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And the chances are high that that drunk lowlife is
also a junkie smoker ... they seem to run together.
Rayarpt wrote:
When was the last time a family was visited at 2am telling them their
child had died from smoking a pack of Camels? When was the last time
a spouse was beaten to death by a husband high on Marlboros? How many
politicians caught stealing or in some sexual escapade suggest that
overindulgence in Winstons made them do it? The answer: NONE. as a
recovering drunk, I know that society was at worse risk when I was on
the road drunk than when i was having a cigarette. How many times
have non-smokers, in a line at the restaurant, when told there is a
20 minute wait for non-smoking table, taken a table in the smoking
section? A ton!!!
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"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message news:<3D9Vb.117$Bz.28374@news.uswest.net>...
And the chances are high that that drunk lowlife is
also a junkie smoker ... they seem to run together.
Drunk smokers are really deadly when they get behind the wheel of a
car. Then you have a 5000 pound hunk of steel "controlled" by someone
with dulled reflexes who also has a burning stick in his mouth
dropping hot ashes in his lap!!.
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agnulus wrote:
Yes, but tobacco doesn't kill bystanders. Drunk drivers can.
You @$#*ing idiot:
Excerpts from The Minnesota Daily, October 26, 2001, Letters to the Editor,
headlined, Smoking laws work, written by Edward L. Sweda, Jr., senior
attorney, Tobacco Control Resource Center
... what is not mentioned is cigarettes are the
number one cause of fatal fires in residences, annually killing
approximately
1,000 Americans, injuring another 4,000 and causing $4 billion
in property
damage. One-third of the victims are children.
While it is impossible to ensure every one of the millions of
smokers in this
country exercises adequate care when handling an intentionally
burned
consumer product, it is possible to alter the way that product
is manufactured to
make cigarette-caused fires far less likely. That was what New
York's
legislature achieved last year with passage of
first-in-the-nation legislation
requiring tobacco manufacturers to produce cigarettes adhering
to new fire
safety standards, something a technical study group mandated by
the federal
Safe Cigarette Act of 1984 deemed "technologically and
economically feasible."
Here in Massachusetts, our state Senate has approved similar
legislation in the
face of strong opposition from the tobacco lobby.
The tobacco industry's vigorous opposition to such legislation
in Minnesota and
across the country is yet another example of its callous
disregard for human
health and safety.
RJR's Andrew Schindler's vacation home was destroyed by fire, and other homes in
the area damaged, all caused by a cigarette. First of all, if Schindler had
made his home and the outside area a NO SMOKING zone, this would not have
happened. Secondly, if RJR had made fire-safe (self-extinguishing) cigarettes,
the fire would never have happened.
Four articles on this fire are excerpted on this page:
The Washington Post, April 23, 1997
United Press International, April 22, 1997
The Associated Press, April 22, 1997
Reuters, April 22, 1997
Jeffrey Wigand, portrayed in The Insider, was moved to action after a fatal fire
caused by cigarettes.
Fact Sheet on fire-safe cigarettes and the tobacco industry which has insisted
on making cigarettes that do not self-extinguish.
Letter to editor, The Minnesota Daily, October 26, 2001, on tobacco industry
failure to act and innocent victims suffer.
EXCERPTS from The Washington Post, April 23, 1997, page A03, wriiter John
Schwartz, headlined: Cigarette Butt Is Suspected in $1 Million Fire
Tobacco Executive's Home On Private N.C. Isle Burns
A cigarette butt is the likely cause of a million-dollar fire
that destroyed the vacation home of a top tobacco industry
executive last Friday, fire officials said.
Damages to the three-story North Carolina weekend home of Andrew
J. Schindler, president of the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., has
been estimated at $750,000, while other houses on North
Carolina's Figure Eight island suffered an estimated $250,000 in
losses as the fire spread.
Phil A. Kouwe, fire administrator for New Hanover County, said
local fire officials had not definitively determined, or
"called," the fire's cause. But a construction worker who had
been reparing the Schindler house reported that he had tossed a
lighted cigarette butt near the house just before his lunch
break.
"This makes us look at this as a very strong possibility, but
it's important that we have the time to eliminate any other
possible sources of ignition," Kouwe said.
Fewer than 100 people live year-round on the private island that
has recently seen a spurt of vacation home growth. The island
does not have a fire station. Firefighters reached the island by
the single bridge connecting it to the mainland, and also used a
helicopter to drop water over the area to try to prevent the
fire's spread.
Conditions are hazardous for fires in the area lately, Kouwe
said. Hurricane Fran, the 1996 storm that left 31 dead and caused
millions of dollars damage left masses of dead, flammable
vegetation, and recent dry weather has left the island's
wood-frame homes especially vulnerable, Kouwe said. "It's just
extremely volatile right now."
"That's something, from a general standpoint, that people need to
remember -- a cigarette is a burning object," Kouwe said.
Island resident Phyllis Atkinson saw the smoke from her deck and
rode her bicycle from her home to watch the firefighters in
action. "It was a terribly windy day -- we're very, very
fortunate that it wasn't more extensive," Atkinson said.
Maura P. Ellis, a spokeswoman for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco, noted
that fire officials had not definitively identified cigarettes as
the cause: "Last they heard the investigation is still ongoing."
Schindler has worked for the company since 1974.
In December 1989, a cigarette fire did $100,000 damage to the
suburban Cincinnati home of another RJR executive, Ronald Evans.
Evans was treated for third-degree burns.
