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Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.html
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Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.html
"He is board chairman of Smith & Wesson Holding Corp., parent company of the famous gunmaker. He also ran a successful non-profit agency serving delinquent and disabled Michigan youths for 20 years before retiring to Scottsdale in 1997." Do you know what "parent company" means?
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend <> wrote in news:n4lo2096rt99tp6hkp8mof6u70asbt0neq@4ax.com:
Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.html
So when is Teddy reporting to Club Fed for the 3 years I figure he owes society ( based on what they gave Janklow )? As to the guy running the S&W parent company, the Democraps think it right and proper to elect murderers and disbarred judges to Congress so who are you to question the qualifications of this guy? Petty thieves, embezzlers and child molesters also seem to OK by the Democommies. IBM _______________________________________________________________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com <><><><><><><> The Worlds Uncensored News Source <><><><><><><><>
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:17:38 GMT, "Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote:
"He is board chairman of Smith & Wesson Holding Corp., parent company of the famous gunmaker. He also ran a successful non-profit agency serving delinquent and disabled Michigan youths for 20 years before retiring to Scottsdale in 1997." Do you know what "parent company" means?
All i know is you're another hater and i wish you'd stay off my threads. thank you.
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun.
http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.html
He doesn't have to touch, or own a gun to run the company. BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 05:17:38 GMT, "Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote: All i know is
Nothing whatever. I see you don't know what parent company means.
you're another hater
Nah, I'm sweetness and light itself, ya stupid gink.
and i wish you'd stay off my threads. thank you.
Personally, I don't care what you wear. I wouldn't touch you with a ten foot rotting squid arm.
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"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in news:Z80Xb.23375$uV3.48518@attbi_s51: you're another hater
Nah, I'm sweetness and light itself, ya stupid gink.
What's a gink?
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BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
The article at http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm, which is not a newspaper or AP page, has a copy of a (supposedly) AP article describing a tragic accident in which Laura Bush, at age 17, was involved in a traffic accident in which her boyfriend died. -- John Goulden
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Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun.
It is not necessary to touch a gun to run a company. -- John Goulden
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand
There's a _lot_ you will never understand, Judy.
is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun.
There's no law that says he can't, you stupid drunk.
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:42:15 -0600, "Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: He doesn't have to touch, or own a gun to run the company.
Yeah - but you know he does. He should be thrown in prison for being a felon with a gun.
BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
Where have you been?. Even Laura the Horra has admitted she did it.
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:42:15 -0600, "Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote: Yeah - but you know he does. He should be thrown in prison for being a felon with a gun.
I don't know that he does. How do you? BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
Where have you been?. Even Laura the Horra has admitted she did it.
No she didn't. Otherwise, she would be in jail. There is no statute of limitations on murder.
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gavnook wrote:
"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in news:Z80Xb.23375$uV3.48518@attbi_s51: you're another hater What's a gink?
A geeky kink.
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AH#49 wrote:
"=> Vox Populi " wrote: What's yer point? The person in question has not been in any form of "possession", legally or otherwise, as far as you or anyone knows.
I agree, just disabusing some of the dullards of their common misconceptions as to what elements are necessary to be in (il)legal "possession of something. All that is usually needed is "dominion and control", some venues require "knowlege", so if this guy walks into a S&W warehouse, and he has the ability to control the firearms there, then he is "in possession".
He commited crimes, sure. He paid his "dept" to society.
You mean debt, and yes he did.
At least he didn't kill a young girl, become worse and become a Senator.
