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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8)
2/2/2004 7:17:14 PM


http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked
him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no"
during their encounter.
"You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a
book that examines the case against the basketball star.
"I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex
barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker.
"It was consensual."
"Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant
replied after his long pause.
The controversial back-and-forth is among the statements defense
attorneys will press a judge in Eagle, Colo., today to toss out. The
lawyers say the L.A. Lakers guard had not been read his rights when he
was questioned.
But through interviews, court papers and other public documents,
Shapiro's tell-all drops several new bombshells:
The accuser slept with a hotel bellman, a key prosecution witness,
just two days before the Bryant incident, raising damaging questions
about his testimony.
The bellman at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, Bobby Pietrack, was
one of two men other than Bryant whom the victim had sex with in the
days before the alleged attack.
Bryant growled, "Yeah, I like Colorado," as he allegedly raped her.
The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes
various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
The author told the Daily News, which obtained exclusive rights to
publish excerpts of his book, that he wrote to clear up a lot of
"misinformation" about the case and to give the victim a fair shake.
"I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this
woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly."
The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National
Basketball Association All-Star, who Shapiro says ordered the teenager
to keep quiet about the alleged attack.
"You're not going to tell anyone about this, are you?" Bryant barked.
"No," she replied.
Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had
happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for
comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops.
But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together
just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how
Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to
trash his credibility.
The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations
about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam
wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that
she simply put on an unclean pair.
The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex
partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former
boyfriend and Pietrack.
 
 
"Richard"
2/3/2004 12:53:13 AM


s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked
him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no"
during their encounter.
"You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a
book that examines the case against the basketball star.
1) I have the right to remain silent.
2) I have the right not to answer any questions put forth before me without
the consul of an attorney.
3) I refuse to answer that question on the grounds that I may incriminate
myself.
No law says I have to answer the questions. No law says I have to answer any
question in a given amount of time.
Mr. Shapiro has no business writing a book on the case before it's been to
trial and decided.
Specially making the contents public.
From what's been printed here, it's obvious Mr. Shapiro has the belief that
Bryant is guilty.
Now let's face the facts here.
Bryant arrives at the hotel at 10:00pm.
He is scheduled to have knee surgery the following morning.
Within two hours he's heavily engaged in sexual encounters with a local girl
who is not known to be a prostitute?
Get real people.
The girl is pissed off at her boyfriend for not paying attention to her.
Since she works at the hotel, she finds out Bryant has come to town.
Bryant is black. What better way to get attention from her boyfriend than to
stir up trouble with a famous black guy?
She uses some ploy to go knock on his door.
"House keeping Mr. Bryant. I wanted to bring you some fresh towels."
Or what ever.
While in the room, she makes the move on Bryant.
Finding out quickly he's in town for knee surgery, she figures she's not
gonna get any action out of him.
Less than two hours after his arrival he's having sex with some strange girl
in a strange town?
I don't think so.
If he was looking for sex, why didn't go to vail or one of the other major
ski resort hotels?
Because this hotel had a spa which fits in nicely with his knee problem.
To further complicate things, Bryant is accompanied by three male
associates.
Where were these three guys all this time?
Did they suddenly vanish into thin air?
Nearly 24 hours after the alleged event, the investigators show up to
question.
What happened in those nearly 12 hours from the time the accuser reported
the incident to the time Bryant was finally questioned?
Then why did the Sheriff obtain an arrest warrant without due process?
That is, seating the grand jury and having them decide if their is
sufficient cause for a warrant.
Mistakes have been made in this case that will most certainly see Mr. Bryant
found "not guilty" and not an acquittal.
Wonder if they would have done the same for Larry Byrd?
Or if Bryant had been a white boy.
 
