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Wednesday, February 18, 2004
Coach's remarks about kicker cited by prez
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The University of Colorado placed head football coach Gary Barnett
on administrative leave Wednesday night as allegations of rape and sordid
recruiting practices continue to swirl around the program.
Earlier Wednesday, school president Becky Hoffman said that she was
"reserving judgment" on Barnett's future as she publicly adminished Barnett
for "unacceptable" criticism of former kicker Katie Hnida, who had just come
forward to say she was raped.
Hoffman also said earlier Wednesday that she wanted to know whether there is
a "breach of responsibility" regarding the coach's knowledge of the use of
sex and alcohol to entice recruits. The president said that she needed to
wait for an investigation by an independent panel appointed by the Board of
Regents, but that personnel changes would come if the report suggested
impropriety.
"We need to know what did coach know (and) when," Hoffman said. "If the
allegations are true, we'll probably have new personnel ... My job is at
stake, as well."
At the heart of the scandal are federal lawsuits filed by three women who
say they were raped by football athletes at or after a December 2001
off-campus recruiting party. Boulder County prosecutor Mary Keenan decided
against assault charges in the case, saying the heavy drinking involved
would make it too difficult to prove in court. But Keenan gave a deposition
in one of the federal suits and said the athletics department offers sex and
alcohol to recruits.
Gov. Bill Owens demanded action and the regents formed an independent panel
to investigate. It will begin its work in March. Hoffman also said the
university will hire a special official to oversee the athletics department
report directly to her office.
Hnida, 22, added to the growing scandal earlier this week when she claimed
she was raped by a teammate in 2000 after her final season at Colorado.
Hoffman said she was shocked by the allegation and urged Hnida to tell
police so they can investigate.
Barnett told reporters Tuesday that Hnida never told him about a sexual
assault and he knew of no evidence to back up her claim. He said the
football program tried to make Hnida comfortable and had provided extra
precautions when she told him about a stalker. But he also bluntly
criticized Hnida's ability.
"It was obvious Katie was not very good. She was awful," he said. "Katie was
not only a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other way to say it."
Hoffman said that statement was out of line.
"I have told him in no uncertain terms that that was an unacceptable
remark," she said. "You have a rape allegation here. That's a very serious
criminal allegation. It's simply inappropriate to essentially blame the
victim, which is what he did."
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CU has recently been named Pimp-U by a local paper.
No worries on hearing any other news here in Boulder, the only thing that we
are going to hear about for years here is this. The Ramsey story is tired
now. Or it could be Kenan's misdirection since she's re-opened the Ramsey
investigation and really doesn't want to be quiried about that.
paul tiger
Wednesday, February 18, 2004
Coach's remarks about kicker cited by prez
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The University of Colorado placed head football coach Gary
Barnett
on administrative leave Wednesday night as allegations of rape and sordid
recruiting practices continue to swirl around the program.
Earlier Wednesday, school president Becky Hoffman said that she was
"reserving judgment" on Barnett's future as she publicly adminished
Barnett
for "unacceptable" criticism of former kicker Katie Hnida, who had just
come
forward to say she was raped.
Hoffman also said earlier Wednesday that she wanted to know whether there
is
a "breach of responsibility" regarding the coach's knowledge of the use of
sex and alcohol to entice recruits. The president said that she needed to
wait for an investigation by an independent panel appointed by the Board
of
Regents, but that personnel changes would come if the report suggested
impropriety.
"We need to know what did coach know (and) when," Hoffman said. "If the
allegations are true, we'll probably have new personnel ... My job is at
stake, as well."
At the heart of the scandal are federal lawsuits filed by three women who
say they were raped by football athletes at or after a December 2001
off-campus recruiting party. Boulder County prosecutor Mary Keenan decided
against assault charges in the case, saying the heavy drinking involved
would make it too difficult to prove in court. But Keenan gave a
deposition
in one of the federal suits and said the athletics department offers sex
and
alcohol to recruits.
Gov. Bill Owens demanded action and the regents formed an independent
panel
to investigate. It will begin its work in March. Hoffman also said the
university will hire a special official to oversee the athletics
department
report directly to her office.
Hnida, 22, added to the growing scandal earlier this week when she claimed
she was raped by a teammate in 2000 after her final season at Colorado.
Hoffman said she was shocked by the allegation and urged Hnida to tell
police so they can investigate.
Barnett told reporters Tuesday that Hnida never told him about a sexual
assault and he knew of no evidence to back up her claim. He said the
football program tried to make Hnida comfortable and had provided extra
precautions when she told him about a stalker. But he also bluntly
criticized Hnida's ability.
"It was obvious Katie was not very good. She was awful," he said. "Katie
was
not only a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other way to say it."
