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True-Xians vs. False-Xians - Checklist



Adiudicator
2/23/2004 11:59:45 PM


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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
True-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
While we know there were probably minor errors
in copying and translating the bible, its inte-
grity has survived. It's truly the word of God,
and is likely better than 99.99% verbatim what
was originally intended by its ancient authors.
2) Jesus Christ is everything and much, much more
than the bible says he was, is and will always
be. Is he truly the son of the almighty God of
of the universe? True-Xians know to answer Yes.
Is Jesus one with God the father? Indeed he is.
Did he die for our sins? God knows that he did.
Is Jesus God? Indeed, you have said that he is.
3) There are divine laws of superconscious origin,
meaning God all-knowingly, all-intelligently &
all-presently created the entire universe with
divine purpose infinitely exceeding every mans
ability to fully comprehend it. God is smarter
than we are. True-Xians are humble before YHWH,
the ancient Hebrew name for the God of Abraham;
said to be unpronounceable, though some say it
is pronounced "YaoHu'WaH", "YaHWeH" or Jehovah.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical Muslim jihadists-terrorists
around the globe. This is shaping up to be our
Xian Crusade against Anti-Judeo-Xian militants.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are fighting world war three, and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
For one to be Anti-American is to be Anti-Xian.
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The loving mother MUST be willing to sacrifice
her life to save the life of a child. A father
must be similarly willing to sacrifice himself
to save a child's life. As for first-trimester
abortions, a pregnant woman ultimately decides,
although both mother and father must recognize
that there'll be hell to pay for such iniquity.
Is it as evil as late-term abortion? Maybe not,
but preventing pregnancy is the best way to go.
In other words DON'T put God to a foolish test.
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't respect the sanctity of Family
is Anti-Xian. A True-Xian roundly condemns all
forms of sodomy and homosexuality, and we must
fight against same-sex "marriage" to the death
if need be. We'll NEVER sanction homosexuality.
______________________________________________
False-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is only par-
tially correct. You can reject any part of the
bible which you don't understand or agree with.
Part of it says to love your enemy while other
parts instruct us to punish and kill the enemy.
Just because the bible clearly states that you
can love -AND- kill the enemy, we'll simply ig-
nore the bible verses that we don't agree with.
2) Jesus Christ was an extraordinary man, but was
nevertheless just a man. The "resurrection" of
Jesus is only a metaphor for spiritual healing.
To believe that Jesus or anybody else actually
rose from the dead is preposterous, impossible
and just as ludicrous as Jesus' "virgin birth".
3) Man made "God" in his own image. We came first,
thus "God" is but a figment of our imagination.
There's no illimitable omnipresent, omniscient
and omnipotent conscious creator of the entire
universe anywhere in corporeal existence. What
we call "God" should only be referred to as an
"it", not a "he". But if you want to call it a
"she", then that's okay, since it's "shocking"
to true-Xians who believe in a heavenly father
of the whole universe, one God who is aware of
every atom and molecule, every star and galaxy,
every form of matter, from nothing to infinity.
That is merely absurd to believe in such a God.
4) False-Xians, at least here in America, are sel-
dom very zealous, but we're mostly honest with
those who we trust. We are pretty hard working,
but our patriotism is lukewarm. We like to pro-
test against war no matter what its cause. And
we do NOT want true-Xian values in politics or
science, in law or education. But it's okay if
true-Xians want to worship hidden away from so-
ciety in a church somewhere...just stay out of
public view and stay away from our White House!
Let's dismantle our military, and surrender to
foreign UN control. Return Saddam to Iraq, and
let's bring all of our troops home to stay. We
have no business meddling in foreign countries,
and we're worried about what Anti-Xian foreign
nations think about the United States. If they
hate us, it's strictly the fault of true-Xians
who are giving America such a "bad" name. This
is why we need to ban true-Xians from entering
American law and politics. That's the solution.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical true-Xians around the globe.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are trying to hurt and kill nothing but
innocent civilians. The USA has lied to us and
they lie about Saddam. False-Xians are all for
peace, prosperity, rights, and privileges, but
we reject responsibility and any laws we don't
agree with. Also, let's stop supporting Israel.
Anti-Xians understand True-Xians are the enemy,
those in foreign lands and patriotic Americans.
To be Anti-American is to be a real False-Xian.
6) Late-term, or even partial-birth abortions are
NOT murder! The mother can sacrifice her child
to save her own life. The father can sacrifice
the child to
 
 
"Yeah Rite"
2/23/2004 8:32:42 PM


Pretty close!
Actually the Bible IS God's own words as He INSPIRED the word into the ears
of the human writers. They were serving only as vessels of the Word and did
not change anything nor let their own personalities into any of it.
Picture God standing beside, say, Moses, and speaking the EXACT words to
write down.
That is where the Bible came from. Incontestable, complete, absolute Word
of the One True Living God.