Or evade the Vietnam war, drive DUI numerous times, abuse cocaine, go awol/desert from the Nat. Guard, lie about it all, swindle taxpayers in bogus business deals, execute more humans as Governor than anytime/state in modern history, steal a presidential election, attack, invade and occupy a foreign nation based on gross lies and deceptions, all for greed and personal political power. -- -- The sayings of George W. "We Know They're There" Bush: "The vast majority of our imports come from outside the country." "If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure." "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." "The future will be better tomorrow." - Governor George W. Bush "We're going to have the best educated American people in the world." "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." "We have a firm commitment to NATO, we are a part of NATO. We have a firm commitment to Europe. We are a part of Europe." "Public speaking is very easy." "A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls." "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." "For NASA, space is still a high priority." "Quite frankly, teachers are the only profession that teach our children." "It isn't pollution that's harming the environment. It's the impurities in our air and water that are doing it." "It's time for the human race to enter the solar system." "If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow." "I don't think we need to be subliminable about the differences between our views on prescription drugs." "Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it." "I think we agree, the past is over." "I hope we get to the bottom of the answer. It's what I'm interested to know." DEATH AND TAXES: "Mr. Vice-President, in all due respect, it is - I'm not sure 80 per cent of the people get the death tax. I know this: 100 per cent will get it if I'm the president." "The fact that he relies on facts - says things that are not factual - are going to undermine his campaign." "If I'm the President, we're going to have Emergency-Room care, we're going to have gag orders." "I was raised in the West. The west of Texas. It's pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C. is close to California." "The senator has got to understand if he's going to have --- he can't have it both ways. He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road." "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." "We had a good Cabinet meeting, talked about a lot of issues. Secretary of State and Defense brought us up to date about our desires to spread freedom and peace around the world."-Washington, D.C., Aug. 1, 2003 (Thanks to Tanny Bear.) Bush Says - "Actually, I -- this may sound a little West Texan to you, but I like it. When I'm talking about -- when I'm talking about myself, and when he's talking about myself, all of us are talking about me." --Hardball, MSNBC, May 31, 2000
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.html
He's a 74 year old man who paid his debt and has led an admirable life for 35 years since his release in 1969. He is also simply chairman of the board of directors, elected because of his independent status. The holding company is "run" by the full board consisting of 7 elected members, and separately 4 additional corporate officers (one of which is also a board member), not to mention their compliance requirements to the SEC, IRS and BATF. He is by law not permitted to *own* a gun, period. -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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John D. Goulden wrote: BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
The article at http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm, which is not a newspaper or AP page, has a copy of a (supposedly) AP article describing a tragic accident in which Laura Bush, at age 17, was involved in a traffic accident in which her boyfriend died.
But do you have proof beyond a reasonable doubt she committed murder in the accident? <Quote> <nov 5, 1963> At an intersection, she apparently failed to see her boyfriend, Mike Douglas, driving south. The vehicles collided and Douglas was thrown from his doorless Jeep, breaking his neck. He died instantly. ........... An abbreviated version of the [accident] report concluded neither Douglas or Bush could be blamed for the accident, the Post reported. </quote> This is not premeditated which is a condition of "murder". "Vehicular manslaughter" is another thing. Most likely, the jeep did not have seat belts, and without doors, which is common in jeeping, the driver would most likely be thrown out of the vehicle in a crash. Since this crash was not preplanned, but an unfortunate circumstance, which happened to involve her boyfriend, is not grounds to preclude murder.
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 01:42:15 -0600, "Richard" <anonymous@127.000> wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: Guy spent 15 years in prison for assorted felonies and now is chairman of S&W!!!! What i don't understand is how this guy can run a gun compnay when he, since he's a convicted felon, is not allowed to even touch a gun. http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/0212minder12.ht ml He doesn't have to touch, or own a gun to run the company.
Yeah - but you know he does. He should be thrown in prison for being a felon with a gun.
BTW, your handle sucks. You got any proof?
Where have you been?. Even Laura the Horra has admitted she did it.
But you claim "murder" when no evidence points to preplanned events. From the description of the accident, it would appear both were equally guilty of negligence. He died from the fact he was thrown from his doorless jeep which probably had no seat belts. A 1963 or earlier Jeep was not one of the safest vehicles to be driving.
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AH#49 wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: There's a _lot_ you will never understand, Judy. There's no law that says he can't, you stupid drunk.
Mrs. G. Gordon Liddy is said to have a very fine firearms collection ;o) -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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Peter McMullen wrote:
AH#49 wrote: Mrs. G. Gordon Liddy is said to have a very fine firearms collection ;o)
He got a rare, and no longer available, FBI/BATF rehabilitation/restoration of this 2nd amendment "rights" post-felony conviction. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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Peter McMullen wrote:
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: He's a 74 year old man who paid his debt and has led an admirable life for 35 years since his release in 1969. He is also simply chairman of the board of directors, elected because of his independent status. The holding company is "run" by the full board consisting of 7 elected members, and separately 4 additional corporate officers (one of which is also a board member), not to mention their compliance requirements to the SEC, IRS and BATF. He is by law not permitted to *own* a gun, period.
Wrong, the law prohibits "possession" of a firearm, regardless of "ownership". -- A multitude of laws in a country is like a great number of physicians, a sign of weakness and malady -- Voltaire
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Peter McMullen wrote: Wrong, the law prohibits "possession" of a firearm, regardless of "ownership".
I'll happily concede that, as the point I was making is that "even touching" is not prohibited, nor does it constitute ownership *or* possesion for that matter. Mrs. Gordon Liddy had (probably still has if she's alive) a very nice collection. -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Peter McMullen wrote: He got a rare, and no longer available, FBI/BATF rehabilitation/restoration of this 2nd amendment "rights" post-felony conviction.
Ok... gotta concede this one... -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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Peter McMullen wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote: Ok... gotta concede this one...
