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Kevin wrote:
=> Vox Populi wrote: Yes, they improved business in my area . I went out of state last week to buy a hard top for a Jeep. The local dealer lost $1700.00 in sales, and I saved $119.00 in sales tax. I voted on local smoking bans with my wallet.
So besides being a pathetic lowlife drug addict, you brag about being a tax evading criminal too ... how quaint. Yes numbnuts, the law mandates that you pay your HOME STATE sales/use tax for any item brought back and used in your state, regardless of where or how you ordered/purchased it. You owe your home state the $119.00 difference, no surprise that junkie scum like you are also criminals in other aspects. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:10:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
So besides being a pathetic lowlife drug addict, you brag about being a tax evading criminal too ... how quaint. Yes numbnuts, the law mandates that you pay your HOME STATE sales/use tax for any item brought back and used in your state, regardless of where or how you ordered/purchased it. You owe your home state the $119.00 difference, no surprise that junkie scum like you are also criminals in other aspects.
Don't spread stupidity. There's no such law. Sales tax can only be collected by licensed merchants, in the states they do business. I know, I'm one of them. There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. They would need border patrol and customs, and it would cost way too much money to enforce such stupid law.
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stanlee_98@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:10:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: Don't spread stupidity. There's no such law.
You pig-ignorant addict.
Sales tax can only be collected by licensed merchants, in the states they do business.
Yep.
I know, I'm one of them.
Irrelevant.
There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state.
Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance.
They would need border patrol and customs, and it would cost way too much money to enforce such stupid law.
Only for tax evading criminal scumbags like you. The law mandates that YOU, the taxpayer, must declare and pay sales/use tax on anything you acquire and use/consume in your home state, regardless of where or how you acquire that. You are responsible for declaring and paying your State sales tax personally for any items you acquire from out of State and bring back into your State. Figures a lowlife addict scumbag like you would also be a common criminal. -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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stanlee_98@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 10:10:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: Don't spread stupidity. There's no such law. Sales tax can only be collected by licensed merchants, in the states they do business. I know, I'm one of them. There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. They would need border patrol and customs, and it would cost way too much money to enforce such stupid law.
Vox is correct. There isn't a mechanism for collecting cigarette taxes from out-of-state purchasers, but every state with a sales tax has a corresponding use tax, which is required of anyone who USES property (on which state sales tax has NOT been paid) in the state.
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:26:44 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state.
Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance.
Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter. Phil
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:36:39 GMT, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter.
GOOD!!!!!
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:26:44 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter.
And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ...
Phil
-- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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Uncle Samuel wrote:
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 22:36:39 GMT, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote: GOOD!!!!!
Fuck you Spammy, you can't possibly be on the right side of this, or any, argument ... you're lying. -- "Imagine the people who believe such things and who are not ashamed to ignore, totally, all the patient findings of thinking minds through all the centuries since the Bible was written. And it is these ignorant people, the most uneducated, the most unimaginative, the most unthinking among us, who would make themselves the guides and leaders of us all; who would force their feeble and childish beliefs on us; who would invade our schools and libraries and homes. I personally resent it bitterly..." -- Isaac Asimov,
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Arthur L. Rubin wrote:
stanlee_98@yahoo.com wrote: Vox is correct.
Owwwch. That musta hurt, eh Arty? And it's probably going to leave a mark...
There isn't a mechanism for collecting cigarette taxes from out-of-state purchasers, but every state with a sales tax has a corresponding use tax, which is required of anyone who USES property (on which state sales tax has NOT been paid) in the state.
And it is the responsibility of the citizen to declare and remit same to their State. -- "There is no U$ flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people" -Howard Zinn
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:49:48 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
Phil wrote: And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ...
Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice. Phil
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:50:34 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
Uncle Samuel wrote: Fuck you Spammy, you can't possibly be on the right side of this, or any, argument ... you're lying.