 
"Alex"
2/3/2004 9:37:58 AM


"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht
news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com...
s_knight8 wrote:
She uses some ploy to go knock on his door.
"House keeping Mr. Bryant. I wanted to bring you some fresh towels."
Or what ever.
Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel
rooms? Which seems sensible to me.
Alex
 
 
"Richard"
2/3/2004 9:03:14 AM


Alex wrote:
"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht
news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com...
Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel
rooms? Which seems sensible to me.
Alex
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between
that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
The hotel would probably not reprimand an employee for merely wanting an
autograph, but going to a guests room at midnight? Uninvited?
Or was she uninvited?
 
 
jtnospam@yahoo.com (jitney)
2/3/2004 9:07:07 AM


"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<401f5f2f$0$31639$abc4f4c3@news.wanadoo.nl>...
"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht
news:bvngdc025mn@enews3.newsguy.com...
Aren't staff forbidden from visiting guests in their hotel
rooms? Which seems sensible to me.
Alex
She sounds like a real slut puppy. Even so, if she said no, legally it
was rape. One wonders if the court could dismiss her complaint on the
principle that the court does not concern itself with trivialities
such as her bodily integrity or moral outrage.-Jitney
 
 
"Chas"
2/3/2004 10:22:30 AM


"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Wonder if they would have done the same for Larry Byrd?
Or if Bryant had been a white boy.
Are you saying he would have been better off at the famous Harlem Spa?
Tricking with a black chick?
How racist.
c.
 
 
"Chas"
2/3/2004 10:25:26 AM


"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between
that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest,
she did it.
She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no
question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at
their beck and call. That's what Concierge means.
Chas
 
 
Bob
2/3/2004 10:45:49 AM


jitney wrote:
"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message news:<401f5f2f$0$31639$abc4f4c3@news.wanadoo.nl>...
She sounds like a real slut puppy. Even so, if she said no, legally it
was rape.
Cow#@($! She went to his room for sex, according to HER story, and she
got sex. SHE was responsible for her actions. No rape involved.
The lot of them deserve to be horsewhipped for filing false charges.
One wonders if the court could dismiss her complaint on the
principle that the court does not concern itself with trivialities
such as her bodily integrity or moral outrage.-Jitney
Yes, the whole matter is a moral outrage, but don't expect the DA,
Sheriff, and slut to ever be held responsible.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
 
 
Gary Collard
2/3/2004 7:44:10 PM


s_knight8 wrote:
"Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant
replied after his long pause.
Well, at least the he said and she said agreed on this point.
The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes
various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
Funny how she said she never said no in police interviews immediately
after. Did she lie to police with no motive to lie at the time, or is
this, with a lot of motive to paint a convincing picture later, the lie?
"I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this
woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly."
The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National
Basketball Association All-Star
There you have it, some of it may be true but if you read it realize you
are reading the propaganda of one side, much as if one of Kobe's friends
put out a book.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he
thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
 
 
"Raqui"
2/3/2004 4:29:24 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:EcOdnRPFkYoYRILdRVn-uQ@comcast.com...

"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest,
she did it.
She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no
question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at
their beck and call. That's what Concierge means.
Concierge (n)
A staff member of a hotel or apartment complex who assists guests or
residents, as by handling the storage of luggage, taking and delivering
messages, and making reservations for tours.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0547900.html
It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in their
rooms.
 
 
"Chas"
2/3/2004 6:11:19 PM


"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
Concierge (n)
A staff member of a hotel or apartment complex who assists guests or
residents, as by handling the storage of luggage, taking and delivering
messages, and making reservations for tours.
http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0547900.html
It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in their
rooms.
What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
The Concierge does all sorts of errands for guests, not just those mentioned
in the short definition- but thanks for proving my point.
c.
 
 
"Raqui"
2/3/2004 5:48:42 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:A-SdnVDMs4cq273dRVn-uw@comcast.com...

"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same thing....is
that what you think?
The Concierge does all sorts of errands for guests, not just those
mentioned
in the short definition- but thanks for proving my point.
c.
 
 
"Chas"
2/3/2004 7:35:28 PM


"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same
thing....is
that what you think?
The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to
provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the
hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the
Concierge- same with a request for services.
Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there would
be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is
chartered to do exactly that.
Chas
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
2/4/2004 2:40:59 AM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pYednZ0DXcXtx73dRVn-ug@comcast.com...

"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
thing....is
The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to
provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the
hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the
Concierge- same with a request for services.
Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
would
be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is
chartered to do exactly that.
That's all well and good, but she didn't go there to deliver a message.
She went there to flirt with a basketball star.
 
