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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
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*********top posting alert********* picture of her here:
http://nypost.com/news/regionalnews/15431.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
That's one of the classic definitions of "rape." He wouldn't pay
whatever she expected as the price. See the Kobe case.
Bob
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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*********top posting alert********* picture of her here:
http://nypost.com/news/regionalnews/15431.htm
In the NYT times story, she's quoted as saying she's going home to be with
her husband and mom... to which my reaction is, "you still have a
husband?!?"
--
peace Kazuya
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In the NYT times story, she's quoted as saying she's going home to be with
her husband and mom... to which my reaction is, "you still have a
husband?!?"
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peace Kazuya
My reaction would be, "you still have a mom?!?" :) -Dave
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In the NYT times story, she's quoted as saying she's going home to be
with
her husband and mom... to which my reaction is, "you still have a
husband?!?"
--
peace Kazuya
My reaction would be, "you still have a mom?!?" :) -Dave
Well, my mom would be slightly bemused if I boinked 1/4 of the St. John's
cheerleading team in a hotel room at once.... my wife (if I had one)
presumably would not...
:-)
--
peace Kazuya
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Well, my mom would be slightly bemused if I boinked 1/4 of the St. John's
cheerleading team in a hotel room at once.... my wife (if I had one)
presumably would not...
:-)
--
peace Kazuya
I think your mom would wonder how you accomplished that feat when you were
only born with three legs. :) I almost married a woman who arranged
3-somes with me and a gorgeous young blonde woman who lived next door . . .
it was my girlfriend's idea. If I told that one I was going to boink 1/4 of
a cheerleading team, I think she'd wanna join us. :) -Dave
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Her name should be placed on the sexual predator list.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
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Anon wrote:
In the NYT times story, she's quoted as saying she's going home to
be with her husband and mom... to which my reaction is, "you still
have a husband?!?"
--
peace Kazuya
My reaction would be, "you still have a mom?!?" :) -Dave
She and her husband live with her mom? Oy -- no wonder she needed a
distraction!
--
nimue
"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock
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Strange to say, the rape shield laws are written so tightly in some
jurisdictions that her charges might stick in some states.
BTW, she was a pretty stupid hooker to extend $1000 credit to some
drunk college athletes. And they're lucky she doesn't have a pimp that
would take a straight razor to their faces for not paying up. You
know, law of the jungle.-Jitney
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Strange to say, the rape shield laws are written so tightly in some
jurisdictions that her charges might stick in some states.
BTW, she was a pretty stupid hooker to extend $1000 credit to some
drunk college athletes. And they're lucky she doesn't have a pimp that
would take a straight razor to their faces for not paying up. You
know, law of the jungle.-Jitney
Sounds like grand larceny to me.
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tinydancer wrote:
Sounds like grand larceny to me.
Is it? You know, I wonder about that. I mean, if a john doesn't pay a
prostitute, he IS stealing her services, but can he be charged? If a drug
dealer sells a drug user flour instead of cocaine, can he be charged with
fraud or theft? I would think that the fact that both parties are engaged
in illegal activities makes that impossible, but you never know. Laws are
weird.
--
nimue
"There was a time when I was young and gay -- but straight."
Max Bialystock
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Sounds like grand larceny to me.
You can't use the legal courts to settle up on an illegal crime. She's a ho,
and got ripped off. Those are the breaks. She lied to police and said she
was raped. That's a crime. I hope she does time.
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:6bd12cd6.0402071227.341cd24e@posting.google.com...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
Welcome to the 21st century. ;)
Alex
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0402071227.341cd24e@posting.google.com>...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
Another woman goes out on the piss, and regrets, thus blaming someone else.
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Alex wrote
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players gave
investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some of the
encounter, police said.
Welcome to the 21st century. ;)
I have heard of some athletes desperate to score any any cost, but a 38 year
old drunk and married mother for a grand ??!!!
Couldnt they have cashed her in for a pair of 19's and qualified for a group
discount ?? <g>
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have a GREAT day !!!!!
Solar
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jitney wrote:
Strange to say, the rape shield laws are written so tightly in some
jurisdictions that her charges might stick in some states.
BTW, she was a pretty stupid hooker to extend $1000 credit to some
drunk college athletes. And they're lucky she doesn't have a pimp that
would take a straight razor to their faces for not paying up. You
know, law of the jungle.-Jitney
It would be a large commercial crime, failure to pay for services
rendered, except the law won't enforce an illegal contract.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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tinydancer wrote:
Sounds like grand larceny to me.
It would be except the service is illegal and therefore the contract is
unenforceable.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 15:16:59 -0700, Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote:
s_knight8 wrote:
That's one of the classic definitions of "rape." He wouldn't pay
whatever she expected as the price. See the Kobe case.
Have you seen her photo? $1,000 for that?
It's obviously a mistake: she must have been paying them.
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0402071227.341cd24e@posting.google.com>...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4180623/
JAMAICA, N.Y. - A woman arraigned Friday on charges that she falsely
accused several St. John's basketball players of rape told police she
had agreed to have sex with the men for $1,000, according to an arrest
affidavit.
After having sex, the players refused to pay her so she called police
and told them she was raped, police said.
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach, 38, of New York, was arraigned on charges of
prostitution, attempted extortion and filing fictitious reports.
Urbanek-Bach, who did not have an attorney at the brief hearing, was
freed Friday after posting $20,000 bond.
