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Man, Amerikans sure are sloooooooooooow. Took you long enough to figure out an AWOL son of a crook, ex-crack addict, dyslexic alcoholic just might not be Je$us' representative here on Earth like he claimed. That it's more likely that he just might be a figurehead for the Texas Oil Mafia... The American Way David R. Hoffman, Legal Editor Pravda.ru Finally, after more than three years of sycophantic worship of the corruptly appointed Bush dictatorship, some in the corporate-controlled media in America are beginning to question what more perceptive journalists had questioned years before: George W. Bush's so-called "military" record. Perhaps the reluctance to broach this issue, particularly amongst Democrats, rose from fears of being accused of hypocrisy over their previous assertions that Bill Clinton's youthful protests against the war in Vietnam were irrelevant as to how he would perform as president. But Clinton's protestations lacked the aura of hypocrisy that surrounds Bush's alleged tenure in the National Guard. It is one thing to let the world, for better or worse, know where one stands on an issue. It is quite another to retreat to the safety of an alternative service when one's own life might be on the line, yet become a "war hawk" when others are being maimed and killed. This article is certainly not meant to criticize those who, for religious, moral or political reasons, selected alternative routes to military service, but to condemn the vile and rancid hypocrisy of self-proclaimed "war-time" dictator George W. Bush, who chose such an alternative when his life was at risk, yet now lands on aircraft carriers in military attire, and makes bellicose speeches about "never backing down." Although alleged "records" about Bush's tenure in the National Guard are now being disseminated to quell rumors that Bush did not fulfill all his required duties, they appear to be inspiring more questions than answers. The primary one appears to be, "Was Bush being paid for National Guard service while engaging in other enterprises, thus making his alleged service' more a paper illusion than a reality?" Would it not be the ultimate hypocrisy if the man who started the war with Iraq, and whose political party persistently condemns those living on government "doles," is revealed to have been the recipient of unearned government income? The fact that nobody can remember Bush during his "National Guard" days (although don't be surprised if, in a few days, a "witness" magically appears), and the acrimonious defensive posture of those profiting from his dictatorship, also raises questions. This was starkly revealed after one of the nation's biggest sell-outs--and the man who lied to the United Nations--Secretary of State Colin Powell, exclaimed "Don't go there," when a Congressperson tried to raise questions about "Massa Bush's" military record. Then there is the venal avarice of one of the primary provocateurs of the Iraqi war, Dick, "I never met a deferment I didn't like" Cheney. Using several such deferments to avoid military service in Vietnam, Cheney has now also "bravely" become a "war hawk." >Latest News The American Way A Letter from Our Reader: "Stupid" is a naughty word Too little, too late Iraq Intelligence Failure Was Unavoidable The kaleidoscopic arguments of Bush and Blair And why not? Companies in which he and/or his cronies have financial interests were "awarded" lucrative "rebuilding" contracts in Iraq. Tax dollars to destroy a country, tax dollars to rebuild it, young people dying to make it all happen, while the rich avoid military service, yet instigate wars so they can become richer. Ah, the American way!! And legalities or illegalities, and little nuisances like "The Bill of Rights," do not worry the Bush dictatorship, because in Cheney's hip pocket is "duck hunting" buddy, and Supreme Court "(in)justice," Antonin Scalia, one of the architects of the Bush dictatorship (no conflict of interest there I suppose), a virulent demagogue who would probably be more at home in a white robe and pointed hat than a black one, and a hypocrite who has arbitrarily determined that the legal rules of ethics apply to everyone but him. Finally one should not forget Secretary of Offense Donald Rumsfeld. When I was a communications professor, I used to tell my students that those with weak arguments usually endeavored to disguise such weaknesses by talking loudly. So it was no surprise when newspaper reports described Rumsfeld as "shouting" when responding to questions about the failure to find "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq. There are some who have told me, with the most honorable of intentions, that perhaps my work would be better received if I toned down my "rhetoric." While I respect and value their opinions, it is time to acknowledge that America is in the grip of an evil so corrupt, so infectious, and so devious that it already may be too late to find a cure. We now have a nation where outrage resounds and the halls of Congress thunder with "indignation" because an overrated singer exposed her overrated breast during an overrated football game. Yet similar outrage is not expressed over the deaths of hundreds of American and British soldiers, and thousands of Iraqis, all caused by outright lies now being whitewashed as "intelligence" failures. Politicians bluster about "decency," but continue to find nothing indecent about a thief who first stole the presidency, then exploited military resources and personnel to satiate his megalomania and enrich his cronies. And while Americans demand tougher laws and penalties to combat "indecency," they remain disturbingly unconcerned about how often the people entrusted to interpret the law arrogantly place themselves above it. So whenever a member of the Bush dictatorship talks about truth, decency, ethics, or integrity, those listening would be wise to remember the words Ralph Waldo Emerson said about an after-dinner speaker: "The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our silverware."
-- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the
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Ken Smith wrote: => Vox Populi wrote: --= m K0 =-- wrote: Man, Amerikans sure are sloooooooooooow. Took you long enough to figure out an AWOL son of a crook, ex-crack addict, dyslexic alcoholic just might not be Je$us' representative here on Earth like he claimed. That it's more likely that he just might be a figurehead for the Texas Oil Mafia... We knew he was a crook and son of a crook, a dyslexic alcoholic, and much worse. But sadly, the alternative left much to be desired.... Your choice ... now the chickens have come home to roost. The American Way David R. Hoffman, Legal Editor Pravda.ru Which is not much better than either Putin, or Putin. :) Finally, after more than three years of sycophantic worship of the corruptly appointed Bush dictatorship, some in the corporate-controlled media in America are beginning to question what more perceptive journalists had questioned years before: George W. Bush's so-called "military" record. The corporate controlled media only says what their corporate masters allow them to say -- is it any better in Russia these days? At least the average Russian doesn't believe his gov't ... I don't think the average American tends to believe their gov't either, but you have to put some faith in them since we elected them.
You blithering idiot: Study Finds Widespread Misperceptions on Iraq Highly Related to Support for War Misperceptions Vary Widely Depending on News Source Fox Viewers More Likely to Misperceive, PBS-NPR Less Likely For release: 12 Noon, October 2, 2003 Contact: Steven Kull 202-232-7500 College Park, MD: A new study based on a series of seven nationwide polls conducted from January through September of this year reveals that before and after the Iraq war, a majority of Americans have had significant misperceptions and these are highly related to support for the war with Iraq. The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals' primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely. An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found, 22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, and 25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions. Such misperceptions are highly related to support for the war. Among those with none of the misperceptions listed above, only 23% support the war.
Among those with one of these misperceptions, 53% support the war, rising to 78% for those who have two of the misperceptions, and to 86% for those with all 3 misperceptions.
Steven Kull, director of PIPA, comments, "While we cannot assert that these misperceptions created the support for going to war with Iraq, it does appear likely that support for the war would be substantially lower if fewer members of the public had these misperceptions." The frequency of Americans' misperceptions varies significantly depending on their source of news. The percentage of respondents who had at least one or more of the three misperceptions listed above is shown below. None of the 3 misconceptions: FOX 20% CBS 30% ABC 39% NBC 45% CNN 45% PrintSources 53% NPR/PBS 77% 1 or more misperceptions FOX 80% CBS 71% ABC 61% NBC 55% CNN 55% PrintSources 47% NPR/PBS 23% Variations in misperceptions according to news source cannot simply be explained as a result of differences in the demographics of each audience, because these variations can also be found when comparing the rate of misperceptions within demographic subgroups of each audience. Another key perception-one that US intelligence agencies regard as unfounded-is that Iraq was directly involved in September 11. Before the war approximately one in five believed this and 13% even said they believed that they had seen conclusive evidence of it. Polled June through September, the percentage saying that Iraq was directly involved in 9/11 continued to be in the 20-25% range, while another 33-36% said they believed that Iraq gave al-Qaeda substantial support. [Note: An August Washington Post poll found that 69% thought it was at least "somewhat likely" that Saddam Hussein was personally involved in 9/11-a different question than the PIPA/KN question that asked respondents to come to a conclusion.] In the run-up to the war misperceptions were also highly related to support for going to war. In February, among those who believed that Iraq was directly involved in September 11, 58% said they would agree with the President's decision to go to war without UN approval. Among those who believed that Iraq had given al Qaeda substantial support, but was not involved in September 11, approval dropped to 37%. Among those who believed that a few al Qaeda individuals had contact with Iraqi officials 32% were supportive, while among those who believed that there was no connection at all just 25% felt that way. Polled during the war, among those who incorrectly believed that world public opinion favored going to the war, 81% agreed with the President's decision to do so, while among those who knew that the world public opinion was opposed only 28% agreed. While it would seem that misperceptions are derived from a failure to pay attention to the news, in fact, overall, those who pay greater attention to the news are no less likely to have misperceptions. Among those who primarily watch Fox, those who pay more attention are more likely to have misperceptions. Only those who mostly get their news from print media have fewer misperceptions as they pay more attention. The level of misperceptions varies according to Americans' political positions. Supporters of President Bush and Republicans are more likely to have misperceptions.
Perhaps the reluctance to broach this issue, particularly amongst D
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, "Cowboy67" <cowboy67111NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote: At least the average Russian doesn't believe his gov't ... Why should you do that? Shouldn't you question Halliburton's crimes? Or how Anthrax from a U$ military lab wound up in letters to leading Demorats? Why we're in a war with Iraq instead of getting the Islamic WMD that DOES exist in Pakistan? You know, Pakistan, that military dictatorship that's currently harboring Bin Laden? Quite a chance Bu$h is taking leaving those nukes right within reach of Al Qaeda isn't it? The Bu$h administration is either the greatest collection of blundering, incompetent imbeciles the world has seen since the Hitler administration, or they are the worst mass murderers in the "civilized" western world seen since the Hitler administration. Don't trust the government. Don't trust the media. Don't trust the church. Then you will know the Truth.
CowBoy is too busy guzzling neo-con cock to know who to trust, all he cares about is that his pimps toss him $5 now and then ... -- "We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into a latter- day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an unwinable urban guerilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into ever greater instability." -George H. W. Bush Sr. 1998
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