 
"Jeff Davis"
2/3/2004 8:56:54 PM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6bd12cd6.0402021917.634e434d@posting.google.com...

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked
him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no"
during their encounter.
"You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a
book that examines the case against the basketball star.
"I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex
barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker.
"It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes.
"Did she ever say 'no'?" the investigator pressed. "No," Bryant
replied after his long pause.
The controversial back-and-forth is among the statements defense
attorneys will press a judge in Eagle, Colo., today to toss out. The
lawyers say the L.A. Lakers guard had not been read his rights when he
was questioned.
But through interviews, court papers and other public documents,
Shapiro's tell-all drops several new bombshells:
The accuser slept with a hotel bellman, a key prosecution witness,
just two days before the Bryant incident, raising damaging questions
about his testimony.
The bellman at the Lodge and Spa at Cordillera, Bobby Pietrack, was
one of two men other than Bryant whom the victim had sex with in the
days before the alleged attack.
Bryant growled, "Yeah, I like Colorado," as he allegedly raped her.
The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes
various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
The author told the Daily News, which obtained exclusive rights to
publish excerpts of his book, that he wrote to clear up a lot of
"misinformation" about the case and to give the victim a fair shake.
"I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this
woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly."
The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National
Basketball Association All-Star, who Shapiro says ordered the teenager
to keep quiet about the alleged attack.
"You're not going to tell anyone about this, are you?" Bryant barked.
Nobody will ever know you have a small cock and you come too fast.
"No," she replied.
Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had
happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for
comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops.
But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together
just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how
Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to
trash his credibility.
The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations
about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam
wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that
she simply put on an unclean pair.
The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex
partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former
boyfriend and Pietrack.
 
 
"Raqui"
2/3/2004 7:00:43 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pYednZ0DXcXtx73dRVn-ug@comcast.com...

"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
What do you think 'delivering messages' means?
thing....is
The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to
provide a service of the hotel. The Concierge is the liaison between the
hotel and the guest- when you have a problem with the hotel, you call the
Concierge- same with a request for services.
You are now saying "visiting" and "going" to a guests room are the same
thing...they are not. Friends visit each other...a concierge as you said
works for the hotel...therefore they are not your *friend*, and they don't*
visit* you. They "go" to your room...take care of the business they are
there for, and leave.
Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
would
be a question about her being in a guest's room- but the Concierge is
chartered to do exactly that.
Chas
 
 
"Alex"
2/4/2004 4:47:40 AM


"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> schreef in bericht news:bvod4501hp0@enews2.newsguy.com...
Alex wrote:
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between
that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
And that's where the "she was just giving Kobe a tour" argument
falls flat. She was off-duty, it was the middle of the night, and she
_still_ made it to Kobe's hotelroom.
She should have been tired and headed home.
The hotel would probably not reprimand an employee for merely wanting an
autograph, but going to a guests room at midnight? Uninvited?
Or was she uninvited?
Right. And how would Kobe know to invite her?
Unless she made herself available got Kobe to
notice her.
Alex
 
 
"Alex"
2/4/2004 4:51:16 AM


"Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:FvedncVL0t5Hwr3dRVn-vw@comcast.com...


"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea
what some women find erotic. :-)
Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes.
Seems to me she had weeks to get warmed up.
Alex
 
 
"Chas"
2/3/2004 10:18:05 PM


"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
The Concierge is *precisely* who would visit a guests room in order to
provide a service of the hotel.
That's all well and good, but she didn't go there to deliver a message.
She told the other employee that she had 'one more errand' as she clocked
out.
She went there to flirt with a basketball star.
At least she was authorized to be there <g>
Chas
 
 
Robert Lee
2/4/2004 7:06:38 AM


"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote in news:Q1XTb.9390$1O.5893@fed1read05:
It doesn't say anything about authorization to visit with guests in
their rooms.
If I looked up your job in the dictionary, would your entire actual job
description be there?
--
--Robert
 
 
Ruben Patterson and Chris Mihm Both Posterized Snaq
2/4/2004 10:13:40 AM


On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:00:43 -0800, "Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> blurted:


"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:pYednZ0DXcXtx73dRVn-ug@comcast.com...

