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Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
The Associated Press
March 4, 2004, 12:42 PM EST
Many families of the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack expressed anger
Thursday at President Bush's use of ground zero images in his new campaign ads,
accusing him of using the attack for political gain.
Until Bush cooperates with the federal commission that is investigating the
nation's preparedness before the attacks and its response "by testifying in
public under oath ... he should not be using 9-11 as political propaganda," said
Kristen Breitweiser, of Middletown Township, N.J., whose husband, Ronald
Breitweiser, 39, died in the World Trade Center.
"Three-thousand people were murdered on President Bush's watch," Breitweiser
said. "He has not cooperated with the investigation to find out why that
happened." The bipartisan panel reviewing the Sept. 11 attacks has requested
private meetings with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney about what the
administration knew before the attacks, potentially a sensitive subject in an
election year.
The first three campaign ads, unveiled at campaign headquarters in suburban
Washington on Wednesday, will run on broadcast channels in about 80 markets in
18 states, most of which are expected to be competitive, and nationwide on
select cable networks.
Two of the spots show pictures of the destruction at the World Trade Center and
include pictures of an American flag flying amid the debris. They also feature
images of firefighters working through the wreckage.
"I oppose anyone using it to promote their personal agenda," said Sally
Regenhard, whose firefighter son, Christian Regenhard, 28, died on Sept. 11,
2001. "While I certainly oppose the commercialization of ground zero, I have to
say he's not the only one to further his political goals or to make money off
it."
Bush's campaign on Thursday defended the commercials as appropriate for an
election about public policy and the war on terror, saying they are a tasteful
reminder of what the country has been through the last three years. The campaign
previously had said it would not use the attacks for political gain.
"September 11th was not just a distant tragedy. It's a defining event for the
future of our country," Karen Hughes, a Bush campaign adviser, told "The Early
Show" on CBS. "Obviously, all of us mourn and grieve for the victims of that
terrible day, but September 11 fundamentally changed our public policy in many
important ways, and I think it's vital that the next president recognize that."
Patricia Riley, of New Dorp, Staten Island, who lost her sister, Lorraine Riley,
37, in the terrorist attack, agreed with that view, saying Bush's use of Sept.
11 imagery in campaign spots was "appropriate."
"The country needs to be reminded of 9-11," she said. "The president has every
right to point to this leadership during that time. We're about to elect another
leader, and we have to make decisions on what a person is capable of doing to
protect our national security."
The ads do not mention Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry but
instead focus on improving Bush's image after lengthy attacks by Democrats in
recent months
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:24:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
you said you were going away spammer...
can't you even get that right...
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abelard wrote:
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:24:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
you said you were going away spammer...
can't you even get that right...
Your lack of reading comprehension doesn't surprise
anyone, moron.
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To put it in perspective, here are 9 ways Bush got favored treatment in the
service due to his political connections (he
was then son of a Congressman and grandson of a former Senator):
1) He got into the Guard by pulling strings, avoiding the year and a half
waiting list;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#got in
2) He took a 2-month vacation in Florida after just 8 weeks, (1 of 3 leaves), to
work on a political campaign;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#firstleave
3) Bush skipped Officer Candidate School and got a special commission as a 2nd
Lieutenant, without qualifications;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#2ndLt
4) He was assigned to a safe plane (being phased out of active service), the
F-102 ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#f102
5) During flight school, he was flown on a government jet to Washington for a
date with President Nixon's daughter Tricia ;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#date
6) Bush got an illegal transfer (later overruled) to a base with no work;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#moreleave
7) He simply didn't show up for a YEAR, AWOL with no penalty;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#AWOL
8) George W. skipped all his medical exams after they started drug tests, and
was removed from flight status;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#drugtest
9) He ended his service 10 months early to go to Harvard Business School;
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm#discharge
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:41:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
abelard wrote:
Your lack of reading comprehension doesn't surprise
anyone, moron.
the logical contradiction in your post is quite amazing!
first at least you show the insight to realise you are a moron....
why you don't then follow up by modestly refraining from
spamming is, i suppose, par for the course for a dedicated
registered moron....