Hoffman said that statement was out of line.
"I have told him in no uncertain terms that that was an unacceptable
remark," she said. "You have a rape allegation here. That's a very serious
criminal allegation. It's simply inappropriate to essentially blame the
victim, which is what he did."
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Paul Tiger wrote:
CU has recently been named Pimp-U by a local paper.
No worries on hearing any other news here in Boulder, the only thing
that we are going to hear about for years here is this.
Back when beady-eyed babble-thumping Bill McCartney was in charge,
CU had a never ending stream if world-class thugs, rapists and felons
on the fuuubaaa team. It was quire karmic when it turned out his own
daughter was the entire team's toss-around little @$#*slut who has so
much sperm packed in her that when that mulatto 1/2 breed baby was born
there was no tellin' who the daddy was ... so in classic political style
they pinned it on the dying/dead guy who fell on his sword as it were for
the team.
The Ramsey
story is tired now. Or it could be Kenan's misdirection since she's
re-opened the Ramsey investigation and really doesn't want to be
quiried about that.
Or maybe Keenan is crazy like a fox and is pretending to entertain
the absurd intruder theory to lull psycho Patsy into a trap ...?
O.J is still just a slip of the lip away from confessing, in ignorance,
to killing Nichole and Ron, and he's just stupid enough to think
that he can't/couldn't be prosecuted for it.
paul tiger
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- Vox Populi wrote:
Wednesday, February 18, 2004
Coach's remarks about kicker cited by prez
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The University of Colorado placed head football coach Gary Barnett
on administrative leave Wednesday night as allegations of rape and sordid
recruiting practices continue to swirl around the program.
What I want to know is why, if we had such a great recruiting program
(and *so* many women willing to spread their legs for the cause), that
CU's recruiting class under Barnett always ranks in the 40s and 50s. I
mean, it's not like players have to live in Michigan or Nebraska....
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- Vox Populi wrote:
Wednesday, February 18, 2004
Coach's remarks about kicker cited by prez
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The University of Colorado placed head football coach Gary
Barnett on administrative leave Wednesday night as allegations of
rape and sordid recruiting practices continue to swirl around the
program.
Earlier Wednesday, school president Becky Hoffman said that she was
"reserving judgment" on Barnett's future as she publicly adminished
Barnett for "unacceptable" criticism of former kicker Katie Hnida,
who had just come forward to say she was raped.
Hoffman also said earlier Wednesday that she wanted to know whether
there is a "breach of responsibility" regarding the coach's knowledge
of the use of sex and alcohol to entice recruits. The president said
that she needed to wait for an investigation by an independent panel
appointed by the Board of Regents, but that personnel changes would
come if the report suggested impropriety.
"We need to know what did coach know (and) when," Hoffman said. "If
the allegations are true, we'll probably have new personnel ... My
job is at stake, as well."
At the heart of the scandal are federal lawsuits filed by three women
who say they were raped by football athletes at or after a December
2001 off-campus recruiting party. Boulder County prosecutor Mary
Keenan decided against assault charges in the case, saying the heavy
drinking involved would make it too difficult to prove in court. But
Keenan gave a deposition in one of the federal suits and said the
athletics department offers sex and alcohol to recruits.
Gov. Bill Owens demanded action and the regents formed an independent
panel to investigate. It will begin its work in March. Hoffman also
said the university will hire a special official to oversee the
athletics department report directly to her office.
Hnida, 22, added to the growing scandal earlier this week when she
claimed she was raped by a teammate in 2000 after her final season at
Colorado. Hoffman said she was shocked by the allegation and urged
Hnida to tell police so they can investigate.
Barnett told reporters Tuesday that Hnida never told him about a
sexual assault and he knew of no evidence to back up her claim. He
said the football program tried to make Hnida comfortable and had
provided extra precautions when she told him about a stalker. But he
also bluntly criticized Hnida's ability.
"It was obvious Katie was not very good. She was awful," he said.
"Katie was not only a girl, she was terrible. OK? There's no other
way to say it."
Hoffman said that statement was out of line.
"I have told him in no uncertain terms that that was an unacceptable
remark," she said. "You have a rape allegation here. That's a very
serious criminal allegation. It's simply inappropriate to essentially
blame the victim, which is what he did."
--
"Naturally, the common people don't want war;
neither in Russia nor in England nor in America,
nor for that matter in Germany.
That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine the policy and
it is always a simple matter to drag the people
along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist
dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing
the country to danger. It works the same way
in any country."
- Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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aul Tiger wrote:
Bill McCartney had god on his side -- can we recall the Promise
Naw ... they didn't keep their promises ...
