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http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado. Julian Cook, a professor at Detroit College of Law at Michigan State University, says he sees both sides of the issue. "Proponents might argue that prosecution is necessary in order to assist prosecutors in their noble efforts to convict the perpetrator of such heinous crimes," Cook said. "Opponents might contend that the proposed rule might encourage the prosecution of otherwise innocent individuals." Depending on the level of violation, criminal sexual conduct carries a penalty of up to life in prison.
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality."
Western culture is a disease that needs to be stopped in most of its manifestations imperitively through any means necessary. Any means.
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http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A 1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto
LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault.
How much you want to bet that the good Sen. Patterson is carrying on a Newt-like affair with one of his interns?
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Sean Maccloud <s@y.com> wrote:
s_knight8 wrote: Western culture is a disease that needs to be stopped in most of its manifestations imperitively through any means necessary. Any means.
Then get out and move somewhere else. "Sean MacCloud" sounds pretty damn Western to me. -- Dave Zero "And I don't care about making an ass out of myself because most people already realize I am one." - Dr. Kary B. Mullis "I criticize by creation" - Cicero "I'm not here to make people happy. I prefer to piss people off." - Liam Gallagher
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"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht news:6bd12cd6.0403040735.622f9559@posting.google.com...
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto
LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said.
_Sometimes_ you think laws shouldn't be made by elected officials. Alex
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Sean Maccloud wrote:
s_knight8 wrote: Western culture is a disease that needs to be stopped in most of its manifestations imperitively through any means necessary. Any means.
I think this guy is a candidate for Guantanamo Bay. :-)
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LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado.
Does this mean that if this bill had been in effect when the incident with Kobe Bryant occurred, that SHE raped HIM !!!???!!! Gordon L. Burditt
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LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado.
Does this mean that if this bill had been in effect when the incident with Kobe Bryant occurred, that SHE raped HIM !!!???!!!
Yep Hey, what would happen if a married couple brought in a 3rd person for a menage? Would that be against this law? -Fred
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0403040735.622f9559@posting.google.com>...
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault.
Now here's a multiple choice question: A. They'll prosecute mainly men. B. They'll prosecute mainly women. C. They'll prosecute both equally.
"The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said.
No. It's about you getting more women to vote for you, shameless suck up.
His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado.
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Depending on the level of violation, criminal sexual conduct carries a penalty of up to life in prison.
That ought to get him in good with female voters. Women don't think there's any punishment bad enough for infidelity.
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On 4 Mar 2004 07:35:09 -0800, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado. Julian Cook, a professor at Detroit College of Law at Michigan State University, says he sees both sides of the issue. "Proponents might argue that prosecution is necessary in order to assist prosecutors in their noble efforts to convict the perpetrator of such heinous crimes," Cook said. "Opponents might contend that the proposed rule might encourage the prosecution of otherwise innocent individuals."
?????????? Glad Cook sees it, 'cause I sure don't. Assist prosecutors to convict what? Andy Katz ____________________________________ I sentence you to kiss my ass! The Simpsons amk@interport.net Andrewk271@aol.com Bastard Nation http://www.bastards.org
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) deliciously posted in news:6bd12cd6.0403040735.622f9559@posting.google.com:
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-M ICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault.
ROFLMAO... How many men and women would wind up being charged? I love it. They don't want same sex marriages and now they're trying to get into the bedrooms of heterosexuals.
"The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said.
This is too hilarious.
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Depending on the level of violation, criminal sexual conduct carries a penalty of up to life in prison.
ROFLMAOPIMP... Michael -- Deathbed statement... "Codeine . . . bourbon." ~~Tallulah Bankhead, actress, d. December 12, 1968
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Dave Zero wrote:
"Sean MacCloud" sounds pretty damn Western to me.
Makes what I'm saying all the more valid. I believe in scuttleing the ship.
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Chainsaw wrote:
I think this guy is a candidate for Guantanamo Bay. :-)
Who knows what that even means.
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Greg wrote:
Now here's a multiple choice question:
A. They'll prosecute mainly men. B. They'll prosecute mainly women. C. They'll prosecute both equally.
Dead on. Exactly. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said.
