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I met with and hired an attorney who owns a law firm. This is a
personal injury iccident case. I was then told that another attorney
in the firm would be working on the case. I have not been invited to
meet him yet.
The first attorney (firm owner) told me to take these forms and obtain
my medical records. I tried. The doctors office told me that records
cannot be given out except to another doctor or by supena by an
attorney. Then they chewed me out and told me that my attorney knows
better than that and that he was just trying to save some of his fees
by haveing me do his work.
I called and told the second attorney about this. He said that he was
in the process of getting my records.
Is the first attorney a sheister? Is there client manipulation going
on?
The first attorney (firm owner) doesn't have a lot of years under his
belt. The second attorney has about 20 years experience.
Does this sound legitimate? Should I get rid of these people? How?
They might have already rung up a big bill for me.
I have a good case but I wonder if they will screw it up and get me a
small judgement.
How can a crappy attorney get others to work in his firm if he is no
good? This makes me thing that he MUST be somewhat good.
Opinions please.
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I met with and hired an attorney who owns a law firm. This is a
personal injury iccident case. I was then told that another attorney
in the firm would be working on the case. I have not been invited to
meet him yet.
The first attorney (firm owner) told me to take these forms and obtain
my medical records. I tried. The doctors office told me that records
cannot be given out except to another doctor or by supena by an
attorney. Then they chewed me out and told me that my attorney knows
better than that and that he was just trying to save some of his fees
by haveing me do his work.
I called and told the second attorney about this. He said that he was
in the process of getting my records.
Is the first attorney a sheister?
What's a "sheister"?
Is there client manipulation going
on?
Why don't you ask the client?
The first attorney (firm owner) doesn't have a lot of years under his
belt. The second attorney has about 20 years experience.
Does this sound legitimate?
No, legitimate attorneys have 21 years experience.
Should I get rid of these people?
Call the psychic hotline and ask them.
How?
They might have already rung up a big bill for me.
Which you will have to pay.
I have a good case but I wonder if they will screw it up and get me a
small judgement.
Smaller than you would get for yourself?
How can a crappy attorney get others to work in his firm if he is no
good?
$$ ?
This makes me thing that he MUST be somewhat good.
You really are a blithering idiot.
Opinions please.
See above.
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I met with and hired an attorney who owns a law firm. This is a
personal injury iccident case. I was then told that another attorney
in the firm would be working on the case. I have not been invited to
meet him yet.
The first attorney (firm owner) told me to take these forms and obtain
my medical records. I tried. The doctors office told me that records
cannot be given out except to another doctor or by supena by an
attorney. Then they chewed me out and told me that my attorney knows
better than that and that he was just trying to save some of his fees
by haveing me do his work.
I called and told the second attorney about this. He said that he was
in the process of getting my records.
Is the first attorney a sheister? Is there client manipulation going
on?
The first attorney (firm owner) doesn't have a lot of years under his
belt. The second attorney has about 20 years experience.
Does this sound legitimate? Should I get rid of these people? How?
They might have already rung up a big bill for me.
I have a good case but I wonder if they will screw it up and get me a
small judgement.
How can a crappy attorney get others to work in his firm if he is no
good? This makes me thing that he MUST be somewhat good.
The facts you reported about the first attorney and the medical records is a
minor matter. Since that attorney won't be handling the case, his
competence is not relevant. You have told us nothing good or bad about the
second attorney. Sometimes one attorney is good at bringing in new business
and/or managing the business operations of the firm, while not so good at
the work of the firm. They hire good litigators and everyone's happy.
That's not something to worry about. Until you have some indication of
incompetence of the second attorney, there is no basis for a speculation
that your case results won't be good. Relax.
McGyver
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On 9 Feb 2004 23:44:08 -0800, sofasurfer@blclinks.net (Daryl Helwig)
wrote:
The first attorney (firm owner) told me to take these forms and obtain
my medical records. I tried. The doctors office told me that records
cannot be given out except to another doctor or by supena by an
attorney.