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
The Associated Press
March 4, 2004, 12:42 PM EST
Many families of the victims of the Sept. 11 terrorist attack expressed
anger
Thursday at President Bush's use of ground zero images in his new campaign
ads,
accusing him of using the attack for political gain.
Until Bush cooperates with the federal commission that is investigating
the
nation's preparedness before the attacks and its response "by testifying
in
public under oath ... he should not be using 9-11 as political
propaganda," said
Kristen Breitweiser, of Middletown Township, N.J., whose husband, Ronald
Breitweiser, 39, died in the World Trade Center.
====================
Moron liberals think 9-11 was a part of history only for themselves to
discuss. Well many 9-11 victims families approve of Bush reminding
americans about our being attacked and their loved ones dying. Liberasl of
course do not want the image of Bush going after terrorists to be in voters
minds, as that makes voters realize we do not need terrorist coddling
Liberal panzies telling us what we can/ can't do in defending America.
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In article <LtidnW-n6cl449rd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>,
Juan Pablo Montoilet <McWillimas Sucks@F1A.org> wrote:
anger
ads,
the
in
propaganda," said
Moron liberals think 9-11 was a part of history only for themselves to
discuss. Well many 9-11 victims families approve of Bush reminding
americans about our being attacked and their loved ones dying.
If he wants to keep reminding people that this happened on his watch,
more power to him. But I'm not entirely clear as to why he'd want to.
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:41:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
the logical contradiction in your post is quite amazing!
first at least you show the insight to realise you are a moron....
He is just an over achieving flame artist...
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Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
Actually, according to the article, it outraged TWO people. And ONE other
person approved of the ads.
Hardly a "majority".......
"I took a Semtex today. I feel fantastic"-Liberal dim-bulb Bill Maher,
babbling about plastic explosives.
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 14:41:05 -0600, "The Department of Defense"
<thecats@ss.mil>
typed:
He is just an over achieving flame artist...
over-active...under-achieving...spammer...
no damned artistry at all....
regards...
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:41:35 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
the logical contradiction in your post is quite amazing!
first at least you show the insight to realise you are a moron....
why you don't then follow up by modestly refraining from
spamming is, i suppose, par for the course for a dedicated
registered moron....
Vox ? A "spammer" ?
A little reflection, Abelard ?
Date Abelard's posts Vox's posts
29/02 22 0
02/03 36 5
03/03 24 3
04/03 48 7
If Vox is a "spammer", what does that make you ?
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On 4 Mar 2004 15:02:46 -0500, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <LtidnW-n6cl449rd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>,
Juan Pablo Montoilet <McWillimas Sucks@F1A.org> wrote:
If he wants to keep reminding people that this happened on his watch,
more power to him. But I'm not entirely clear as to why he'd want to.
He probably wants people to compare his leadership with that which
they can expect from the Dems. It may work for him or backfire.
We'll see in November.
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Moron liberals think 9-11 was a part of history only for themselves to
discuss. Well many 9-11 victims families approve of Bush reminding
americans about our being attacked and their loved ones dying. Liberasl of
course do not want the image of Bush going after terrorists to be in
voters
minds, as that makes voters realize we do not need terrorist coddling
Liberal panzies telling us what we can/ can't do in defending America.
Well don't forget to remind the people too, of Bush on 911 sitting on his
backside for over 15 mins, doing nothing, after Card had told him America
was under attack. A great CinC, be glad it wasn't the Soviets who had
attacked then, because you wouldn't be in the NGs now.
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storing any part of my posts), without prior written permission from myself.
Making copies of any part of my posts for any purpose whatsoever is a
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:19:21 -0000, "Chris X" <Chris_X@postmaster.co.uk>
typed:
Date Abelard's posts Vox's posts
29/02 22 0
02/03 36 5
03/03 24 3
04/03 48 7
If Vox is a "spammer", what does that make you ?
do try to work sommat out for yourself....
however, i am again gratified by your diligent attention to my posts.
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:19:21 -0000, "Chris X" <Chris_X@postmaster.co.uk>
typed:
do try to work sommat out for yourself....
however, i am again gratified by your diligent attention to my posts.
