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We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left
them a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty
bad. My friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they
should pay my drycleaning bill.
The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so the -10
Is this theft or not?
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c0@earthlink.net wrote:
We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left
them a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty
bad. My friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they
should pay my drycleaning bill.
The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so the -10
Is this theft or not?
It's theft.
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We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left
them a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty
bad. My friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they
should pay my drycleaning bill.
The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so the -10
Is this theft or not?
IMO, not. Theft is unlawfully appropriating property with intent to deprive
the owner of the property. Based on your post, you had no intent to do so,
but were deducting an amount to offset damage done to your clothes and for
failing to deliver services in accord with your reasonable expectations.
They might have a civil claim for breach of contract, but you could
counterclaim
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We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left
them a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty
bad. My friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they
should pay my drycleaning bill.
The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so the -10
Is this theft or not?
How exactly did you manage to leave a "Negative" Ten Cent Tip?
Naughtius "Negative Coin Of The Realm" Maximus
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Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
How exactly did you manage to leave a "Negative" Ten Cent Tip?
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
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c0@earthlink.net wrote:
Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
How exactly did you manage to leave a "Negative" Ten Cent Tip?
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
Good job. Now call the card company and demand they do not pay the bill.
You should have made it -$10.00.
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c0@earthlink.net wrote:
We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left
them a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty
bad. My friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they
should pay my drycleaning bill.
The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so the -10
Is this theft or not?
Senior discount.
Like anyone's gonna #@&@
over a dime?
I'd have refused to pay for the meal and demanded they pay for the
drycleaning bill.
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:10:15 GMT, c0@earthlink.net wrote:
Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
If the owner or manager didn't complain, then there was a negotiated
settlement of a customer complaint, and no crime.
**Dan Evans
**I post information, not advice.
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Dan Evans wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:10:15 GMT, c0@earthlink.net wrote:
Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
How exactly did you manage to leave a "Negative" Ten Cent Tip?
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
If the owner or manager didn't complain, then there was a negotiated
settlement of a customer complaint, and no crime.
There ya go. And the owner probably put the dime back in himself.
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Zen Cohen wrote:
<c0@earthlink.net> wrote:
We went to a resturant where the service was so terrible, that I left them
a -10 cent tip, food was spilled on us and the service was pretty bad. My
friend tells me I could be arrested for theft, I submit they should pay my
drycleaning bill. The manager didn't seem to care about our complaint, so
the -10 Is this theft or not?
IMO, not. Theft is unlawfully appropriating property with intent to
deprive the owner of the property. Based on your post, you had no intent
to do so, but were deducting an amount to offset damage done to your
clothes and for failing to deliver services in accord with your reasonable
expectations. They might have a civil claim for breach of contract, but
you could counterclaim
For a f***in' dime??? The judge would probably throw it out of his courtroom
with a severe tongue-lasing for you both!
--
Theodore A. Kaldis
kaldis@worldnet.att.net
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Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
We'll probably never find out in this forum, but I'd love to know what the
charge reflected on your next credit card statement is. I be willing to bet
that it will be $51.50.
To generate that initial slip, they put in the $51.50 amount. I'm pretty
sure the rest of the system isn't set up for a negative tip amount, so they
probably just totalled it out as if you hadn't left a tip.
Tony
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Naughtius "The Twinkies Made Me Do It" Maximus wrote:
Food was $51.50, put it on the credit card in the tip line put in -0.10,
total was $51.40
Ah... Well, I've never heard of any ability to "Negative Debit" a Credit
Card Charge, but I guess You were there and I was not...
If it had been me, I simply would have Caused a Stop Payment/Charge Back
with my Card Issuing Bank for The Full Amount of the Unsatisfactory
Transaction... Spill Soup on me will ya?!?
Oh... and Shithead Restaurant WOULD be paying for my Dry Cleaning...
Naughtius "Schlemeil, Schlemozel" Maximus
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Dan Evans <dan@evans-legal.com> wrote in message news:<0h7620p1thuvl4r2361dc9091dcaevrel0@4ax.com>...
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 04:10:15 GMT, c0@earthlink.net wrote:
If the owner or manager didn't complain, then there was a negotiated
settlement of a customer complaint, and no crime.
This is the best answer, though I disagree that there was no crime.
Stealing 10 cents from a restaurant is theft of services. You probably
wouldn't be prosecuted, not just because it's only a freaking dime,
but because of the "negotiated settlement" answer.
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"Tony" <nospam@pittarese.com> wrote in message news:c01ghu$6tb@library2.airnews.net...
To generate that initial slip, they put in the $51.50 amount. I'm pretty
sure the rest of the system isn't set up for a negative tip amount, so they
probably just totalled it out as if you hadn't left a tip.
Actually, the initial slip reflects just a "pre-approved"
amount, along with a Transaction ID. When the actual
"accepted" amount (including tip) is processed for the
Transaction ID, the "accepted" amount replaces the
"pre-approved" amount. So, if the cashier agreed to
the negative 10-cent tip, then $51.40 should be the
processed amount. If it does show up as $51.50 on
the statement, then it can be disputed with the credit
card company since the receipt would provide proof
of the "accepted" amount. This scenario, IMHO, would
make the restaurant the thief, and they would easily be
in violation of the credit card company's T&C.
Just my 2 cents (3.6 pence) worth...
Klaatu
"I'm not concerned, Mr. Harley, with the
internal affairs of your planet. My mission
here is not to solve your petty squabbles."
The Day The Earth Stood Still - 1951
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