The doctor's office told you that you can't have a copy of your own
medical records without a subpoena? Does that made sense to you?
And it's wrong as a matter of law, because HIPAA regulations require
doctors and hospitals to allow individuals to inspect and copy their
own medical records. See 45 CFR 164.524.
**Dan Evans
**I post information, not advice.
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"- Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in news:mg0Wb.150$u_6.205557
@news.uswest.net:
What's a "sheister"?
A trickster, someone trying to cheat you. I think it's Yiddish, but it's
also common in cockney (London), and probably other places that had a lot
of Jewish immigrants.
Why don't you ask the client?
No, legitimate attorneys have 21 years experience.
LOL!
Honestly, the young guy probably had the money to set up a firm, and to
hire someone more experienced, not to mention the ability to pull in
customers. It happens.
Call the psychic hotline and ask them.
Probably about as reliable as any advice on here. Who knows if they are any
good?
Which you will have to pay.
Smaller than you would get for yourself?
$$ ?
See above
Not necessarily
You really are a blithering idiot.
See above.
IANAL
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Where I'm from, it's routine for the lawyer to request the records, but
hardly alarming or bizarre for the lawyer to ask the client to provide them.
The client might even get them cheaper -- if the doctor cooperates.
Some doctors are personally uncomfortable with directly revealing their
written thoughts to a patient, and more comfortable dealing with patients
through the distancing of a lawyer. (Yes, I know what the law says, but
doctors don't care about law, and are actively hostile to laws, except those
laws hand-written and purchased by themselves or the insurance industry.)
Sometimes it's because the doctor is paranoid (either with or without good
cause) about a potential malpractice suit. And when this happens, it's smart
to let the lawyer handle it, but hardly a reason to blame the lawyer.
Also, sometimes the doctors want to correspond with the lawyer (despite
their revulsion) in order to secure a lien against the proceeds of the
potential lawsuit, to cover any unpaid bills (sometimes legally, and
sometimes in blatant violation of statutory pay schedules, e.g. workers comp
or no-fault).
And sometimes the doctors want to gouge the lawyer for an outrageous charge,
often in violation of statutes, to provide the medical records. Doctors know
that no patient would yield to such extortion, but that lawyers might do so,
based on the understanding that it's a disbursement that the client will
ultimately pay out of the proceeds.
Anyway, I don't see the basis for a productive lawyer-client relationship
here. I don't see any legitimate reason to be mad at the lawyer, but I see a
client who is distrustful, and who, if he does keep the current lawyer
through most of the case, will probably end up trying to change lawyers at
the last minute. And then the client will be shocked and outraged that
nobody wants to take a case where the first lawyer did a perfectly good job
with only 1 percent of the work left to do. If the client is this hostile,
so early on, and with no real reason, then he will probably find or invent
some reason to be hostile later on. Both the client and the lawyer will be
happier if the client goes away now, and becomes somebody else's headache.
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Alun wrote:
"- Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in news:mg0Wb.150$u_6.205557
@news.uswest.net:
A trickster, someone trying to cheat you. I think it's Yiddish, but
it's also common in cockney (London), and probably other places that
had a lot of Jewish immigrants.
LOL!
Honestly, the young guy probably had the money to set up a firm, and
to hire someone more experienced, not to mention the ability to pull
in customers. It happens.
Probably about as reliable as any advice on here. Who knows if they
are any good?
See above
Not necessarily
IANAL
Try some Preparation H ... or try oral instead.
--
.... ours is a sick profession marked by incompetence,
lack of training, misconduct and bad manners. Ineptness,
bungling, malpractice and bad ethics can be observed
in court houses all over this country every day ...
these incompetents have a seeming unawareness of
the fundamental ethics of the profession.
--Chief Justice Warren Burger
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"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in news:pZhZb.163$RO3.61366
@news.uswest.net:
Alun wrote:
Try some Preparation H ... or try oral instead.
Plonk!
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Alun wrote:
"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in news:pZhZb.163$RO3.61366
@news.uswest.net:
Plonk!
Sign of a feeble mind.
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