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4% of Catholic priesthood abused kids in their care REUTERS , WASHINGTON Sunday, Feb 29, 2004,Page 7 "It's always bad when a child is abused, but when the abuser wears a collar, it's worse. Much of the blame ... must be placed on the higher-ups." Robert Bennett, attorney on a panel probing child abuse More than 10,600 children said they were molested by priests since 1950 in an epidemic of child sexual abuse involving at least 4 percent of US Roman Catholic clergy, two studies reported on Friday. The reports' release brought an apology from Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, and complaints from victims that the reports had focused on the abusers but not on the bishops who failed to stop them. One of the reports, written by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, revealed that 10,667 children were allegedly abused by 4,392 priests from 1950 to 2002. But the report said the figures depend on self-reporting by the bishops and were probably an undercount. This study found reports of abuse peaked with the ordination class of 1970, from which one in 10 priests was eventually accused of abuse. Most victims were male, and of those, the largest single age group was boys from 11 to 14 years old. Alleged abuse ranged from touching, with or without clothing, to oral sex and sexual intercourse. Some US$572 million has been paid in damages to abuse victims, the report said. But it noted that this did not include US$85 million paid by the Archdiocese of Boston, where the sex-abuse scandal first grabbed headlines two years ago, and that 14 percent of dioceses were not able to provide figures. The finding that at least 4 percent of American Roman Catholic priests were involved in child sexual abuse differs markedly from the figure of "less than 1 percent" offered in 2002 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The second report, a 145-page examination of the causes and context of the priestly sexual abuse crisis, was crafted by a panel of prominent Catholics who found systemic problems in the way candidates for the priesthood were chosen and guided. "It's always bad when a child is abused, but when the abuser wears a collar, it's worse," said attorney Robert Bennett, a member of the panel. "Much of the blame, unfortunately ... must be placed on the higher-ups." The panel found two main factors contributing to priestly child sexual abuse, Bennett said at a news conference: Dioceses failed to keep those "dysfunctional and psycho-sexually immature men" out of the priesthood, and candidates for the priesthood were ill-prepared for lives of celibacy in a highly sexualized age. -- "Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly..." -- Isaac Asimov,
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Sphincter Therapy - God's Will
1000s of Catholic priesthood abused kids in their care REUTERS , WASHINGTON Sunday, Feb 29, 2004,Page 7 "It's always bad when a child is abused, but when the abuser wears a collar, it's worse. Much of the blame ... must be placed on the higher-ups." Robert Bennett, attorney on a panel probing child abuse More than 10,600 children said they were molested by priests since 1950 in an epidemic of child sexual abuse involving at least 4 percent of US Roman Catholic clergy, two studies reported on Friday. The reports' release brought an apology from Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, and complaints from victims that the reports had focused on the abusers but not on the bishops who failed to stop them. One of the reports, written by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, revealed that 10,667 children were allegedly abused by 4,392 priests from 1950 to 2002. But the report said the figures depend on self-reporting by the bishops and were probably an undercount. This study found reports of abuse peaked with the ordination class of 1970, from which one in 10 priests was eventually accused of abuse. Most victims were male, and of those, the largest single age group was boys from 11 to 14 years old. Alleged abuse ranged from touching, with or without clothing, to oral sex and sexual intercourse. Some US$572 million has been paid in damages to abuse victims, the report said. But it noted that this did not include US$85 million paid by the Archdiocese of Boston, where the sex-abuse scandal first grabbed headlines two years ago, and that 14 percent of dioceses were not able to provide figures. The finding that at least 4 percent of American Roman Catholic priests were involved in child sexual abuse differs markedly from the figure of "less than 1 percent" offered in 2002 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, head of the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. The second report, a 145-page examination of the causes and context of the priestly sexual abuse crisis, was crafted by a panel of prominent Catholics who found systemic problems in the way candidates for the priesthood were chosen and guided. "It's always bad when a child is abused, but when the abuser wears a collar, it's worse," said attorney Robert Bennett, a member of the panel. "Much of the blame, unfortunately ... must be placed on the higher-ups." The panel found two main factors contributing to priestly child sexual abuse, Bennett said at a news conference: Dioceses failed to keep those "dysfunctional and psycho-sexually immature men" out of the priesthood, and candidates for the priesthood were ill-prepared for lives of celibacy in a highly sexualized age.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NAB If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her. Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. 2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives (plural) while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.' Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." (The child dies seven days later.) Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NLT Suppose you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God hands them over to you and you take captives. And suppose you see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you are attracted to her and want to marry her. If this happens, you may take her to your home, where she must shave her head, cut her fingernails, and change all her clothes. Then she must remain in your home for a full month, mourning for her father and mother. After that you may marry her. But if you marry her and then decide you do not like her, you must let her go free. You may not sell her or treat her as a slave, for you have humiliated her.