You are now saying "visiting" and "going" to a guests room are the same
thing...they are not. Friends visit each other...a concierge as you said
works for the hotel...therefore they are not your *friend*, and they don't*
visit* you. They "go" to your room...take care of the business they are
there for, and leave.
And that she did. She took care of BIDness
Had she been a desk clerk, or a waitress in the cocktail lounge, there
would
 
 
Ruben Patterson and Chris Mihm Both Posterized Snaq
2/4/2004 10:16:56 AM


On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 19:44:10 GMT, Gary Collard <garycollard@netscape.net>
blurted:
s_knight8 wrote:
Well, at least the he said and she said agreed on this point.
They don't.
The accuser says she repeatedly shouted "no" and the book describes
various sexual acts Bryant demanded.
Funny how she said she never said no in police interviews immediately
after. Did she lie to police with no motive to lie at the time, or is
this, with a lot of motive to paint a convincing picture later, the lie?
She believes everything she's saying so how can they be lies?
"I wanted to clarify what really happened and what kind of person this
woman is," said Shapiro. "She's been persecuted and treated unfairly."
The book paints an unflattering portrait of the 6-foot-7 National
Basketball Association All-Star
There you have it, some of it may be true but if you read it realize you
are reading the propaganda of one side, much as if one of Kobe's friends
put out a book.
Obviously.
 
 
Ruben Patterson and Chris Mihm Both Posterized Snaq
2/4/2004 10:18:03 AM


On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 20:56:54 -0600, "Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> blurted:


"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6bd12cd6.0402021917.634e434d@posting.google.com...

How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
Women are just getting warmed up in the first five minutes.
Nobody will ever know you have a small cock and you come too fast.
Yur pretty dammmmmm sik, Jeffrey
"No," she replied.
Minutes later, the book alleges, she confided to Pietrack what had
happened in Bryant's room. Pietrack, who could not be reached for
comment last night, consoled her and urged her to call the cops.
But the book also says that Pietrack and the victim had slept together
just 48 hours before the alleged rape, and the book lays out how
Bryant defense attorney Pamela Mackey plans to use the revelation to
trash his credibility.
The book tries to explain away one of the most damning revelations
about the victim and the mystery of why she came for a rape exam
wearing panties stained with other men's semen. Shapiro writes that
she simply put on an unclean pair.
The News first reported the DNA evidence about her two other sex
partners last fall. The book identifies the two as her former
boyfriend and Pietrack.
 
 
"Jeff Davis"
2/4/2004 12:54:28 PM




"Alex" <avdeelen.REMOF@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
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"Jeff Davis" <luzer15@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first asked
him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said "no"
during their encounter.
"You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life," a
book that examines the case against the basketball star.
"I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex
barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker.
"It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea
what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic?
I don't think I'll be bending a woman over a chair and @$#*ing her
for five minutes in an attempt to turn her on. I would end up being
someone's jail house #@&@
just like Kobe.
And yes, I do know what happened. She was hoping to get some
all night big black cock. He @$#*ed her for five minutes and blew his
wad. She was nowhere near having an orgasm. He said "get
your skanky white ass out of here, I got to get some sleep" as
he's throwing her and her clothes out into the hallway.
Seems to me she had weeks to get warmed up.
Alex
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
2/4/2004 7:29:13 PM




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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
"It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea
what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic?
Be a moron, but don't be a @$#*ing moron. No such implication was
present. What Alex "implied" is explicitly spelled out -- that some
women might find it erotic to be "bento over a chair and @$#*ed for
five minutes". If you can't see the difference between that and rape,
please stay away from women.
 