Bet that hurt ... gonna leave a mark too. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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Peter McMullen wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote: I'll happily concede that, as the point I was making is that "even touching" is not prohibited, nor does it constitute ownership *or* possesion for that matter. Mrs. Gordon Liddy had (probably still has if she's alive) a very nice collection.
As stated earlier, GGL was one of the rare few ex-felons who was able to re-establish his "rights" under the 2nd amendment by the rehabilitation process once offered by the BATF/FBI ... -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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"Yardpilot" <yardpilot@comcast.net> wrote in news:Z80Xb.23375$uV3.48518@attbi_s51: you're another hater What's a gink?
What would you like it to be?
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Peter McMullen wrote: As stated earlier, GGL was one of the rare few ex-felons who was able to re-establish his "rights" under the 2nd amendment by the rehabilitation process once offered by the BATF/FBI ...
Hopefully, that's true. Could you possibly offer proof? I dropped him a line to ask, but have received no response as yet. He is under no obligation to tell anyone, of course.
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"=3D> Vox Populi =A9" wrote:
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He got a rare, and no longer available, FBI/BATF rehabilitation/restora=
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of this 2nd amendment "rights" post-felony conviction.
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
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"=3D> Vox Populi =A9" wrote:
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Bet that hurt ... gonna leave a mark too.
Only on your forehead! Please read the above and see why I giggle AT you!
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Peter McMullen wrote: As stated earlier, GGL was one of the rare few ex-felons who was able to re-establish his "rights" under the 2nd amendment by the rehabilitation process once offered by the BATF/FBI ...
It also appears, under federal court decisions, to depend on whether, in the jurisdiction of the original conviction, his civil rights were restored (voting, jury duty and running for office), provided here are no specific state prohibitions. These conditions seem to be an exception to the "term exceeding one year" provision in U.S.C. 18, 922.: http://www.jus.state.nc.us/lr/opinion/advs397.htm http://touchngo.com/ap/html/ap-1494.htm -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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=> Vox Populi wrote:
Peter McMullen wrote: Bet that hurt ... gonna leave a mark too.
Nah... I can take it. Don't mind admiting when I'm wrong... but that goes both ways... -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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Peter McMullen wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote: It also appears, under federal court decisions, to depend on whether, in the jurisdiction of the original conviction, his civil rights were restored (voting, jury duty and running for office), provided here are no specific state prohibitions. These conditions seem to be an exception to the "term exceeding one year" provision in U.S.C. 18, 922.: http://www.jus.state.nc.us/lr/opinion/advs397.htm http://touchngo.com/ap/html/ap-1494.htm
Referring to Mr. Minder's situation, not Liddy -- "At this time, Google policy does not permit the advertisement of websites that contain 'firearms and ammunition'." BOYCOTT GOOGLE :-)
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Doesn't matter.
Yes it does.
Unless he gets a pardon, he can never have a gun again.
Wrong again you hysterical ninny. Even *with* a pardon he cannot legally possess a firearm in the U$$A, however (and I know this is going to confuse your little coconut) he can legally possess a firearm *without* a pardon provided he obtains rehabilitation status from the BATF/FBI.
Looks like he's getting special treatment.
Looks like you're just another hysterical female. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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Peter McMullen wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote: Nah... I can take it. Don't mind admiting when I'm wrong... but that goes both ways...
You don't mind admitting when you're not wrong ...? -- I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace, two men are called a law firm, and three or more become a Congress. -- John Adams, in the play "1776"
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Yardpilot wrote:
Hopefully, that's true.
It is.
Could you possibly offer proof?
Try a google search.
I dropped him a line to ask, but have received no response as yet. He is under no obligation to tell anyone, of course.
Though such a record would be available via the FOIA. -- " In free governments, the rulers are the servants and the people their superiors and sovereigns. " - Benjamin Franklin
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Yardpilot wrote: It is. Try a google search.
You did make the claim, remember? Surely you can support it.
Though such a record would be available via the FOIA.
First, I have no interest in paying for such information. Second, it was YOUR claim. I merely requested that you support it. Third, if you think everything you ask for comes to you on a FOIA inquiry, you've never made one. Can you support the claim or not?
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You did make the claim, remember? Surely you can support it.
Yep, I could if I were inclined to do your work for you, but I'm not. Don't really care whether you accept it as fact or not.
First, I have no interest in paying for such information. Second, it was YOUR claim. I merely requested that you support it.
And I'm not going to do your work or pay for your education. I know it to be factual, what you know or choose to know is your business.
Third, if you think everything you ask for comes to you on a FOIA inquiry, you've never made one. Can you support the claim or not?
Can I? Sure. Will I for you ... no.
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