I'm not sure who you're replying to, Vox. I'm guessing me because of your vulgar and immature tone. Bar and restaurant owners had a choice before smoking was made illegal in these businesses; they chose to allow smoking. Then the government came along and decided that the business owners shouldn't have a choice in the matter. Phil
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:50:34 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: I'm not sure who you're replying to, Vox. I'm guessing me because of your vulgar and immature tone.
Wrong again dip#@($, learn how to read a usenet thread, moron.
Bar and restaurant owners had a choice before smoking was made illegal in these businesses; they chose to allow smoking.
Wrong choice.
Then the government came along and decided that the business owners shouldn't have a choice in the matter.
Just as they don't have any choice in complying with the Fire Codes or the Building Codes or the Food Safety Codes or the Employment Codes or .... drum roll please .... The No Smoking Codes ... yeeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Any questions?
Phil
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:49:48 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice.
Is there a choice as to whether to pay taxes due? Didn't think so.
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In article <dcma4053tnr5hlli1u8cvklc5k3iivb9l9@4ax.com>, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
Bar and restaurant owners had a choice before smoking was made illegal in these businesses; they chose to allow smoking. Then the government came along and decided that the business owners shouldn't have a choice in the matter.
It wasn't that simple. People changed. They stopped going to bars that encouraged drinking a lot and driving home drunk. They went to restaurants and were disgusted with tobacco smoke because they lost tolerance to it because it was no longer permitted in the place they encountered it most--the workplace. Governments just dragged the rest of society kicking and screaming into the present.
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On 2 Mar 2004 18:30:17 -0700, anon3c67@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
In article <dcma4053tnr5hlli1u8cvklc5k3iivb9l9@4ax.com>, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote: It wasn't that simple. People changed. They stopped going to bars that encouraged drinking a lot and driving home drunk. They went to restaurants and were disgusted with tobacco smoke because they lost tolerance to it because it was no longer permitted in the place they encountered it most--the workplace.
And then Mayor Bloomberg surprised everyone by announcing hoiw he was going to outlaw smoking. There was no discussion on the subject. If he had mentioned his intentions while running for office, he probably wouldn't have been elected. Phil
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:15:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter. And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ... Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice.
Is there a choice as to whether to pay taxes due? Didn't think so.
Just like smoking in bars. Phil
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 02:11:15 GMT, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:15:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter. And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ... Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice. Just like smoking in bars. Phil
GOOD!
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In article <21qa40phpaqdqhmtsgfr6psg4jo4uogr8t@4ax.com>, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote:
On 2 Mar 2004 18:30:17 -0700, anon3c67@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote: And then Mayor Bloomberg surprised everyone by announcing hoiw he was going to outlaw smoking. There was no discussion on the subject.
He did not outlaw smoking.
If he had mentioned his intentions while running for office, he probably wouldn't have been elected.
I don't live in New York City so I don't know if restaurants have been going smokefree in recent years. Here, they have. You go to a fine place and it's nearly always smokefree. You so to an upscale steak house and they've got a cigar area separately ventilated from the rest. Even the more modest places have gone smokefree, especially if they are small in size. And I'm not talking fast food. They went a long time ago. We're probably a year away from a ban. 3/4 of the population does not smoke. And, presumably, they don't like to dine with others smoking up the place. And that includes smokers. He might have won by a larger margin if he used his intention to ban smoking in the campaign.
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On 2 Mar 2004 21:17:03 -0700, anon3c67@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote:
In article <21qa40phpaqdqhmtsgfr6psg4jo4uogr8t@4ax.com>, Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote: He did not outlaw smoking.
Allow me to correct myself: he banned it in bars and restaurants. He tried to ban it in Central Park.
I don't live in New York City so I don't know if restaurants have been going smokefree in recent years. Here, they have. You go to a fine place and it's nearly always smokefree. You so to an upscale steak house and they've got a cigar area separately ventilated from the rest. Even the more modest places have gone smokefree, especially if they are small in size. And I'm not talking fast food. They went a long time ago.