Keepers? Bill brought gay bashing to a new high in Boulder.
Men were Men, boys were Men - god fearing good Men.
And women were the subserviend chattle/whores their gaaawd
deemed them to be.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he
must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young
woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has
relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and
there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though
she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I
will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to
your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done
this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel,
and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan
answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die.
But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you
must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.)
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT
Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands them
over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the captives a
beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and want to marry her. If this
happens, you may take her to your home, where she must shave her head, cut her
fingernails, and change all her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for
a full month, mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her.
But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must let her go
free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave, for you have humiliated
her.
Bring back Bill McCartney and the promise keepers!
Punxsutawney Paul 4 Commish
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other
religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved
from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we
were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to
Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered
all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic
groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods
sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit
impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to
life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in
their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of
those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will
spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion
the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to
convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in
"tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers.
You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the
Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
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Wednesday, February 18, 2004
Coach's remarks about kicker cited by prez
ESPN.com news services
DENVER -- The University of Colorado placed head football coach Gary
Barnett
on administrative leave Wednesday night as allegations of rape and sordid
recruiting practices continue to swirl around the program.
Oh, hell. Everybody engages in these practices. It's what you have to do
to have a winning team.
- Uncle Samuel
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Gilly wrote:
Oh, hell. Everybody engages in these practices.
You li like the filthy festering whore that you are, Spammy.
It's what you have
to do to have a winning team.
Then why not volunteer you little, ripe, pink spucy spunkhole for
"the good of the team" ...
- Uncle Samuel
We see that your perverted grotesque god approves of rape ...
--
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged,
he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young
woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has
relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and
there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help
though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house.
I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to
your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have
done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all
Israel,
and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord."
Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin:
you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed,
the child born to you must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.)
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT
Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God
hands them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see
among the captives a beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and
want to marry her. If this happens, you may take her to your home,
where she must shave her head, cut her fingernails, and change all
her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for a full month,
mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her.
But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must
let her go free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave,
for you have humiliated her.
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Gilly wrote:
Oh, hell. Everybody engages in these practices. It's what you have to do
to have a winning team.
Uh, there's just one thing missing, guys: A winning team. :-P
If CU did all they are alleged to have done [considering the Top Five
talent walking around the campus up there (I'm talking about the co-eds,
of course ;-) )], you'd expect a bumper crop of recruits every year. I
mean, it beats living in Ann Arbor or especially, Lincoln....
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Barnett
Oh, hell. Everybody engages in these practices. It's what you have to do
to have a winning team.
YM "thuggenous"
a.
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owza! nice to be an atheist
Paul Tiger wrote:
Naw ... they didn't keep their promises ...
And women were the subserviend chattle/whores their gaaawd
deemed them to be.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
engaged, he
must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the
young
woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce
her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has
relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city
and
there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help
though
she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house.
I
will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them
to
your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have
done
this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all
Israel,
and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan
answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not
die.
But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born
to you
must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.)
Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT
Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands
them
over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the captives
a
beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and want to marry her. If
this
happens, you may take her to your home, where she must shave her head, cut
her
fingernails, and change all her clothes. Then she must remain in your
home for
a full month, mourning for her father and mother. After that you may
marry her.
But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must let her
go
free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave, for you have
humiliated
her.
Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by
other
religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people
evolved
from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim
that we
were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a
Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to
Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered
all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire
ethnic
groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods
sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit
impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came
back to
life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the
scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find
nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen
sitting in
their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the
exception of
those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival
sects - will
spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your
religion
the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have
failed to
convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in
"tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered
prayers.
You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that
the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about
the
Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a
Christian.
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aul Tiger wrote:
Yowza! nice to be an atheist
At least for the women ...
sects - will
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Ken Smith <forget@it.com> wrote in message news:<40350970.8020406@it.com>...
- Vox Populi wrote:
What I want to know is why, if we had such a great recruiting program
(and *so* many women willing to spread their legs for the cause), that
CU's recruiting class under Barnett always ranks in the 40s and 50s. I
mean, it's not like players have to live in Michigan or Nebraska....
Where Ken Smith Hangs out:
http://www.moynihaninstitute.org
And we thought we had scrpaed the Bottom of the Barrel????
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Donald L Ferrt wrote:
Ken Smith <forget@it.com> wrote in message news:<40350970.8020406@it.com>...
Where Ken Smith Hangs out:
http://www.moynihaninstitute.org
And we thought we had scrpaed the Bottom of the Barrel????
Cute site, Duder!
We ought to fire Barnett, not because he doesn't do it but because
his guys got caught. Win at any cost!!! Go, CU!!!!! ;-P
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