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Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
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Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of
denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a
pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
Well, first of all, if these people call wanting a delivery, you can't say
"No" because they don't tip. Second of all, tipping is dependant upon the
speed and service. If you bring a pizza 15 minutes late and then act like a
dick, hell no you don't deserve a tip. There are 2 sides to every story and
the people that are #@&@
ing on this page you have to take with a saltlick.
Finally, tipping is a priviledge and not a right. A person may be a
cheapskate if they don't tip, but if it were a requirement, it would have
been pre-figured in the bill as some restaurants do.
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denying
pizza
Well, first of all, if these people call wanting a delivery, you can't say
"No" because they don't tip.
Exactly.
Second of all, tipping is dependant upon the
speed and service. If you bring a pizza 15 minutes late and then act like
a
dick, hell no you don't deserve a tip. There are 2 sides to every story
and
the people that are #@&@
ing on this page you have to take with a
saltlick.
The problem is, the "pizza boys," as they are called, have the attitude
that regardless of the service they present, they deserve a gratuity. And
that if you do not supply a gratuity, you are a "stiffer" and should receive
less quality of service the second time around as a sort of "message" that
you should give a tip. It's a form of extortion, but every time you
confront these individuals with that charge, they either attempt to change
the subject or disavow their actions.
Finally, tipping is a priviledge and not a right. A person may be a
cheapskate if they don't tip, but if it were a requirement, it would have
been pre-figured in the bill as some restaurants do.
Exactly. But try telling that to some of these idiots.
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Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of
denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a
pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
would be nice, especially after Scott Gilbert posted my address and phone
number to a Usent group.
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["Followup-To:" header set to alt.pizza.delivery.drivers.]
On 2004-02-11, Alexander Cain <noemail@here.invalid> wrote:
Exactly.
a
and
saltlick.
The problem is, the "pizza boys," as they are called, have the attitude
that regardless of the service they present, they deserve a gratuity. And
that if you do not supply a gratuity, you are a "stiffer" and should receive
less quality of service the second time around as a sort of "message" that
you should give a tip. It's a form of extortion, but every time you
confront these individuals with that charge, they either attempt to change
the subject or disavow their actions.
Not to mention the @$#*ery you're likely to become a victim of if you're
a "stiffer". Stiffy posted about some interesting things to do to
satellite dishes on the pizzaboi mailing list a while ago, for example.
Exactly. But try telling that to some of these idiots.
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:26:51 -0500, "Alexander Cain"
<noemail@here.invalid>,wrote:
Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
It's at least actionable for removal from the server unless the admin is a
pizzaboi sympathizer.
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:06:33 +0900, "Dethlar2004: Blaq Action Hero"
<dethlar2004@ammodump.com>,wrote:
denying
pizza
Well, first of all, if these people call wanting a delivery, you can't say
"No" because they don't tip. Second of all, tipping is dependant upon the
speed and service. If you bring a pizza 15 minutes late and then act like a
dick, hell no you don't deserve a tip. There are 2 sides to every story and
the people that are #@&@
ing on this page you have to take with a saltlick.
Finally, tipping is a priviledge and not a right. A person may be a
cheapskate if they don't tip, but if it were a requirement, it would have
been pre-figured in the bill as some restaurants do.
At the very least, non/low tipping customers purchased a product and deserve to
receive what they paid for hot, fresh and uncontaminated. So what if the
pizzaboi doesn't smile or say a word ? Save that for those who tip well. And
besides, if the pizzaboi is busy, who has time to fraternize with any customer?
It adds up and you have less time to do your job. Personally when I order
delivery, I just want my @$#*ing pizza, not an earfull from a loser pizzaboi.
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 16:06:33 +0900, "Dethlar2004: Blaq Action Hero"
<dethlar2004@ammodump.com>,wrote:
At the very least, non/low tipping customers purchased a product and
deserve to
receive what they paid for hot, fresh and uncontaminated.