The laws first said that restuarants had to have a no-smoking section. Then they said no smoking in the restaurant, but you could smoke at the bar. Then it was smoking only in a smoking room. Then it was no smoking.
3/4 of the population does not smoke. And, presumably, they don't like to dine with others smoking up the place. And that includes smokers. He might have won by a larger margin if he used his intention to ban smoking in the campaign.
Bars and restaurants suffered as a result of the smoking ban (no matter what nonsense Vox posts). To make up for lost revenue, Bloomberg had the police start a ridiculous ticket-writing campaign. Phil
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 17:50:34 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: I'm not sure who you're replying to, Vox. I'm guessing me because of your vulgar and immature tone.
Its always about YOU Phil! ;-)
Bar and restaurant owners had a choice before smoking was made illegal in these businesses; they chose to allow smoking. Then the government came along and decided that the business owners shouldn't have a choice in the matter.
Like you always say, Phil, don't break the law. -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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Phil wrote:
On 2 Mar 2004 18:30:17 -0700, anon3c67@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote: And then Mayor Bloomberg surprised everyone by announcing hoiw he was going to outlaw smoking. There was no discussion on the subject.
They took the Coke out of Coca-Cola. Are you for them putting it back in?
If he had mentioned his intentions while running for office, he probably wouldn't have been elected.
Perhaps he didn't have this "intention" before he took office. -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:15:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter. And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ... Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice. Just like smoking in bars.
Which is now illegal. Are you advocating breaking the law, Phil? -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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Phil wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:26:44 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter.
Obey the law. Right, Phil? If your beloved Ghoulee had the law changed, would you be singing the same tune? -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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Phil <dogglebe@yahoooo.com> wrote in message news:<v5qa40hsarhi4bdlkuof0gc8me1os2bkg1@4ax.com>...
"=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance. Much like the same voluntary compliance that made all the bars and restaurants in New York go non-smoking? Wait a second! That wasn't voluntary. Bar and restaurant owners had no choice in this matter. And that has @$#* all to do with evading State sales tax ... Voluntary compliance.... or lack of choice. Just like smoking in bars. Phil
Neat, but the authoritarians will never get the point--They only support individual freedom when it suits them.
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Phil wrote:
On 2 Mar 2004 21:17:03 -0700, anon3c67@nyx.nyx.net (Bruce Watson) wrote: Allow me to correct myself:
So in your drug addled hysteria, you were wrong yet again eh?
he banned it in bars and restaurants. He tried to ban it in Central Park. The laws first said that restuarants had to have a no-smoking section.
Which of course didn't work.
Then they said no smoking in the restaurant, but you could smoke at the bar.
Again, they tried to accomodate the lowlfe addicted pukes, but it failed again.
Then it was smoking only in a smoking room.
Ibid.
Then it was no smoking.
Yep, that works just fine.
Bars and restaurants suffered as a result of the smoking ban (no matter what nonsense Vox posts).
Well, it's no surprise to anyone that you are lying yet again, loser.
To make up for lost revenue, Bloomberg had the police start a ridiculous ticket-writing campaign.
You really are a pathological imbecile, aren't you Phil?
Phil
-- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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slim wrote:
Phil wrote: They took the Coke out of Coca-Cola. Are you for them putting it back in?
I am.
Perhaps he didn't have this "intention" before he took office.
Or perhaps he realized it would be a resounding success, and kept it quiet.
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John Graeme wrote:
Neat, but the authoritarians will never get the point--They only support individual freedom when it suits them.
Or when it protects the public from lowlife scumbag junkies who would otherwise engage in their putrid noxious drug addiction in PUBLIC ... -- "Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi Reichsmarshall
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:26:44 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state.
Yes, there is. It's the same "system" that is used to collect income tax ... it's called voluntary compliance.
Where's the law? Can't find it?
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 18:15:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote:
Phil wrote: Is there a choice as to whether to pay taxes due?
Yes, there is. You don't know much.