LOL, wouldn't miss one for the world, old boy :)
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:32:53 -0000, "Chris X" <Chris_X@postmaster.co.uk>
typed:
LOL, wouldn't miss one for the world, old boy :)
you show surprising good taste....considering....
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
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good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
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<<< Moron liberals think 9-11 was a part of history only for
themselves to discuss. Well many 9-11 victims families approve of
Bush reminding americans about our being attacked and their loved ones
dying. >>>
Thankfully, moron Bush apologists seem incapable of perceiving the
increasingly widespread disgust of more and more U.S. voters and
probable voters at Bush's incompetetence - he even screwed up his coup
in Haiti, a country with a population less than Brooklyn, N.Y. (even
after one counts the number of Haitians in Brooklyn) - his lies, his
fronting for greed, and, in this instance, cynical effort to exploit
what happened on 9/11/01 - during *his* watch - to his personal
political advantage ..... "Thankfully" because the more they and Bush
keep it up the greater the margins of the Dem.'s victory in Nov. '04
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Cheap political gain is what the lying communist Dems are up to, by trying to
make an issue of this!
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- Master No Wei
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Cheap political gain is what the lying communist Dems are up to, by trying
to
make an issue of this!
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Are we talking about the same person? The same one who now refuses to give
sworn public testimony on this event, and looks increasingly guilty on
deliberately letting the attacks occur in order to have an excuse to invade
Iraq? That guy? The one that the victims' families hate? (I wonder why)
Talk about "political gain"!!!!!
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 16:32:30 -0800, "z" <zee@hotmail.com> wrote:
looks increasingly guilty on
deliberately letting the attacks occur in order to have an excuse to invade
Iraq?
Prove it you libelous sack-o-crap!
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On 4 Mar 2004 17:07:48 -0700, Master No Wei <Master@no-wei.com> wrote:
Cheap political gain is what the lying communist Dems are up to, by trying to
make an issue of this!
....same as it ever was...
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voters
Well don't forget to remind the people too, of Bush on 911 sitting on his
backside for over 15 mins, doing nothing, after Card had told him America
was under attack. A great CinC, be glad it wasn't the Soviets who had
attacked then, because you wouldn't be in the NGs now.
I think the ads are in incredibly bad taste, but your assertion here is
friggin ridiculous. 15 minutes probably meant quite a bit to those kids and
regrettably very little to the situation.
Jeremy
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On 4 Mar 2004 17:07:48 -0700, Master No Wei <Master@no-wei.com>
typed:
Cheap political gain is what the lying communist Dems are up to, by trying to
make an issue of this!
so....they are both at it mister no way....
where does that get you
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all that is necessary for [] walk quietly and carry
the triumph of evil is that [] a big stick.
good people do nothing [] trust actions not words
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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 22:05:19 GMT, "Fed Up"
<returntosender@MtEverest.peak> wrote:
Well don't forget to remind the people too, of Bush on 911 sitting on his
backside for over 15 mins, doing nothing, after Card had told him America
was under attack.
You poor simple bastard.
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abelard <abelard@abelard.org> wrote in message news:<rute40tc92seuiqr99rbkapecvbc3i0c8l@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:24:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
typed:
you said you were going away spammer...
can't you even get that right...
That's your *response*? He's calling your idiot Prez a grubby
@$#*ed-up, cowardly grave-robber. (which he is.. but still.....)
DUH
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"The Department of Defense" <thecats@ss.mil> wrote in message news:<40479536$0$4878$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com>...
He is just an over achieving flame artist...
MEANWHILE... are any of u patriotic IQ50 going to refute him??
steve -- who can't understand why the civilised world pities Merricans
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Cheap political gain is what the lying communist Dems are up to, by trying
to
make an issue of this!
'lying communist Dems'
Fucking hell, you guys amaze me !
Even a @$#*ing amoeba has more brain cells !
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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On 5 Mar 2004 02:10:16 -0800, stevespears@hotmail.com (steve2000)
wrote:
That's your *response*?
FOAD you scumhole.
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On 5 Mar 2004 02:12:31 -0800, stevespears@hotmail.com (steve2000)
wrote:
steve -- who can't understand
Leave it there, truth in labeling.