So basically what you are saying is that even though the consumer pays for
something, the tip is actually "ransom money" to make sure it arrives there
without incident?
So what if the
pizzaboi doesn't smile or say a word ? Save that for those who tip well.
And
besides, if the pizzaboi is busy, who has time to fraternize with any
customer?
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I have to pay YOU to give me some
common courtesy? That is the root of the problem with the service industry
in the US today: young waiters, waitresses, and delivery people don't
believe that their attitude weighs heavily on the gratuity they recieve or
don't recieve, yet they can act like a dick and if they still get a little
extra then they MIGHT give them a smile as they are walking out the door.
Believe it or not, professional courtesy is a big part of return business.
Fuck if you had a bad day or not. If you treat people like they are human ,
it will be reciprocated. If you treat them like #@($, well ditto. Human
relations 101.
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Testify, my brotha! I remember once upon a time a waiter / waitress /
service industry personnel had to work to EARN their gratuity. Now one has
to wave a tip in the air to "earn" any service whatsoever. Nonsensical "the
world owes me a living" attitude. Mr. Pink in Reservoir Dogs had the right
idea.
--
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deserve to
So basically what you are saying is that even though the consumer pays for
something, the tip is actually "ransom money" to make sure it arrives
there
without incident?
So what if the
And
customer?
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I have to pay YOU to give me some
common courtesy? That is the root of the problem with the service
industry
in the US today: young waiters, waitresses, and delivery people don't
believe that their attitude weighs heavily on the gratuity they recieve or
don't recieve, yet they can act like a dick and if they still get a little
extra then they MIGHT give them a smile as they are walking out the door.
Believe it or not, professional courtesy is a big part of return business.
Fuck if you had a bad day or not. If you treat people like they are human
,
it will be reciprocated. If you treat them like #@($, well ditto. Human
relations 101.
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deserve to
So basically what you are saying is that even though the consumer pays for
something, the tip is actually "ransom money" to make sure it arrives
there
without incident?
No, *I'm* not saying that. It's the pizza boys like StiffMeNot@cs.com who
are saying that.
So what if the
And
customer?
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I have to pay YOU to give me some
common courtesy? That is the root of the problem with the service
industry
in the US today: young waiters, waitresses, and delivery people don't
believe that their attitude weighs heavily on the gratuity they recieve or
don't recieve, yet they can act like a dick and if they still get a little
extra then they MIGHT give them a smile as they are walking out the door.
Believe it or not, professional courtesy is a big part of return business.
Fuck if you had a bad day or not. If you treat people like they are human
,
it will be reciprocated. If you treat them like #@($, well ditto. Human
relations 101.
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(Removed totally unrelated groups.)
Alexander Cain wrote:
Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a pizza
to the home of the individual?
Isn't truth a defense to "malicious intent"?
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(Removed totally unrelated groups.)
(added totally unrelated, dead newsgroups)
Alexander Cain wrote:
Isn't truth a defense to "malicious intent"?
Would YOU want your address placed on that site?
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Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of
denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a
pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
thestifflist , a list of pizza boys who don't pay tax on tips
If you don't pay taxes on your tips, someone else
(like your friends or your parents) will end up picking
up the tab for you. Perhaps the $20 tip from a regular
delivery suprised you, it's all part of people helping out
others, unlike pizza delivery boys, who all try to steal
by not paying taxes on tips.
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Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of
denying
them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a
pizza
to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
Not illegal.
(Misc.legal)
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Wht should the cheapskates been given service. I too would shuffle them
to the bottom of their list, then spit on their pie before I pulled up
to the house. If they connot afford to TIP, then they should got off
their lazt duffs and drive down to pick up their own pizza.
Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
(Removed totally unrelated groups.)
Alexander Cain wrote:
Isn't truth a defense to "malicious intent"?
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Wht should the cheapskates been given service. I too would shuffle them
to the bottom of their list, then spit on their pie before I pulled up
to the house.