Urbanek-Bach met the players at a strip club hours after the team lost
a game against Pittsburgh on Wednesday night, and then went back to a
hotel, police said.
Doubts about Urbanek-Bach's story were raised after one of the players
gave investigators his cell phone, which he had used to videotape some
of the encounter, police said.
While no criminal charges were filed against the players, St. John's
disciplined the men "for violation of team rules and behavior
inconsistent with St. John's mission and values."
Grady Reynolds, a senior, was expelled from the Roman Catholic school;
leading scorer Elijah Ingram, a sophomore, and senior Abraham Keita
were permanently suspended from the team and both could be expelled.
Freshman Lamont Hamilton and senior Mohamed Diakite were suspended and
freshman Tyler Jones faces discipline that has not been determined,
said school spokesman Dominic Scianna.
Absolutely could never have happened. Women don't lie, Dame Vera Baird
said so.
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tinydancer wrote:
Is it? You know, I wonder about that. I mean, if a john doesn't pay a
prostitute, he IS stealing her services, but can he be charged? If a drug
dealer sells a drug user flour instead of cocaine, can he be charged with
fraud or theft? I would think that the fact that both parties are engaged
in illegal activities makes that impossible, but you never know. Laws are
weird.
First thing we'd have to do is establish the value of the services rendered.
They're not worth $1000 just because she says they are.
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
First thing we'd have to do is establish the value of the services
rendered.
They're not worth $1000 just because she says they are.
If she was robbed by threat, it doesn't matter the amount- college athletes
bullying a woman around over a thousand dollars is not just 'defrauding an
innkeeper'.
Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
rendered.
If she was robbed by threat, it doesn't matter the amount- college
athletes
bullying a woman around over a thousand dollars is not just 'defrauding an
innkeeper'.
Dude, who said anything about her being robbed by threat?
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In article <kJEVb.51$_3.5219@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
First thing we'd have to do is establish the value of the services rendered.
They're not worth $1000 just because she says they are.
Then they shouldn't have agreed to pay $1000, should they? Kinda late to
be arguing about it now.
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"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
Then they shouldn't have agreed to pay $1000, should they? Kinda
late to
be arguing about it now.
It has never been established that they agreed to pay $1000 or any
other amount.
-Mike
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In article <8%MVb.28716$KV5.14297@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>,
El Senor <none@nowhere.nohow.com> wrote:
"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
late to
It has never been established that they agreed to pay $1000 or any
other amount.
Have they ever denied it?
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Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402563DB.6040704@hotmail.com>...
That's one of the classic definitions of "rape." He wouldn't pay
whatever she expected as the price. See the Kobe case.
Just like the old joke:
(punchline only)
Desk Sargent - Ma'am, why did you wait 2 weeks to report the rape?
Hooker - 'Cuz da check 'jes bounced...
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HiC wrote:
Bob <boby23456@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<402563DB.6040704@hotmail.com>...
Just like the old joke:
(punchline only)
Desk Sargent - Ma'am, why did you wait 2 weeks to report the rape?
Hooker - 'Cuz da check 'jes bounced...
Yep, it's like that exactly.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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In article <kJEVb.51$_3.5219@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
Then they shouldn't have agreed to pay $1000, should they?
OIC. You want to discuss breach of contract. Fine -- but that's
a civil matter, not a criminal one. Down the hall, third door on your left.
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"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote:
late to
It has never been established that they agreed to pay $1000 or any
other amount.
Nor does it matter, from a criminal perspective. Breach of contract
is a civil matter.
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In article <8%MVb.28716$KV5.14297@nwrdny01.gnilink.net>,
El Senor <none@nowhere.nohow.com> wrote:
Have they ever denied it?
Take them to civil court and find out.
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Michael Snyder wrote:
Nor does it matter, from a criminal perspective. Breach of contract
is a civil matter.
Two things stand out in this situation.
1. The sex was consensual. No crime of rape was committed.
2. The contract was illegal and therefore unenforceable. Civil law
will not enforce a criminal contract.
Bob
--
When did we divide into sides?
"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, leading Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/
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In article <pGiVb.24459$qK3.18839@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
"tinydancer" <tinydancer@nospam.com> wrote:
Sounds like grand larceny to me.
You must of gotten your law degree from a cracker jack box to think that
not being paid for a illegal act is grand larceny.
--
"He that would exchange liberty for temporary safety
deserves neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
"Those who are ready to sacrifice freedom for security
ultimately will lose both" - Abraham Lincoln
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In article <RwPVb.122$_3.6488@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
"tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message
OIC. You want to discuss breach of contract. Fine -- but that's
a civil matter, not a criminal one. Down the hall, third door on your left.
Theft of services is a criminal matter.
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On 9 Feb 2004 13:09:11 -0500, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <RwPVb.122$_3.6488@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
Theft of services is a criminal matter.
This isn't theft, at worst it's non-payment of a debt - a civil
matter.
The boys could sue the fots for damages to the person because of the
mental distress she caused them.
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tjab wrote:
In article <RwPVb.122$_3.6488@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Snyder <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote:
Theft of services is a criminal matter.
Yes -- but what you're talking about is breach of contract.
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Raqui wrote:
*********top posting alert********* picture of her here:
http://nypost.com/news/regionalnews/15431.htm
"A lot of the charges against me are not true,"
Sherri Ann Urbanek-Bach said yesterday as she
walked out of a Pittsburgh jail ...
Oh yeah? That must mean some of them are, then?
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