"Adiudicator" <Adiudicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in message
news:Q4RZC6AJ38040.9992708333@Gilgamesh-Frog.org...

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
True-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
While we know there were probably minor errors
in copying and translating the bible, its inte-
grity has survived. It's truly the word of God,
and is likely better than 99.99% verbatim what
was originally intended by its ancient authors.
2) Jesus Christ is everything and much, much more
than the bible says he was, is and will always
be. Is he truly the son of the almighty God of
of the universe? True-Xians know to answer Yes.
Is Jesus one with God the father? Indeed he is.
Did he die for our sins? God knows that he did.
Is Jesus God? Indeed, you have said that he is.
3) There are divine laws of superconscious origin,
meaning God all-knowingly, all-intelligently &
all-presently created the entire universe with
divine purpose infinitely exceeding every mans
ability to fully comprehend it. God is smarter
than we are. True-Xians are humble before YHWH,
the ancient Hebrew name for the God of Abraham;

 
 
Dan Evans
2/24/2004 3:59:47 AM


On 23 Feb 2004 23:59:45 +0100, Adiudicator
<Adiudicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote:
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There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
Thanks for sharing.
<plonk>
*Dan Evans
*"One is not superior merely because one
*sees the world as odious."
*Francios Rene de Chateaubriand (1768-1848).
 
 
gordonb.e2x1m@sneaky.lerctr.org (Gordon Burditt)
2/24/2004 5:06:18 AM


There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
Is a true-Xian a false Christian and a false-Xian a true Christian?
Gordon L. Burditt
 
 
"Namib"
2/24/2004 3:50:20 PM


"Gordon Burditt" <gordonb.e2x1m@sneaky.lerctr.org> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:c1em4a$rvd@library2.airnews.net...
Is a true-Xian a false Christian and a false-Xian a true Christian?
....And who is, this Lu Wu Xian? :)
Namib
 