No. It's about you getting more women to vote for you, shameless suck up.
And if a law was created to stop female cuckholding (20 percent of births) and infidelity then it would be deemd a criminal outrage and oppression by society.
That ought to get him in good with female voters.
Notice he's a republician. Oppurtunitstic idiot; sub human. Mankind has a massive problem here like no problem in history.
Women don't think there's any punishment bad enough for infidelity.
Unless females commit it (which they rampantly do). Trust me, the western culture anglo world is the root problem here (along with the jews). We made a wrong turn somewhere and now it has become a problem that conformity instinct and patriotism instinct is simply mindlessly conforming to.
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Sean Maccloud wrote:
Dave Zero wrote: Makes what I'm saying all the more valid. I believe in scuttleing the ship.
Shut up, Sean. What a drama queen.
-- MF See L.A. for class On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard. The fans gave him a long ovation. The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his 20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan. Clinton E. Parish Sacramento Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
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Sean Maccloud wrote:
Chainsaw wrote: Who knows what that even means.
Uh, most of us know what it means, dumbass. ....are you high or stupid?
-- MF See L.A. for class On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard. The fans gave him a long ovation. The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his 20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan. Clinton E. Parish Sacramento Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
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Fred wrote:
LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity. It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado. Yep Hey, what would happen if a married couple brought in a 3rd person for a menage? Would that be against this law?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
-Fred
-- MF See L.A. for class On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard. The fans gave him a long ovation. The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his 20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan. Clinton E. Parish Sacramento Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
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In article <4047BC24.D55611DB@y.com>, Sean Maccloud <s@y.com> wrote:
Greg wrote: Dead on. Exactly.
You forgot D. This bill will not become law.
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tjab wrote:
In article <4047BC24.D55611DB@y.com>, Sean Maccloud <s@y.com> wrote: You forgot D. This bill will not become law.
True. But it is part of a false dichotomy vibe. I don't even see how it is supposed to be relevent to he said she said rape trials.
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"Fred" <FreeLooseDirt@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<PZJ1c.55609$Ir2.36791@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com>...
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A 1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto How much you want to bet that the good Sen. Patterson is carrying on a Newt-like affair with one of his interns?
Where have we heard this one before? Right, everyone who has a problem with any criminal or immoral conduct routinely engaged by liberals, why the only explanation is they must secretly want to do it themselves. I criticize thieves, therefore I burglarize homes in my spare time. Liberals are notorious for projecting their evil ways onto others. (Cleopatra)
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s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote in message news:<6bd12cd6.0403040735.622f9559@posting.google.com>...
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2004/03/01/local.20040301-sbt-MICH-A1-_Kobe__bill_would.sto LANSING -- "You can't legislate morality." That's what the former director of the state appellate defenders office, F. Martin Tieber, said about a proposal by Sen. Bruce Patterson, R-Canton, to treat adultery as a form of criminal sexual assault. "The bill is about accepting responsibility and not taking advantage of others," Patterson said. His so-called 'Kobe Bryant bill' addresses the presumption that either party involved in a sexual encounter outside of a marriage did not consent to the sexual activity.
The meaning of this is unclear. What presumption is being referred to? And while I don't understand the source of the presumption, it would seem to me that this vague wording holds both parties guilty of rape, although it seems unlikely that the women will never be arrested or tried for it.
It's nicknamed for the married Los Angeles Laker's co-captain who is accused of raping a woman in Colorado. Julian Cook, a professor at Detroit College of Law at Michigan State University, says he sees both sides of the issue. "Proponents might argue that prosecution is necessary in order to assist prosecutors in their noble efforts to convict the perpetrator of such heinous crimes," Cook said.
Is adultary a heinous crime? Have both parties committed the same heinous crime?
"Opponents might contend that the proposed rule might encourage the prosecution of otherwise innocent individuals."
If the charge is rape, it seems a necessary conclusion.
Depending on the level of violation, criminal sexual conduct carries a penalty of up to life in prison.
The meaning of this is unclear, we are talking about consensual sex are we not? Only consensual sex between two people who are not supposed to be having sex together. Although if you talk to the feminists you will find that sex and marriage have absolutely nothing to do with each other and that married women can have sex with whomever they want. Rich
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