, but she didn't go there to deliver a message. She went there to flirt with a basketball star.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no" during their encounter. "You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a book that examines the case against the basketball star. "I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker. "It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual? Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes.
"Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant replied after his long pause. The controversial back-and-forth is among the statements defense attorneys will press a judge in Eagle, Colo., today to toss out. The lawyers say the L.A. Lakers guard had not been read his rights when he was questioned. But through interviews, court papers and other public documents, Shapiro's tell-all drops several new bombshells: The accuser slept with a hotel bellman, a key prosecution witness, just two days before the Bryant incident, raising damaging questions about his testimony. The bellman at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, Bobby Pietrack, was one of two men other than Bryant whom the victim had sex with in the days before the alleged attack. Bryant growled, "Yeah, I like Colorado," as he allegedly raped her. The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes various sexual acts Bryant demanded. The author told the Daily News, which obtained exclusive rights to publish excerpts of his book, that he wrote to clear up a lot of "misinformation" about the case and to give the victim a fair shake. "I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly." The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National Basketball Association All-Star, who Shapiro says ordered the teenager to keep quiet about the alleged attack. "You're not going to tell anyone about this, are you?" Bryant barked.
Nobody will ever know you have a small cock and you come too fast.
"No," she replied. Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops. But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to trash his credibility. The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that she simply put on an unclean pair. The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former boyfriend and Pietrack.
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote What do you think 'delivering messages' means? thing....is The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the Concierge- same with a request for services.
You are now saying "visiting" and "going" to a guests room are the same thing...they are not. Friends visit each other...a concierge as you said works for the hotel...therefore they are not your *friend*, and they don't* visit* you. They "go" to your room...take care of the business they are there for, and leave.
Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
would
be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is chartered to do exactly that. Chas
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht news:bvod4501hp0@enews2.newsguy.com...
Alex wrote: She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
And that's where the "she was just giving Kobe a tour" argument falls flat. She was off-duty, it was the middle of the night, and she _still_ made it to Kobe's hotelroom. She should have been tired and headed home.
The hotel would probably not reprimand an employee for merely wanting an autograph, but going to a guests room at midnight? Uninvited? Or was she uninvited?
Right. And how would Kobe know to invite her? Unless she made herself available got Kobe to notice her. Alex
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"Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:FvedncVL0t5Hwr3dRVn-vw@comcast.com...
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea what some women find erotic. :-)
Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes.
Seems to me she had weeks to get warmed up. Alex
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to provide a service of the hotel.
That's all well and good, but she didn't go there to deliver a message.
She told the other employee that she had 'one more errand' as she clocked out.
She went there to flirt with a basketball star.
At least she was authorized to be there <g> Chas
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote in news:Q1XTb.9390$1O.5893@fed1read05:
It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in their rooms.
If I looked up your job in the dictionary, would your entire actual job description be there? -- --Robert
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:00:43 -0800, "Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> blurted:
You are now saying "visiting" and "going" to a guests room are the same thing...they are not. Friends visit each other...a concierge as you said works for the hotel...therefore they are not your *friend*, and they don't* visit* you. They "go" to your room...take care of the business they are there for, and leave.
And that she did. She took care of BIDness Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
would
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On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:44:10 GMT, Gary Collard <garycollard@netscape.net> blurted:
s_knight8 wrote: Well, at least the he said and she said agreed on this point.
They don't. The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
Funny how she said she never said no in police interviews immediately after. Did she lie to police with no motive to lie at the time, or is this, with a lot of motive to paint a convincing picture later, the lie?
She believes everything she's saying so how can they be lies? "I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly." The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National Basketball Association All-Star
There you have it, some of it may be true but if you read it realize you are reading the propaganda of one side, much as if one of Kobe's friends put out a book.
Obviously.
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:56:54 -0600, "Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> blurted:
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual? Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes. Nobody will ever know you have a small cock and you come too fast.
Yur pretty dammmmmm sik, Jeffrey "No," she replied. Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops. But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to trash his credibility. The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that she simply put on an unclean pair. The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former boyfriend and Pietrack.
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"Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no" during their encounter. "You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a book that examines the case against the basketball star. "I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker. "It was consensual." How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic? I don't think I'll be bending a woman over a chair and @$#*ing her for five minutes in an attempt to turn her on. I would end up being someone's jail house #@&@ just like Kobe. And yes, I do know what happened. She was hoping to get some all night big black cock. He @$#*ed her for five minutes and blew his wad. She was nowhere near having an orgasm. He said "get your skanky white ass out of here, I got to get some sleep" as he's throwing her and her clothes out into the hallway.
Seems to me she had weeks to get warmed up. Alex
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
"It was consensual." How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual? You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic?
Be a moron, but don't be a @$#*ing moron. No such implication was present. What Alex "implied" is explicitly spelled out -- that some women might find it erotic to be "bento over a chair and @$#*ed for five minutes". If you can't see the difference between that and rape, please stay away from women.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first
asked him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no" during their encounter. "You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a book that examines the case against the basketball star. "I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker. "It was consensual." How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual? You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic? I don't think I'll be bending a woman over a chair and @$#*ing her for five minutes in an attempt to turn her on. I would end up being someone's jail house #@&@ just like Kobe. And yes, I do know what happened. She was hoping to get some all night big black cock. He @$#*ed her for five minutes and blew his wad. She was nowhere near having an orgasm. He said "get your skanky white ass out of here, I got to get some sleep" as he's throwing her and her clothes out into the hallway.
Says a lot about soc men in general though. td
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[...] "It was consensual." How many women out there would find being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual? You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea what some women find erotic. :-) So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic? [...]
Says a lot about soc men in general though.
Says a lot about Tiny Dancer -- that you're willing to agree to the premise that "being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for five minutes" is identical to "being raped".
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Raqui wrote:
I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same thing....is that what you think?
Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the door of the room - but not in! -- Gary Collard SABR-L Moderator gmcollard@yahoo.com "I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote
Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the door of the room - but not in!
The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering messages'. If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with working the vcr, or whatever. If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel, special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very likely counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a guests room on behalf of hotel business. Chas
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Raqui wrote: Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the door of the room - but not in!
UPS and Federal Express *deliver* packages everyday...they are not visiting. And are you Chas? I ask that because you keep answering questions I've posed for Chas.
-- Gary Collard SABR-L Moderator gmcollard@yahoo.com "I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering
messages'.
If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with
working
the vcr, or whatever. If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel, special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very
likely
counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a guests room on behalf of hotel business.
But where does it say she was there on "hotel" business? Let's not speculate on the duties and definition of concierge. I didn't think she was on hotel business when she was in his room. This is what I responded to...let's keep things in focus, shall we: Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
You responded by saying this: She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest, she did it. She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at their beck and call. That's what Concierge means. Chas Ok...we're back on track....was she running an errand for Kobe?
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"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
But where does it say she was there on "hotel" business?
In her corroborated report that says she identified that she had 'one more errand' as she clocked out. One may speculate about it, but she certainly was authorized to be where she was. Chas
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering
messages'.
If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with
working
the vcr, or whatever. If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel, special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very
likely
counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a guests room on behalf of hotel business. Chas
On one of the programs last night a concierge said 'that if one of the guests wanted a particular type of avian water, and they didn't have it at the hotel, the concierge was supposed to go to town and find it for the guest'. Their duties consist of whatever a high profile guest might want. td
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