Food tampering...assault...attempted assault...etc.
If they connot afford to TIP, then they should got off
their lazt duffs and drive down to pick up their own pizza.
Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
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I got an idea. Why not track down criminal records and post them on
the web. That way we know who are the thieves among us and dont' hire
them, don't do business with them.
He he he... Will that be legal? I think stealing is far worse than not
giving tip. I hate giving tips myself.
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Alexander Cain wrote:
Food tampering...assault...attempted assault...etc.
And, your point is?
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:35:49 +0900, "Dethlar2004: Blaq Action Hero"
<dethlar2004@ammodump.com>,wrote:
deserve to
So basically what you are saying is that even though the consumer pays for
something, the tip is actually "ransom money" to make sure it arrives there
without incident?
So what if the
And
customer?
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. I have to pay YOU to give me some
common courtesy? That is the root of the problem with the service industry
in the US today: young waiters, waitresses, and delivery people don't
believe that their attitude weighs heavily on the gratuity they recieve or
don't recieve, yet they can act like a dick and if they still get a little
extra then they MIGHT give them a smile as they are walking out the door.
Believe it or not, professional courtesy is a big part of return business.
Fuck if you had a bad day or not. If you treat people like they are human ,
it will be reciprocated. If you treat them like #@($, well ditto. Human
relations 101.
Umm I'm not a pizzaboi, go back and re-read what I wrote.
I was as I have been for the past several month in apdd this From line:
"Stiff Me Not" <stiffmenott@CS.C0M>
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In article <sXjWb.9364$QE3.2470@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "Alexander
Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote:
Putting a person's address on a webpage with the malicious intent of
denying them service because of not receiving a gratuitity after delivering a
pizza to the home of the individual?
http://thestifflist.com/city.cgi?city=Fayetteville&state=AR
If you KNOW it's illegal, then it should be no problem for you to cite
the law it violates.
Put the citation here----------->
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
(Removed totally unrelated groups.)
Alexander Cain wrote:
Isn't truth a defense to "malicious intent"?
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
(Removed totally unrelated groups.)
Alexander Cain wrote:
Isn't truth a defense to "malicious intent"?
I seem to be fumble fingers today so please
excuse me if there are some extra posts.
It seems that liabel could be not the only
issue here. there is also the issue of
privacy, publishing the name along with the
address, if they have unlisted numbers, and
also perhaps "interference with a business
relationship" (or whatever they call it in
Arkansas). Haven't looked up AR law, though.
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In article <402ACA1C.3020702@aol.com>, "POLICE SUCK"(P0LICESUCK@aol.com)
dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Wht should the cheapskates been given service.
Because you can't discriminate against non-tippers?
I too would shuffle them
to the bottom of their list, then spit on their pie before I pulled up
to the house. If they connot afford to TIP, then they should got off
their lazt duffs and drive down to pick up their own pizza.
Tough titties. Go drive the pizzamobile and make a customer happy for
once.
--
mhm 31x9
Smeeter #28, 29, or 30
WSD #30
Skep-ti-cult ID# 365-12149-907
Alcatroll Labs Inc. (Division of Incendiary Devices)
StArSHiNe_MoOnbEAm aT HoTMaIL DoT cOM
http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9
"Technology is getting better and that's fine but most of the time,
all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife, and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
"You can run but you'll just die tired and buttered."
-- Ryannosaurus
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In article <402AD77A.60509@aol.com>, "POLICE SUCK"(P0LICESUCK@aol.com)
dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Alexander Cain wrote:
And, your point is?
Better hope nobody calls your polluted pizza in. Even better if it's a
cop, then there's all sorts of charges they can drop on you.
--
mhm 31x9
Smeeter #28, 29, or 30
WSD #30
Skep-ti-cult ID# 365-12149-907
Alcatroll Labs Inc. (Division of Incendiary Devices)
StArSHiNe_MoOnbEAm aT HoTMaIL DoT cOM
http://www.geocities.com/tobydog9
"Technology is getting better and that's fine but most of the time,
all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife, and a smile."