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stanlee_98@yahoo.com wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 12:26:44 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: There's no system in place to collect sales tax from people who buy from out of state. Where's the law? Can't find it?
Not surprising, you're a @$#*ing idiot ...
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On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:39:07 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: Allow me to correct myself:
So in your drug addled hysteria, you were wrong yet again eh?
What drug are you talking about, Vox? Try talking like an adult. If he had mentioned his intentions while running for office, he probably wouldn't have been elected.
More lies from the junkie.
Second drug reference without anything to back it up. Then it was no smoking.
Yep, that works just fine.
That doesn't work at all. Many bars allow smoking at night. The police don't spot check them for smokers. 3/4 of the population does not smoke. And, presumably, they don't like to dine with others smoking up the place. And that includes smokers. He might have won by a larger margin if he used his intention to ban smoking in the campaign. Bars and restaurants suffered as a result of the smoking ban (no matter what nonsense Vox posts).
Well, it's no surprise to anyone that you are lying yet again, loser.
Can you back that with something besides anti-tobacco bull#@($? A reliable source, maybe? To make up for lost revenue, Bloomberg had the police start a ridiculous ticket-writing campaign.
You really are a pathological imbecile, aren't you Phil?
I'm beginning to think you're a sockpuppet of Mike's. That immature reasoning is there. Phil
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On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:48:10 GMT, slim <pickens486@nyc.rr.com> wrote: And then Mayor Bloomberg surprised everyone by announcing hoiw he was going to outlaw smoking. There was no discussion on the subject.
They took the Coke out of Coca-Cola. Are you for them putting it back in?
We're talking about smoking, Mike, not cocaine. Stay on topic.
Perhaps he didn't have this "intention" before he took office.
Bloomberg was sworn in as mayor on New Years Day, 2002. That August, he started pushing for amenmdments in the laws that would prohibit smoking in bars and restaurants. Eight months isn't much time to develope an idea and push it through the city council, especially so soon after 9/11. Phil
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Phil wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 08:39:07 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li> wrote: Allow me to correct myself: What drug are you talking about, Vox? Try talking like an adult.
Ahhhhhhhh, the standard retort of alleged superiority.
That doesn't work at all. Many bars allow smoking at night. The police don't spot check them for smokers.
Phil "The Giuilani-Lovin' Copsucker<tm>" advocates breaking the law!!
Can you back that with something besides anti-tobacco bull#@($? A reliable source, maybe?
SMOKING IS BANNED IN BARS AND RESTAURANTS. ITS THE LAW YOU MORON, To make up for lost revenue, Bloomberg had the police start a ridiculous ticket-writing campaign. You really are a pathological imbecile, aren't you Phil?
I'm beginning to think you're a sockpuppet of Mike's. That immature reasoning is there.
Vox is not me, asshole, read the headers. Gee, Phil, I guess you have "come out" in more ways than one! Now you advocate breaking the law? HYPOCRITE! -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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Phil wrote:
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 13:48:10 GMT, slim <pickens486@nyc.rr.com> wrote: And then Mayor Bloomberg surprised everyone by announcing hoiw he was going to outlaw smoking. There was no discussion on the subject. We're talking about smoking, Mike, not cocaine. Stay on topic. Bloomberg was sworn in as mayor on New Years Day, 2002. That August, he started pushing for amenmdments in the laws that would prohibit smoking in bars and restaurants.
We are taliking about your advocating lawbreaking, not 9/11. Stay on topic. Playing the 9/11 card is a cheap insult (but no suprise) coming from you.
Eight months isn't much time to develope an idea and push it through the city council, especially so soon after 9/11.
But anything your beloved Ghoulee did was OK with you. Phil, you wear the Hypocrite Bell around your neck. -- http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html "Bubba got a blowjob, BU$H screwed us all!" - Slim George "The AWOL President" Bush: http://awol.gq.nu/4dawol.htm WHY IRAQ?: http://www.angelfire.com/creep/gwbush/remindus.html http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/weapons.html#wms VOTE HIM OUT! November 4, 2004
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