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http://thestifflist.com/
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Alexander Cain wrote: http://thestifflist.com/
Stalking and/or harassment usually is. -- The reason New Yorkers are so angry and depressed is because the light at the end if the tunnel is New Jersey.
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:24:47 -0500, "Alexander Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote:
http://thestifflist.com/
If it leads to harassment, it sure is. IF the residents protest, and the webmaster refuses to take the info down, the webmaster could be subject to civil penalties. Someone needs to contact the residents and let them know that their info is being passed around the Internet by pizza drivers. -- Ryan Lankford "Donkeys can talk, people can fly, and a man named Jesus lives in the Sky!" http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1047091/posts
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"Alexander Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote in news:wVjWb.9351$QE3.4423 @fe01.usenetserver.com:
http://thestifflist.com/
How is this illegal? Granted, I didn't create an account to read anything, but if the site is listing true information that isn't inciting imminent illegal conduct, this is protected expression and First Amendment protections should apply. The site isn't encouraging any illegal conduct. In fact, it isn't encouraging any conduct at all other than to post and read the posts. The remaining question is whether the expression is provably false. Defamation or false light damages could be awarded in that case.
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"Alexander Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote in news:wVjWb.9351$QE3.4423 @fe01.usenetserver.com: How is this illegal? Granted, I didn't create an account to read anything, but if the site is listing true information that isn't inciting imminent illegal conduct,
this
is protected expression and First Amendment protections should apply. The site isn't encouraging any illegal conduct. In fact, it isn't encouraging any conduct at all other than to post and read the posts.
So why don't YOU put your name on it and see how YOU feel?
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In article <iYUYb.413$dU3.275@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote:
So why don't YOU put your name on it and see how YOU feel?
Irrelevant. Making people feel bad, frustrated or angry is not illegal. If it was, you'd be illegal.
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In article <iYUYb.413$dU3.275@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote: Irrelevant. Making people feel bad, frustrated or angry is not illegal. If it was, you'd be illegal.
So how long have you supported the criminal underworld, and what exactly is your code name?
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 04:36:12 GMT, BTR1701 <BTR1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
In article <iYUYb.413$dU3.275@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote: Irrelevant. Making people feel bad, frustrated or angry is not illegal. If it was, you'd be illegal.
If there were any justice in this world, Dink _would_ be illegal. -- "There is no setup in Agent to omit text below the delimiter in a follow up post." Meat->Plow Ignoring That You Can Edit agent.ini to do just that in <al04bt$gr9$7@pita.alt.net>
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In article <tDXYb.480$dU3.71@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote:
So how long have you supported the criminal underworld, and what exactly is your code name?
What a bizarrely random non-response.
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"A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote in news:iYUYb.413$dU3.275@fe01.usenetserver.com:
this So why don't YOU put your name on it and see how YOU feel?
My personal feeling has nothing to do with the legality. FWIW, I think it is a great idea. I delivered pizza a time or two during college, and I would have loved to have a forum like this for a**holes. I've observed that people feel it is somehow acceptable to act any type of way toward another if they are spending money. I've seen customers exaggerate and outright lie to screw with someone's living. It's time they got theirs.
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Najena wrote:
"A. Cain" <noemail@there.invalid> wrote in news:iYUYb.413$dU3.275@fe01.usenetserver.com:
"Alexander Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote in news:wVjWb.9351$QE3.4423 @fe01.usenetserver.com: http://thestifflist.com/ How is this illegal? Granted, I didn't create an account to read anything, but if the site is listing true information that isn't inciting imminent illegal conduct, this is protected expression and First Amendment protections should apply. The site isn't encouraging any illegal conduct. In fact, it isn't encouraging any conduct at all other than to post and read the posts. So why don't YOU put your name on it and see how YOU feel?
My personal feeling has nothing to do with the legality.
FWIW, I think it is a great idea. I delivered pizza a time or two during college, and I would have loved to have a forum like this for a**holes. I've observed that people feel it is somehow acceptable to act any type of way toward another if they are spending money. I've seen customers exaggerate and outright lie to screw with someone's living. It's time they got theirs.
A tip is not mandatory by law. A tip is supposed to show that you as the person deliviering the service, performed the service in a manner "above and beyond the call of duty" so to say. Just handling the damn pizza is not sufficient reason for a tip. The way I see it, you've already been tipped. The company charges a higher price because they offer "FREE" delivery. Guess what dude? That's how you get paid. The money I hand you is your paycheck. Then you want me to pay you more just because you brought it to me? What ever happened to those two words "FREE DELIVERY"??????
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"Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote in news:c147q3025vm@enews1.newsguy.com:
A tip is not mandatory by law.
Thank you, Captain Obvious, for pointing that out in advance, in the event I make such an assertion in the future. But as a sidebar, employers get to factor around 40% of them into a person's wage for computing minimum wage, if they so choose.
A tip is supposed to show that you as the person deliviering the service, performed the service in a manner "above and beyond the call of duty" so to say.
see below.
Just handling the damn pizza is not sufficient reason for a tip. The way I see it, you've already been tipped. The company charges a higher price because they offer "FREE" delivery.
Guess what dude? That's how you get paid.
That is dead wrong if the store doesn't charge a delivery charge. If no delivery charge is assessed, the delivery customer pays the same price as the carryout customer. And, since you decided to single me out as your example, you are also wrong about how *I* got paid, b/c I wouldn't work for a store that had a delivery charge.
The money I hand you is your paycheck.
Then you want me to pay you more just because you brought it to me?
Yes. The long and short of it is, I wouldn't be driving down your dark street, risking getting robbed, parking all the way at the end of the block (I wasn't one of those assholes that blocked the street), tripped over your kids' junk in the front yard, walked up on your dilapidated porch, attempting to ring your non-functional doorbell, resorting to incessant knocking while you decide to get your ass off the couch, and listening to you complain about the wait when the store quoted a ludicrously incorrect time based on current sales volume, wearing down my car, in a deluge of rain, if I were working for minimum wage. You can get in your car, trip over your own junk, get your own ass out in the rain, hail, typhoon, or whatever and get it yourself. Then you'll have your free delivery. Now, back to what I wrote (since you decided to reply and not write a new thread). Customer want to have a voice. They love 800 numbers, survey cards, or whatever they can get their hands on to complain (or, yes it does occasionally happen, praise). They love leaving negative feedback, and exaggerating. They also love making demands, such as who gets to work and who should be fired. I've seen it. I've had people lie about what I've done or not done, and demand that I be fired. When I did my little McManager bit, I dealt with them. If the driver has done something wrong, or acted improperly, of course the store should know about it. But when customers lie, and screw with a person's employment, they deserve to be flamed. Everyone wants to be heard. Customers have had their soapbox. Now the employee gets one.
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Richard wrote:
A tip is not mandatory by law. A tip is supposed to show that you as the person deliviering the service, performed the service in a manner "above and beyond the call of duty" so
to
say. Just handling the damn pizza is not sufficient reason for a tip. The way I see it, you've already been tipped. The company charges a higher price because they offer "FREE" delivery. Guess what dude? That's how you get paid. The money I hand you is your paycheck. Then you want me to pay you more just because you brought it to me? What ever happened to those two words "FREE DELIVERY"??????
Good point. There could be a false advertising issue.
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