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By Pascal Fletcher CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the United States. Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first time the outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility of cutting off oil supplies to the United States. Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products to the U.S. market. The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech to supporters in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing opposition attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil exporter. "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to blockade Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, the people of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach them from Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of cheering supporters. Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. criticism of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But the Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure oil supplier to the United States. In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, supporting a short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not serious" accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting efforts to topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to secure a recall referendum against him this year. Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate Venezuelan oil refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the state oil firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. oil operations in his country. "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" and added the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's nationalistic political control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by employees in December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production and exports. More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by Chavez, who replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to pre-strike levels of above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers opposed to the president say production is running well below this. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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By Pascal Fletcher CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the United States.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does Bush want regime change in Venezuela ? Iraq yesterday, Haiti today, Venezuela tomorrow ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first time the outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility of cutting off oil supplies to the United States. Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products to the U.S. market. The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech to supporters in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing opposition attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil exporter. "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to blockade Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, the people of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach them from Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of cheering supporters. Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. criticism of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But the Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure oil supplier to the United States. In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, supporting a short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not serious" accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting efforts to topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to secure a recall referendum against him this year. Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate Venezuelan oil refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the state oil firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. oil operations in his country. "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" and added the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's nationalistic political control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by employees in December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production and exports. More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by Chavez, who replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to pre-strike levels of above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers opposed to the president say production is running well below this.
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grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote: By Pascal Fletcher CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the United States.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does Bush want regime change in Venezuela ? Iraq yesterday, Haiti today, Venezuela tomorrow ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-- "Either the world will be ruled according to the ideas of our modern democracy, or the world will be dominated according to the natural law of force; in the latter case the people of brute force will be victorious." G.W. Bush or Adolf Hitler ? Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first time the outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility of cutting off oil supplies to the United States. Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products to the U.S. market. The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech to supporters in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing opposition attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil exporter. "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to blockade Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, the people of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach them from Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of cheering supporters. Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. criticism of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But the Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure oil supplier to the United States. In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, supporting a short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not serious" accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting efforts to topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to secure a recall referendum against him this year. Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate Venezuelan oil refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the state oil firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. oil operations in his country. "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" and added the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's nationalistic political control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by employees in December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production and exports. More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by Chavez, who replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to pre-strike levels of above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers opposed to the president say production is running well below this. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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Wounded : a photo-reporter from AFP with a 9 mm weapon in Caracas = manifestations against Chavez. Jovencito disparo con arma de 9mm en el pecho a fotografo de AFP = =20 Chavez apuesta a Bush "quien dura m=C3=A1s, Usted en la Casa Blanca o = yo en Miraflores" =20 =20 Un camarografo y un fotografo heridos en manifestaciones en Caracas = =20 Chavez afirma que Bush no es presidente legi=ADtimo de EEUU =20 Chavez asegura que no le pasara lo del renunciante Aristides... =20 Chavistas esperan resultados de referendo al grito de=20 =A1Fuera Bush!" =20 =20 Si EEUU invade a Venezuela, no recibiri=ADa mas petroleo de este = pai=ADs=20 (Chavez) =20 Opositores vuelven a bloquear calles y avenidas en el=20 este de Caracas=20 =20 OUT CHAVEZ AND THE CUBAN MERCENARIES HE INTRODUCED IN VENEZUELA TO = PROTECT HIS OWN AMBITIONS ! OUT CHAVEZ ! FUERA TRAIDOR ! the multitudes shouted all over = Caracas.!
By Pascal Fletcher =20 CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez =
warned the U.S.
government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a =
trade
blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil =
supplies to the
United States. =20 Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first =
time the
outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility =
of cutting
off oil supplies to the United States. =20 Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products =
to the U.S.
market. =20 The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech =
to supporters
in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing =
opposition
attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil =
exporter.
=20 "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to =
blockade
Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, =
the people
of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach =
them from
Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of =
cheering
supporters. =20 Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. =
criticism
of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But =
the
Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure =
oil supplier
to the United States. =20 In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, =
supporting a
short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. =20 The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not =
serious"
accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting =
efforts to
topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to =
secure a
recall referendum against him this year. =20 Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate =
Venezuelan oil
refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the =
state oil
firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. =
oil operations
in his country. =20 "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. =20 Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" =
and added
the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." =20 The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's =
nationalistic political
control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by =
employees in
December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production =
and exports.
