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in article 0c2230pfe4qn18i9g9nr8ru6luhnbm414f@4ax.com, Pastor Dave at
nospam-draymond@minister.com wrote on 2/16/04 1:19 PM:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:13:35 GMT, "jabriol"
<jabriol@borijan.org> spake thusly:
And yet, we watch the evolutionists fail to see this.
Rape is not a necessary biological behavior, even if it (like murder) can be
said to be "natural". In point of fact, no scientist or even "evolutionist"
I know defends all natural behavior as "right".
Evolution no more justifies immoral behavior than does the Christian
doctrine of "once saved always saved". I have heard the doctrine of Christ's
preservation of His saints labeled as a way to sin with impunity. After all,
if one can't be lost again, why not sin all you want? But such a doctrine
ignores the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and the fact that when a person
cries out for salvation from sin they are not asking for license to wallow
in it.
I am sure that you would object to Christian theology being so labeled as
license for sin? Then why do you abuse science (and scientists) by
attributing to evolution a morally bereft position it does not, has not, and
never will take? You are sinning when you lie, you know.
Now think about it. If "evolutionists fail to see" that evolution provides
an excuse for a rapist, then maybe it doesn't make that excuse at all! Maybe
the accusation is just another one of the Creationist Pack of Lies (TM).
You claim to be a Pastor. Please, sir, act like one! Renounce your lies and
your false claims against evolution. If Creationism is the truth, then you
should present positive evidence for the truth, rather than promote a false
witness against what and those you disagree with.
Raymond E. Griffith
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in article 0c2230pfe4qn18i9g9nr8ru6luhnbm414f@4ax.com, Pastor Dave at
nospam-draymond@minister.com wrote on 2/16/04 1:19 PM:
You claim to be a Pastor. Please, sir, act like one! Renounce your lies
and
your false claims against evolution. If Creationism is the truth, then you
should present positive evidence for the truth, rather than promote a
false
witness against what and those you disagree with.
Raymond E. Griffith
Raymond, you have told lies about what creationists say WTR to salvation.
That is verifiable. You disagree with YEC's that is clear, but must you
promote false witness against us by lying? When are you going to apologize?
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Raymond, you have told lies about what creationists say WTR to salvation.
You would know, as an expert extraordinaire for lying, wouldn't you,
fundie boy?
When are you going to apologize?
Never will he. You still owe us all an apology for all your lying and
deliberate idiocy. ;)
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"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in message news:<NjAYb.26995$D_5.17519@edtnps84>...
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Raymond, you have told lies about what creationists say WTR to salvation.
That is verifiable. You disagree with YEC's that is clear, but must you
promote false witness against us by lying? When are you going to apologize?
Hey JISTer! We're still waiting for you to present some of that "real
operational puts us on the moon science" that you claim "favors
special creation. Especially of stars." Bilodeau is counting on you
fulfilling that promise of real scientific evidence FOR creation that,
so far (over a period of decades) ONLY YOU could provide (ie, no other
creationist has ever been able to produce any that anybody knows of).
Why don't you present it? Does this mean that you were only lying,
just like all the other creationists?
You also have to support or retract those several false accusations
you made regarding my posts in the "Re: Help me understand creation
science, please." thread on alt.talk.creationism . You made those
claims, so it's your responsibility to support them. Funny how it's
always the creationists who try to avoid responsibility for their own
actions, isn't it?
And you still need to answer my counter-question (to your question of
"And may I ask if you consider yourself to be a Christian?", which I
did answer):
"Now, do YOU consider yourself to be a Christian? If so, then how do
you justify the use of lies and deception in the service of your god?"
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