 
Dave Oldridge
2/24/2004 6:45:43 PM


diudicator <Adiudicator.Pro@God.Bless.America> wrote in
news:Q4RZC6AJ38040.9992708333@Gilgamesh-Frog.org:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
True-Xians believe:
1) The canon of Judeo-Xian scriptures is the word
of God as testified to by men & women who were
inspired by the spirit to be writing/dictating.
Hmmm....I read through the ancient creeds of the Church, you know, those
statements of faith designed to separate heretics from "True Christians
(TM)." None of them mention this clause. It seems as if it only really
appears in the history of Christian literature about the time Luther and
Calvin were kicking over the traces of apostolic authority.
While we know there were probably minor errors
in copying and translating the bible, its inte-
grity has survived. It's truly the word of God,
and is likely better than 99.99% verbatim what
was originally intended by its ancient authors.
This of course is not relevant to the FUNDAMENTAL fact that you have
enunciated an entirely novel doctrine above. It's nice that our copies
of the Bible are accurate, but not relevant to your claim above.
2) Jesus Christ is everything and much, much more
than the bible says he was, is and will always
be. Is he truly the son of the almighty God of
of the universe? True-Xians know to answer Yes.
Is Jesus one with God the father? Indeed he is.
Did he die for our sins? God knows that he did.
Is Jesus God? Indeed, you have said that he is.
This is in the ancient creeds, so yes, unless you believe it, you're not
Christian.
3) There are divine laws of superconscious origin,
meaning God all-knowingly, all-intelligently &
all-presently created the entire universe with
divine purpose infinitely exceeding every mans
ability to fully comprehend it. God is smarter
than we are. True-Xians are humble before YHWH,
the ancient Hebrew name for the God of Abraham;
said to be unpronounceable, though some say it
is pronounced "YaoHu'WaH", "YaHWeH" or Jehovah.
There is no actual pronunciation for the tetragrammaton. Jewish
believers never pronounce the name of God or even try to. They generally
substitute Adonai (meaning "Lord") in its place and the vowel points used
are those of that word. That Christians are humble before God is a
given, but heretics are usually NOT humble before God. Instead, they are
arrogant before Him, demanding that others bow before THEM.
4) True-Xians, at least here in the United States
of America, are zealously honest, hard working
and patriotic citizens of our great nation. We
will sacrifice life and limb to defend the USA
against enemy forces, and we'll wholeheartedly
support our Commander and Chief in war & peace.
Nonsense. TRUE Christians will ask all the same questions that any
peacenik is asking. They may not come to the same answers, but they
support no civil authority, only that of God. If the civil authority
demands worship of false gods, such as Mammon or Moloch, then the civil
authority MUST NOT BE OBEYED in these demands.
5) As the 21st century continues to unfold, we're
fighting fanatical Muslim jihadists-terrorists
around the globe. This is shaping up to be our
Xian Crusade against Anti-Judeo-Xian militants.
I don't know if this crusade is so much Christian is it is Mammonite.
There is too much oil and $$$ mixed with the blood of the sacrifices.
True Christians cannot lend themselves to war for these goals. There IS
such a thing as a "just war" but we must always question our political
leadership's motives. If we stop doing that, we may be led into
supporting a cult that worships not God, but the power of military might
and money. There were excellent reasons for going to war in Afghanistan
and even some good ones (but not the ones you were given) for going to
war in Iraq. But your leaders held Saddam's coat while he attacked Iran
(twice) for no other reason than that he wanted their territory and oil,
then turned on him when he extrapolated that "support" to taking Kuwait's
territory and oil. No matter what the Iranians did to YOU, there was no
excuse for that and your nation owes Iran an apology for it at the very
least.
Ever since September 11, 2001, America and her
allies are fighting world war three, and there
are bound to be more attacks against Americans,
Israelis, and other nations sympathetic to our
cause of bringing freedom and democracy to the
world--with peace, prosperity, rights, and pri-
vileges for responsible, law-abiding citizenry.
True-Xians understand Anti-Xians are the enemy,
be they foreigners, or unpatriotic "americans".
For one to be Anti-American is to be Anti-Xian.
Yeah, right. Just what yofe need. A fascist dictatorship running around
checking whether people are "True-Xians." You know what. I think YOU
are working for Satan and you're trying to undermine the faith of
Christians in Jesus Christ and move it to some fancy made-up religion
you've created by trying to rewrite the creed. I'll take the Nicene
Creed as MY test of what is Christian and what is not and you can go to
hell with your false creeds and screeds. How's that?
6) Late-term abortions are most definitely murder.
The loving mother MUST be willing to sacrifice
her life to save the life of a child. A father
must be similarly willing to sacrifice himself
to save a child's life. As for first-trimester
abortions, a pregnant woman ultimately decides,
although both mother and father must recognize
that there'll be hell to pay for such iniquity.
Is it as evil as late-term abortion? Maybe not,
but preventing pregnancy is the best way to go.
In other words DON'T put God to a foolish test.
While I agree that abortion is an evil, we must not remove from doctors
the right to do triage. A doctor treating a pregnant woman has two
patients to consider, not just one. Sometimes disease or injury will
create a situation where the prognosis dictates the treatment and
sometimes terminating a pregnancy is the indicated treatment. If it DOES
come down to saving either the mother or the child, then I would leave
that decision with her, her doctor, and any spiritual advisers she may
wish to consult, not demand politically that she "sacrifice" herself for
the child.
7) Family is the cornerstone of civilization. Any-
one who doesn't resp
 
 
Dave Oldridge
2/24/2004 6:47:20 PM


"Yeah Rite" <YeahRite@here.net> wrote in
news:WQx_b.1214$Ri6.1001@lakeread04:
Pretty close!
Actually the Bible IS God's own words as He INSPIRED the word into the
ears of the human writers. They were serving only as vessels of the
Word and did not change anything nor let their own personalities into
any of it.
Picture God standing beside, say, Moses, and speaking the EXACT words
to write down.
That is where the Bible came from. Incontestable, complete, absolute
Word of the One True Living God.
And another idolater speaks up.
When will you people realize that you cannot press God into a book like a
dead leaf.
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
 
 
Dave Oldridge
2/24/2004 6:48:06 PM


gordonb.e2x1m@sneaky.lerctr.org (Gordon Burditt) wrote in news:c1em4a
$rvd@library2.airnews.net:
There are some fundamental contrasts between what is
an actual Xian verses "casper milktoast" phony xians:
Is a true-Xian a false Christian and a false-Xian a true Christian?
No, Xian is some kind of Amerikan thing. I don't think it has anything to
do with Christians.
--
Dave Oldridge
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
 
 
"Chas"
2/24/2004 12:44:32 PM


"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote
Hmmm....I read through the ancient creeds of the Church, you know, those
statements of faith designed to separate heretics from "True Christians
(TM)." None of them mention this clause. It seems as if it only really
appears in the history of Christian literature about the time Luther and
Calvin were kicking over the traces of apostolic authority.
I don't generally do fan letters, but; what an absolutely sterling post,
sir.
Chas
 
 
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