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"John Seeliger"
2/28/2004 10:49:59 PM


Recently, on a web forum, I, living in an area where I could obtain certain
deals on computer parts, agreed to ship items to people for $5 above cost,
mostly as a courtesy, not necessarily for the money. One potential customer
wanted instead of using paypal to send cash, which I strongly recommended
against. I also found out he was only 15.
Are there any legal complications involved in receiving cash transactions?
Theorically, it seems it would be better for the seller, because after all,
the buyer, in order to sue me would have to prove he or she sent me the
money and furthermore, I would suppose, that I received it and didn't ship
the goods. Not that I am planning on cheating anyone, but just observing
that it would seem harder to win a case against me. However, even though it
seems better in theory, I would guess it practice, it would be far worse.
The other question regards selling to a minor. Under what circumstances can
a transaction be voided and I be forced to refund the money and what would I
have to do to protect myself? Should I tell this individual his parents
must purchase the item? Should I request written permission from a parent?
What if I am unaware the individual is a minor? Would it matter if he or
she used fraud to misrepresent her or his age? If I ask the person's age
and they claim to be 18 or over, and I in good faith execute a transaction,
could I be forced to refund the money still?
I am asking this partly because this is not really a business and it would
hardly be worth the $5 to run that risk. Furthermore, after 15 days I could
not return the items to the store myself, and would be stuck with them,
should I be forced to refund the money.
Thanks.
 
 
"McGyver"
2/29/2004 7:46:00 AM




"John Seeliger" <jseelige@hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:c1rr1j$1lihfj$1@ID-146094.news.uni-berlin.de...

Recently, on a web forum, I, living in an area where I could
obtain certain
deals on computer parts, agreed to ship items to people for $5
above cost,
mostly as a courtesy, not necessarily for the money. One
potential customer
wanted instead of using paypal to send cash, which I strongly
recommended
against. I also found out he was only 15.
Are there any legal complications involved in receiving cash
transactions?
Theorically, it seems it would be better for the seller, because
after all,
the buyer, in order to sue me would have to prove he or she sent
me the
money and furthermore, I would suppose, that I received it and
didn't ship
the goods. Not that I am planning on cheating anyone, but just
observing
that it would seem harder to win a case against me. However,
even though it
seems better in theory, I would guess it practice, it would be
far worse.
Sending cash is the buyer's risk, not yours. You should tell the
buyer that if the money is stolen by a postal employee or
whatever, you won't ship the goods and its not your problem. You
should also tell the buyer that a money order would be safer, or
Western Union, or a check written by a parent or a friend. Also,
you can do what most sellers do, and specify "Don't Send Cash."
The other question regards selling to a minor. Under what
circumstances can
a transaction be voided and I be forced to refund the money and
what would I
have to do to protect myself? Should I tell this individual his
parents
must purchase the item? Should I request written permission
from a parent?
What if I am unaware the individual is a minor? Would it matter
if he or
she used fraud to misrepresent her or his age? If I ask the
person's age
and they claim to be 18 or over, and I in good faith execute a
transaction,
could I be forced to refund the money still?
I am asking this partly because this is not really a business
and it would
hardly be worth the $5 to run that risk. Furthermore, after 15
days I could
not return the items to the store myself, and would be stuck
with them,
should I be forced to refund the money.
Minors can enter into contracts. Their contracts are valid as
long as they last. The only difference is that minors have the
right to dissaffirm their contracts. That means they can cancel.
There are variations from state to state. One variation is
whether they have to give back the goods in order to get the money
back. So it would be safer for you to decline to sell to a minor.
That's another reason to insist on a check. If you were in
business, you might decide the risk is pretty small and go ahead
and sell to minors. But if you are not making profits, you might
decide that there is no incentive to take any risk.
McGyver
 
 
Keith
2/29/2004 11:43:17 PM


On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 22:49:59 -0600,
John Seeliger <jseelige@hotpop.com> wrote:
Recently, on a web forum, I, living in an area where I could obtain certain
deals on computer parts, agreed to ship items to people for $5 above cost,
mostly as a courtesy, not necessarily for the money. One potential customer
wanted instead of using paypal to send cash, which I strongly recommended
against. I also found out he was only 15.
Are there any legal complications involved in receiving cash transactions?
The risk is all in the buyer sending cash through the mail. Since this
is a minor tell them they can buy a money order at the post office that
has protection against loss or theft and fraud and that is better than
sending cash.
The only thing you have to worry about minors purchasing from you is
contract law. If you offer a warranty there may be problems, but not
if you sell as is equipment. If you are selling kits or items that
require installation or construction then you may want to have the
minors legal guardian involved.
I once had a buyer send me $240 in twenty dollar bills through the
mail in a 4.5 X 9.5" standard envelope to buy electronic equipment,
I couldn't believe it.
--
Best Regards, Keith
NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
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