=20 More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by =
Chavez, who
replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. =20 Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to =
pre-strike levels of
above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers =
opposed to the
president say production is running well below this. =20 =20 --=20 =20 "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." =20 - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall =20 =20
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Just for the sake of clarity: in Venezuela "pendejo" is used as meaning silly, not "asshole". R III
| By Pascal Fletcher || CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. | government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade | blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the | United States. || Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first time the | outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility of cutting | off oil supplies to the United States. || Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products to the U.S. | market. || The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech to supporters | in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing opposition | attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil exporter. || "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to blockade | Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, the people | of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach them from | Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of cheering | supporters. || Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. criticism | of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But the | Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure oil supplier | to the United States. || In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, supporting a | short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. || The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not serious" | accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting efforts to | topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to secure a | recall referendum against him this year. || Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate Venezuelan oil | refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the state oil | firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. oil operations | in his country. || "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. || Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" and added | the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." || The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's nationalistic political | control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by employees in | December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production and exports. || More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by Chavez, who | replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. || Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to pre-strike levels of | above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers opposed to the | president say production is running well below this. ||| -- || "Naturally, the common people don't want war; | neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, | nor for that matter in Germany. | That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders | of the country who determine the policy and | it is always a simple matter to drag the people | along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist | dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist | dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can | always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. | That is easy. All you have to do is tell them | they are being attacked and denounce the | pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing | the country to danger. It works the same way | in any country." || - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall ||
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:18:27 +1100, "Richard III" <paininyourknowwhat@Noble.net> wrote:
Just for the sake of clarity: in Venezuela "pendejo" is used as meaning silly, not "asshole". R III
For the sake of clarity, in Venezuela, pendejo is meant as asshole. Just like the pendejo who wrote the above and who is not even Venezuelan.
| By Pascal Fletcher || CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. | government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade | blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the | United States. || Although the context Chavez gave was hypothetical, it was the first time the | outspoken Venezuelan leader had publicly mentioned the possibility of cutting | off oil supplies to the United States. || Venezuela is among the four top suppliers of crude and oil products to the U.S. | market. || The left-wing Venezuelan leader made the warning in a fiery speech to supporters | in which he accused U.S. President Bush's administration of backing opposition | attempts to oust him from the presidency of the world's No. 5 oil exporter. || "Mr. Bush must know that if he gets the mad idea of trying to blockade | Venezuela, or, even worse, of invading Venezuela, if that happened, the people | of the United States should know that not a drop of oil would reach them from | Venezuela, not a drop more," Chavez told tens of thousands of cheering | supporters. || Ties between Washington and Caracas have been badly strained by U.S. criticism | of Chavez's rule, and his sharp condemnation of U.S. policies. But the | Venezuelan government has always insisted it will remain a secure oil supplier | to the United States. || In his speech, Chavez also called Bush an "asshole" for, he said, supporting a | short-lived coup in 2002 that briefly toppled him. || The U.S. government has repeatedly dismissed as false and "not serious" | accusations by the populist president that Washington is supporting efforts to | topple him. His opponents accuse him of blocking a bid by them to secure a | recall referendum against him this year. || Chavez said that if the U.S. government tried to confiscate Venezuelan oil | refineries in the United States, run by the Citgo affiliate of the state oil | firm Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), he could do the same to U.S. oil operations | in his country. || "There are plenty of American installations here," he said. || Chavez said U.S. oil magnates were manipulating Bush "like a puppet" and added | the United States wanted to "get its hands on PDVSA." || The Venezuelan president has tightened his government's nationalistic political | control over PDVSA since the company was rocked by a strike by employees in | December 2002 and January 2003 that badly disrupted oil production and exports. || More than 18,000 PDVSA workers who joined the strike were fired by Chavez, who | replaced them with soldiers and loyal personnel. || Venezuela's government says oil output has been restored to pre-strike levels of | above 3 million barrels per day (bpd). But fired PDVSA managers opposed to the | president say production is running well below this. ||| -- || "Naturally, the common people don't want war; | neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, | nor for that matter in Germany. | That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders | of the country who determine the policy and | it is always a simple matter to drag the people | along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist | dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist | dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can | always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. | That is easy. All you have to do is tell them | they are being attacked and denounce the | pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing | the country to danger. It works the same way | in any country." || - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall ||
"The Right of people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Free men own guns - slaves don't
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x-no-archive: Yes Ramoncho <ramon@surebase.com> wrote in message news:<c1vh4n$1nbsif$42@ID-170870.news.uni-berlin.de>...
grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote: By Pascal Fletcher CARACAS, Venezuela(Reuters) - Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez warned the U.S. government Sunday that if it tried to invade Venezuela or impose a trade blockade against his country, he would shut off Venezuelan oil supplies to the United States. I don't know about Bush? But I do want free elections to change this regime. That's the bottomline, we are asking for elections.
LOL. You had free elections. You lost. You'll have free elections again in two years time. You'll lose again. And you know it.
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Beelzebu DasHell <devil@hell.com> wrote in message news:<18l540diopotbdrrbt8d1le0rnn77er0cn@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:31:14 +0000, grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote: God willing
Consider it DONE .... God and The World is on the side of the coalition of willing my friend ....
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Beelzebu DasHell <devil@hell.com> wrote in message news:<18l540diopotbdrrbt8d1le0rnn77er0cn@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 02:31:14 +0000, grub@internet.charitydays.co.uk wrote: God willing
P.S ... Correction I meant "U.S.-led coalition of willing" ..... That's all.
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