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:56:02 -0000, "Jez"
<iced_spear@AwaySPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Fucking hell, you guys amaze me !
It's like that for you with almost everything after that lobotomy
isn't it moron?
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| > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:24:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
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| > >Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
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| > you said you were going away spammer...
| > can't you even get that right...
||| That's your *response*? He's calling your idiot Prez a grubby
| @$#*ed-up, cowardly grave-robber. (which he is.. but still.....)
|| DUH
the Democrats quickly went in search for and likely PAID someone who was
supposedly mad about this for their own political gain.
Fact of life: 9/11 was a huge event during W's presidency that has
completely reshaped our country ever since.
Another Fact: Kerry went to and fought in Viet Nam then came back and talked
about "atrocities" he saw committed by our troops, but did not report while
he was there. Then, after getting back, went out with Jane Fonda to exploit
Viet Nam for his own political gain.
I wish y'all would have come up with a good, upstanding moderate Dem to run.
I would have voted for them! The problem is: Kerry is not fit to lead so I
am forced to go for 4 more years.
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On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:16:13 -0700, "Kingfish."
<spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote:
| > On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 11:24:16 -0700, "=> Vox Populi " <vox@popu.li>
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| > typed:
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| > >Bush ads outrage 9/11 families
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| > you said you were going away spammer...
| > can't you even get that right...
||| That's your *response*? He's calling your idiot Prez a grubby
| @$#*ed-up, cowardly grave-robber. (which he is.. but still.....)
|| DUH
the Democrats quickly went in search for and likely PAID someone who was
supposedly mad about this for their own political gain.
Same as they always do.
Fact of life: 9/11 was a huge event during W's presidency that has
completely reshaped our country ever since.
And the President responded with great skill, courage, and dignity.
Another Fact: Kerry went to and fought in Viet Nam then came back and talked
about "atrocities" he saw committed by our troops, but did not report while
he was there. Then, after getting back, went out with Jane Fonda to exploit
Viet Nam for his own political gain.
And threw other soldiers' medals away!
I wish y'all would have come up with a good, upstanding moderate Dem to run.
I would have voted for them! The problem is: Kerry is not fit to lead so I
am forced to go for 4 more years.
Kerry's not fit to be dog catcher.
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"Jeremy Harmon" <myfirstname{dot}mylastname{at}comcast{dot}net> wrote in
message news:38udnTFsBPorQNrdRVn-sw@comcast.com...
I think the ads are in incredibly bad taste, but your assertion here is
friggin ridiculous. 15 minutes probably meant quite a bit to those kids
and
regrettably very little to the situation.
Don't be so stupid. He's the CinC, he should have excused himself and
consulted with his staff as what to do. He could have returned to the kids
later. You don't think Kerry would have remained sitting, do you?
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On 4 Mar 2004 17:07:48 -0700, Master No Wei <Master@no-wei.com> wrote:
...same as it ever was...
JudicialWatch says that the Bush Administration is worse than the Clinton
one was. They are 2 sides of a bad penny.
""The Bush administration has an established reputation for secrecy and
obfuscation when it comes to answering straight-forward questions that are
clearly in the interest of the American people. Unfortunately, the Bush
administration is incredibly even less transparent and accountable than the
criminal enterprise the Clintons ran out of The White House during their
regime. There's a disturbing trend of denying the American public access to
information that keeps politicians accountable. We will not stand for it,"
stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman." This from
a conservative Republican.
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:39:09 GMT, "Fed Up"
<returntosender@MtEverest.peak> wrote:
He's the CinC, he should have excused himself and
consulted with his staff as what to do.
Who the @$#* are you, Miss Manners?
He could have returned to the kids
later.
Moron, he had people responding immediately.
Do you think a Fire Chief rushes immediately to every warehouse fire?
Chain of command you moron.
You don't think Kerry would have remained sitting, do you?
No, he would have tossed someone's medals out the window!
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On Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:39:10 GMT, "Fed Up"
<returntosender@MtEverest.peak> wrote:
JudicialWatch says that the Bush Administration is worse than the Clinton
one was.
Who the @$#* cares what leftist whores say.
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