Excerpts from United Press International, April 22, 1997, no writer identified,
headlined: Cigarette starts tobacco man's house fire
WILMINGTON, N.C., April 22 (UPI) _ Fire investigators in
Wilmington, N.C., say a fire that destroyed the vacation home of
the president of the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. was probably
caused by a discarded cigarette.
The three-story $750,000 home of Andrew Schindler on Figure Eight
Island was destroyed by the fire Friday. There were no injuries.
New Hanover County fire marshal Aubrey Rivenbark said today
(Tuesday) the fire appears to have been caused by a cigarette
left behind by workmen installing tile.
A man working in an area near a shrubbery bed where the fire
started told investigators he had smoked a cigarette about a
half-hour before the crew left for lunch.
Fanned by wind gusts of up to 30 mph, the fire scorched roofs and
decks on four adjacent oceanfront homes, causing another $250,000
in damage. It was the first major fire on the private island in
more than a decade.
Investigators say they've found no other possible cause for the
fire, such as an electrical malfunction.
EXCERPTS from The Associated Press, April 22, 1997, no writer identified,
headlined: Tobacco Exec's Home Burns
WILMINGTON, N.C. (AP) -- A fire that destroyed a vacation home
owned by t
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You @$#*ing idiot:
I believe that would describe people who use pompous Latin handles with
a copyright symbol and don't know how to trim their cross-posting.
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You might like this. http://thanks2.us
It slaps them in the face, yet helps wake them up.
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And the chances are high that that drunk lowlife is
also a junkie smoker ... they seem to run together.
Rayarpt wrote:
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You might like this. http://thanks2.us
It slaps them in the face, yet helps wake them up.
Nice link! I like the part that says anti-smokers will all be charged with
hate crimes...
Thank you!
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Marky wrote:
Nice link! I like the part that says anti-smokers will all be charged
with hate crimes...
Except that it ain't a crime to hate lowlife putrid smokers, Mawky,
never was and never will be ... get used to it, addict.
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Marky wrote:
Possibly, but there's a big difference between making a charge and getting a
conviction. Or, for that matter, making a charge and getting it as far as a
courtroom. Mark Pellow knows a thing or two about jails, however.
Except that it ain't a crime to hate lowlife putrid smokers, Mawky,
never was and never will be ... get used to it, addict.
Vox, when you reply to Mark's posts, you defeat the purpose of
killfiles. :-)
--
Bob Broughton
http://broughton.ca/
Vancouver, BC, Canada
"Watch your mouth, if you ever want to cross the border. Bad things
can happen to Canadians who use foul language in the US."
mailto:stanlee_98@yahoo.com , Nov. 30, 2003
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Robert Broughton wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote:
Possibly, but there's a big difference between making a charge and
getting a conviction. Or, for that matter, making a charge and
getting it as far as a courtroom. Mark Pellow knows a thing or two
about jails, however.
Vox, when you reply to Mark's posts, you defeat the purpose of
killfiles. :-)
Killfiles are for cowards ...
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Possibly, but there's a big difference between making a charge and getting
a
conviction. Or, for that matter, making a charge and getting it as far as
a
courtroom. Mark Pellow knows a thing or two about jails, however.
Yes, I know that airhole spent a few nights there for 'defiling' a tobacco
sign...
You're using old news...speaking of 'old news', how is Larry these days? Did
he ever figure out if he was really Larry or really Error, ooops, I mean
Airhole...
Except that it ain't a crime to hate lowlife putrid smokers, Mawky,
never was and never will be ... get used to it, addict.
Vox, when you reply to Mark's posts, you defeat the purpose of
killfiles. :-)
Well, with everyone in killfiles, we could actually talk to ourselves and
still be right...
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Robert Broughton wrote:
Killfiles are for cowards ...
Well, we have a difference of opinion here, Vox. For me, use of killfiles is
a matter of priorities. I only have a few minutes to spend each day reading
newsgroups, so I use killfiles to reduce the amount of time spent reading
the ravings of lowlife putrid psychotics like Mark Pellow, Rumi Khambata,
and David Brewster.
--
Bob Broughton
http://broughton.ca/
Vancouver, BC, Canada
"Watch your mouth, if you ever want to cross the border. Bad things
can happen to Canadians who use foul language in the US."
mailto:stanlee_98@yahoo.com , Nov. 30, 2003
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Well, we have a difference of opinion here, Vox. For me, use of killfiles
is
a matter of priorities. I only have a few minutes to spend each day
reading
newsgroups, so I use killfiles to reduce the amount of time spent reading
the ravings of lowlife putrid psychotics like Mark Pellow, Rumi Khambata,
and David Brewster.
ROFL! That's funny...
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Robert Broughton wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote:
Possibly, but there's a big difference between making a charge and getting a
conviction. Or, for that matter, making a charge and getting it as far as a
courtroom. Mark Pellow knows a thing or two about jails, however.
But Bawb, you too have been charged with hate crimes.
In case the others don't know, Bawb was charged with
vandalism, for splashing red paint on the homes of
some elderly people who smoked.
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Robert Broughton wrote:
Killfiles are for cowards ...
I agree.
Bawb has killfiled me.
So Bawb is a coward.
Like Paulie. Like Leach.
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
I agree.
Bawb has killfiled me.
So Bawb is a coward.
Like Paulie. Like Leach.
Birdbrains of a feather...
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Robert Broughton wrote:
But Bawb, you too have been charged with hate crimes.
In case the others don't know, Bawb was charged with
vandalism, for splashing red paint on the homes of
some elderly people who smoked.
Only to find out later that they actually were going to vote for him...
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