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Jack Nichols wrote:
I think Robert Bennett is just out for publicity -he has no credibility when he awards a bogus claimant like Paula Jones. Why doesn't he investigate serious issues like the murder of Laci Peterson?
What's worse, the killing of one pregnant woman, or the systemic anal rape and sodomy of 10,000s of children in the name of "god" ...? Do support your answer, points will be given for logic and clarity.
Date: 2004-02-29 18:08:15 David Sween wrote: The case against Scott Peterson has been aired in the National Enquirer and it does not belong in any court room where Kangaroo Justice does not prevail. Mark Geragos does not need a defense to make it clear that it is not plausible to legitimately convict a man who has been cleared by 24/7 scrutiny. The slanderous and spurious allegations which are now called "the evidence" have been published in detail, in the National Enquirer and if this disinformation is to be pawned off to an unsuspecting jury, they need to be informed. And so, if the trial against Scott Peterson is to be fair, the judge must instruct the jury accordingly; "Members of the jury, I am supplying you with 10 issues of the National Enquirer. The theories of nine of the issues have been rejected by the prosecution because they made you all laugh. The January 6, 2004 issue is indisputable because the National Enquirer published a picture of Merlin the tracking dog, and THAT is what you call INDISPUTABLE evidence. If, in your infinite wisdom, you determine that the National Enquirer is a credible source, you must find guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. If you think that the National Enquirer is not credible, then Investigators like David Sween gets the last word." This case is clearly over as far as the guilt or the innocence of Scott Peterson is concerned. The judge in the Laci Peterson murder trial was supposed to be Richard Arnason, a retired Contra Costa County judge who was choseny by California Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald George. Arnason is a well known, criminal law expert with extensive death penalty case experience and having served on the Superior Court of Contra Costa County for 31 years, he would never tolerate the tactics of prosecutors who are pretending to have a case against Scott Peterson. Needless to say, the prosecutors had to shop around, to find a judge who was willing to listen to a case that would have been thrown out a long time ago, if a reasonable judge like Arnoson was not replaced. Clearly, any Judge who determines that the National Enquirer had showed probable cause that Scott Peterson had killed 27-year-old Laci, who was nine months pregnant, and dumped her body in San Francisco Bay, needs his head examined. I know what I am talking about. In my experience, reasonable and fair Judges are irresponsibly replaced when prosecutors understands the weakness of their case. Michael Cardoza, a criminal defense attorney in the San Francisco Bay area, thought that both the prosecution and the defense would approve of Arnason and every legal expert was shocked to hear he had been replaced. "He does what's right and he controls his courtroom," said Cardoza, who tried a case before Arnason in 1998. If the prosecution had a case, they would have accepted Arnason. Instead, they made sure he was disqualified because they [try not to laugh] claimed that an experienced and distinguished judge was biased against them. Mark Geragos is understandably frustrated and angered by the kangaroo court that the prosecutors are seeking to construct for the sake of lynching Scott Peterson. The prosecution selected judge is even refusing to sequester the jury, and in this case, a jury that is not sequestered is subject to the manipulation that the Skakel jury was subjected to, when demagogues like Dominick Dunne dined within earshot of the jurors that lynched Michael Skakel. Needless to say, this prosecution is seeking an equally creative way to manipulate the Peterson jury; is that why they opposed the request to sequester the jury? Judge Alfred A. Delucchi said jurors will be allowed to go home each night with an admonishment not to discuss the case, "and we'll see what happens." We'll see what happens, if this selected fool who is supposed to be a judge, continues to preside over a kangaroo court. I repeat; The case against Scott Peterson is OVER, because Scott Peterson, the most investigated man in America, has been absolutely cleared by 24/7 scrutiny. In the alternative, you can promote the so called credibility of the January 6, 2004 issue of the National Enquirer, because every other issue has prompted widespread laughter --and now, it's just a matter of time... before the media rejects the latest fraud. http://www.geocities.com/botenth/national.htm _
-- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote in message news:<aZJ0c.12$e25.17753@news.uswest.net>...
Jack Nichols wrote: What's worse, the killing of one pregnant woman, or the systemic anal rape and sodomy of 10,000s of children in the name of "god" ...? Do support your answer, points will be given for logic and clarity.