-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"
"You can run but you'll just die tired and buttered."
-- Ryannosaurus
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Alexander Cain who implemented 'no nigger day' at Subway wrote:
(added totally unrelated, dead newsgroups)
Would YOU want your address placed on that site?
I want you to go make me a sandwich #@&@
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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 18:33:21 GMT, POLICE SUCK <P0LICESUCK@aol.com>
wrote:
Wht should the cheapskates been given service. I too would shuffle them
to the bottom of their list,
Yes...
then spit on their pie before I pulled up to the house.
No, no.
If they connot afford to TIP, then they should got off
their lazt duffs and drive down to pick up their own pizza.
Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
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Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
In article <402ACA1C.3020702@aol.com>, "POLICE SUCK"(P0LICESUCK@aol.com)
dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Because you can't discriminate against non-tippers?
Says who? I am an equal opportunity discriminator and can discriminate
against anyone I want to.
Tough titties. Go drive the pizzamobile and make a customer happy for
once.
No thanks. I'll leave that job to you.
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Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
In article <402AD77A.60509@aol.com>, "POLICE SUCK"(P0LICESUCK@aol.com)
dropped a +5 bundle of words...
Better hope nobody calls your polluted pizza in. Even better if it's a
cop, then there's all sorts of charges they can drop on you.
Lucky for me (and non tipping customers) I am not a Pizza boy however,
if I were I wouldn't hesitate.
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Starshine Moonbeam wrote:
Says who? I am an equal opportunity discriminator and can discriminate
against anyone I want to.
the law says otherwise.
No thanks. I'll leave that job to you.
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Daniel wrote:
the law says otherwise.
AND?
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In article <sXjWb.9364$QE3.2470@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "Alexander
Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote:
If you KNOW it's illegal, then it should be no problem for you to cite
the law it violates.
Put the citation here----------->
You're an idiot.
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No, *I'm* not saying that. It's the pizza boys like StiffMeNot@cs.com who
are saying that.
I never said you did. I was responding to StiffMeNot's previous post.
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Ahhh, do you feel all better now?
Dethlar2004: Blaq Action Hero wrote:
Wht should the cheapskates been given service. I too would shuffle them
to the bottom of their list, then spit on their pie before I pulled up
to the house.
Please. Tipping is not a god given right unto you. If a delivery boy/girl
can't stand the fact that tipping is an OPTIONAL service which reflects the
service the customer receives (the reason the tipping system was institued
in the first place), then they should get a new @$#*ing line of work. It's
a sad, sad day in human history when little scalawags incapable of human
relations perverts the meaning of tipping from "appreciation of service" to
"ransom". Police Suck? No. You suck, pal.
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In article <CuyWb.11577$QE3.7658@fe01.usenetserver.com>, "Alexander
Cain" <noemail@here.invalid> wrote:
You're an idiot.
So asking you to back up your claims with actual evidence makes me an
idiot?
Interesting.
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In article <Q7yWb.7373$ng6.2838@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Daniel"
<sabot120mm@diespammersdie.com> wrote:
the law says otherwise.
Actually, the law only makes discrimination based on sex, race, creed,
ethnicity, national origin or disabled status illegal.
It says nothing about discrimination based on lack of tipping. If they
want to do it, there's nothing illegal about it.
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In article
<dGhpc2lzbWU=.0961a90575228953161fa703a97d212d@1076530692.nulluser.com>,
thisisme <thisisme@cotse.net> wrote:
Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
I seem to be fumble fingers today so please
excuse me if there are some extra posts.
It seems that liabel could be not the only
issue here. there is also the issue of
privacy, publishing the name along with the
address, if they have unlisted numbers,
Nothing in the law prohibits publicizing anyone's telephone number or
address. There's no statutory right to have such information kept secret.
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