 
"tinydancer"
2/4/2004 3:16:56 PM




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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/160623p-140879c.html
Kobe Bryant allegedly sat silent for 30 seconds when cops first
asked
him if a Colorado teenager who alleges he raped her had ever said
"no"
during their encounter.
"You're not answering the question," a detective told Bryant, author
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro writes in "Kobe Bryant: The Game of His Life,"
a book that examines the case against the basketball star.
"I'm thinking," said Bryant, who initially denied he had had sex
barely 24 hours earlier with the hotel worker.
"It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea
what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic?
I don't think I'll be bending a woman over a chair and @$#*ing her
for five minutes in an attempt to turn her on. I would end up being
someone's jail house #@&@
just like Kobe.
And yes, I do know what happened. She was hoping to get some
all night big black cock. He @$#*ed her for five minutes and blew his
wad. She was nowhere near having an orgasm. He said "get
your skanky white ass out of here, I got to get some sleep" as
he's throwing her and her clothes out into the hallway.
Says a lot about soc men in general though.
td
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
2/4/2004 9:39:23 PM




"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote in message
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[...]
"It was consensual."
How many women out there would find being bent over a chair
and @$#*ed for FIVE minutes consensual?
You have no idea what happened. You also have no idea
what some women find erotic. :-)
So what you're implying is, some women find being raped, erotic?
[...]
Says a lot about soc men in general though.
Says a lot about Tiny Dancer -- that you're willing to agree to the premise
that "being bent over a chair and @$#*ed for five minutes" is identical to
"being raped".
 
 
Gary Collard
2/4/2004 10:01:10 PM


Raqui wrote:


"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I don't think "delivering a message" and "visiting" are the same thing....is
that what you think?
Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way
on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the
door of the room - but not in!
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he
thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
 
 
"Chas"
2/4/2004 3:34:18 PM


"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote
Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way
on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the
door of the room - but not in!
The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering messages'.
If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the
Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with working
the vcr, or whatever.
If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel,
special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very likely
counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a
guests room on behalf of hotel business.
Chas
 
 
"Raqui"
2/4/2004 4:08:02 PM




"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote in message
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Raqui wrote:
Not at all - the delivery would be by phone, whole the guest is on the way
on, or very rarely (in the case of a fax, for example) by coming to the
door of the room - but not in!
UPS and Federal Express *deliver* packages everyday...they are not visiting.
And are you Chas? I ask that because you keep answering questions I've posed
for Chas.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I would've gone for 2" -- Carolina coach John Fox when asked what he
thought of Justin Timberlake exposing Janet Jackson's breast
 
 
"Raqui"
2/4/2004 4:14:47 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote
The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering
messages'.
If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the
Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with
working
the vcr, or whatever.
If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel,
special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very
likely
counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a
guests room on behalf of hotel business.
But where does it say she was there on "hotel" business? Let's not speculate
on the duties and definition of concierge. I didn't think she was on hotel
business when she was in his room. This is what I responded to...let's keep
things in focus, shall we:
Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote
She was off duty. Her shift ended at 2300 hours. There is a period between
that time and @ 0030 hours that isn't accounted for.
You responded by saying this:
She was the Concierge- if there was an errand to run on behalf of a guest,
she did it.
She told a co-worker that she had 'one more errand' before going home- no
question that she was authorized to visit with guests, in their rooms, at
their beck and call. That's what Concierge means.
Chas
Ok...we're back on track....was she running an errand for Kobe?
 
 
"Chas"
2/4/2004 5:21:49 PM


"Raqui" <WestCoast@TV.com> wrote
But where does it say she was there on "hotel" business?
In her corroborated report that says she identified that she had 'one more
errand' as she clocked out.
One may speculate about it, but she certainly was authorized to be where she
was.
Chas
 
 
"tinydancer"
2/4/2004 7:54:05 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsFLAME@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KrmdncPT3uX17rzd4p2dnA@comcast.com...

"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote
The job title isn't 'courier'. It's not restricted to 'delivering
messages'.
If a guest had trouble with the plumbing, the first one on scene is the
Concierge- particularly in the case of a prominent guest. Same with
working
the vcr, or whatever.
If he had transportation instructions, medical information for the hotel,
special needs after the operation- he'd call the Concierge, and very
likely
counsel in his room. The Concierge is the person *most likely* to go to a
guests room on behalf of hotel business.
Chas
On one of the programs last night a concierge said 'that if one of the
guests wanted a particular type of avian water, and they didn't have it at
the hotel, the concierge was supposed to go to town and find it for the
guest'. Their duties consist of whatever a high profile guest might want.
td