sure, you sound like a sick pervert ! like the morons who murdered Laci Peterson -any connection? so sad -the MORONS who murdered Chandra Levy and Laci Peterson have failed to frame Scott. 719 Date: 2004-03-07 16:26:11 David Sween ( no email / no homepage) wrote: As I have repeatedly indicated, Scott did not dump his wife in the Bay, her body was deliberately planted, to implicate Scott Peterson. If Scott had in fact murdered Laci and dumped her in the Bay, sonar searches would have located the body. Indeed, a sonar search just recovered a man from Idaho, who was just located at the bottom of Auke Bay. Visibility is not a factor in Sonar searches because experts measure a reflection of sound and not light. The only reason that Laci was not located is because she was not there, and that is probably because she was buried in a shallow grave. Speculation aside, sonar searches failed to recover the body, and that is because there was no body to recover. It was obviously planted to implicate Scott Peterson, and that is clearly what sonar searches have proved. 718 Date: 2004-03-06 05:08:47 Bruno Jasienski ( no email / no homepage) wrote: Do not fear your enemies. The worst they can do is kill you. Do not fear your friends. At worst, they may betray you. Fear those who do not care; they neither kill nor betray, but betrayal and murder exist because of their silent consent. 717 Date: 2004-03-03 21:27:13 David Sween ( no email / no homepage) wrote: Why does Judge Delucchi contradict himself? In his own words, "I'm persuaded the dog tracking in and around Modesto can't be corroborated'' said Delucchi. "You can't cross-examine the dog." Delucchi, however, ruled that prosecutors will be able to present a separate piece of dog-tracking evidence that places Laci Peterson's scent at the very pier where her husband said he left for an afternoon of fishing on the day she went missing. The jury will hear testimony from an expert dog handler whose Labrador retriever Trimble followed Laci Peterson's scent from the parking lot of the Berkeley Marina to the edge of the pier. Court precedent requires corroboration of any dog-tracking evidence, Delucchi said, and called the marina evidence admissible because Scott Peterson admitted going to the marina, and Laci Peterson and her fetus washed ashore 2 1/2 miles from the marina four months later. What does that have to do with the need to follow Laci's scent? Where is the corroboration? Did anybody see Laci at the Marina? Is Judge Delucci going to cross-examine the dog? This judge does not make any sense. First and foremost, the crap that Delucci has chosen to call evidence is straight out of the National Enquirer, and this is the direct quote: "And Trimble, another Lab tracking dog, produced the most compelling evidence against Scott. He showed that Scott left his warehouse in his truck, headed for the Berkeley Marina, and the dog picked up Laci's scent at the marina!" Is Judge Delucchi going to cross-examine the dog? Moreover, Delucchi has selectively excluded dog tracking evidence because Modesto police detective Al Brocchini called off a search even though a bloodhound named Merlin appeared to be following Laci Peterson's scent, and that is not justifiable. Where is the corroboration? Who saw Laci at the marina? Eyewitnesses corroborated the fact that Scott was at the marina, alone. This is extremely bizarre and presumptuous corroboration -like denying Merlin the tracking dog, the opportunity to follow Laci Peterson's scent. Delucchi's peculiar obsession to dismiss the fact that nobody saw Laci at the marina, not to mention the fact that she was witnessed walking her dog on December 24th, clearly indicates that the so called, "corroborated" dog-tracking evidence is nothing more than the bizarre theory that the National Enquirer publicized. That is not even what you call evidence, let alone, corroborated evidence. 716 Date: 2004-03-03 03:35:51 Mike ( no email / no homepage) wrote: Judge rules that the "evidence" published in the National Enquirer on January 6, is admissable ! LOL Dogs tracked Laci's scent to a boat she had never been on. Fascinating ! Sounds like dogs don't know the difference between Scott and Laci's property, since Scott had handled it. For those who don't know the diff, that's called contaminated evidence --but what else do you expect from the National Enquirer? You would think that a judge would know better. 715 Date: 2004-03-01 21:45:35 John Ashcroft's Justice Department is involved? ( no email / no homepage) wrote: "They have report after report after report of investigations that were taking place in December," Geragos said. "These items are negative for my client. I've got pages upon pages of hair comparisons that exclude my client at every single point." Prosecutor David Harris said they were working with the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigations to turn over the reports. "We're doing the best we can," Harris told Delucchi. "We're going up the chain and saying you need to get this done." 714 Date: 2004-03-01 16:14:28 Joe Sneider ( no email / no homepage) wrote: Oh Fred, you are so gentle with your leading questions, don't beat around the bush ! These idiots are trying to suggest that Scott Peterson made cement anchors, used them to sink Laci, and he just left one behind so that the geniuses can trace it back to Scott. These MORONS are so stupid, it will be a huge shock if the entire jury does not die laughing before this is over. 713 Date: 2004-03-01 15:38:19 Fred Sanfilippo ( no email / no homepage) wrote: The bodies of Laci Peterson and the baby were simultaneously recovered in April along the shores of San Francisco Bay, not far from where Scott Peterson was reported fishing on the day his wife vanished - Christmas Eve, 2002. Who is gullible enough to believe that Scott Peterson directed the opportunity to frame himself? 712 Date: 2004-02-29 18:08:15 David Sween ( no email / no homepage) wrote: The case against Scott Peterson has been aired in the National Enquirer and it does not belong in any court room where Kangaroo Justice does not prevail. Mark Geragos does not need a defense to make it clear that it is not p
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