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http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too. As a rape survivor, I'm
horrified at Mackey's amoral antics, and reminded again why I didn't
call the police. I didn't end up with enough bruises - and besides
that, I knew the bastard. I had let him into my apartment when he was
banging on the door at 1 a.m. I didn't want to wake the neighbors.
Wrong choice. Especially if you want to report a sexual assault. But
that was more than a quarter of a century ago. Since then most states
- including Colorado, where the Bryant case is being played out - have
enacted rape-shield laws.
Mackey needs to be sanctioned for her unethical behavior. We wouldn't
tolerate a black witness being discredited like this because of his
color, yet we tolerate this kind of conduct against a woman when she
reports she's been sexually assaulted.
From the tactics going on right now, and the media's complicity with
them, it's clear that we still devalue a woman's word, and the Bill of
Rights does not apply to a woman once she cries rape.
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s_knight8 wrote:
From the tactics going on right now, and the media's complicity with
them, it's clear that we still devalue a woman's word,
Oh spare me... we're going to turn this into a women's rights parade?
Women everywhere would be proud to rally behind a lying skank... what a
great posterchild.
and the Bill of
Rights does not apply to a woman once she cries rape.
--
MF
See L.A. for class
On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts
of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard.
The fans gave him a long ovation.
The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his
20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters
worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan.
Clinton E. Parish
Sacramento
Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
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On 6 Mar 2004 15:46:58 -0800, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too.
If they are used to protect victims.
In this case they are just an excuse for an inquisition.
As a rape survivor, I'm
horrified at Mackey's amoral antics, and reminded again why I didn't
call the police. I didn't end up with enough bruises - and besides
that, I knew the bastard. I had let him into my apartment when he was
banging on the door at 1 a.m. I didn't want to wake the neighbors.
Wrong choice. Especially if you want to report a sexual assault. But
that was more than a quarter of a century ago. Since then most states
- including Colorado, where the Bryant case is being played out - have
enacted rape-shield laws.
Mackey needs to be sanctioned for her unethical behavior. We wouldn't
tolerate a black witness being discredited like this because of his
color, yet we tolerate this kind of conduct against a woman when she
reports she's been sexually assaulted.
So we should believe ANYONE who says that she got raped and immediately
hang the accused, just because you say so?
Not to mention that the accuser is not as innocent as she claims to be.
The defense have every right to tear her allegation apart and look into
every detail.
If you don't like it, move out to a third world country.
There is nothing unethical in this.
And I sure hope that you get your sorry words shoved somewhere if Kobe
was found not guilty or exonerated.
From the tactics going on right now, and the media's complicity with
them, it's clear that we still devalue a woman's word, and the Bill of
Rights does not apply to a woman once she cries rape.
So the Bill of rights do not apply to the accused?
He doesn't have any rights now?
What happed to the right to confront his accuser?
It seems that some people do not use what God gave us all, brains.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too. As a rape survivor, I'm
horrified at Mackey's amoral antics, and reminded again why I didn't
call the police. I didn't end up with enough bruises - and besides
that, I knew the bastard. I had let him into my apartment when he was
banging on the door at 1 a.m. I didn't want to wake the neighbors.
Don't you think the fact that the woman screwed the entire male population
of Colorado MIGHT be just a little germane to whether or not she was raped
by Mr. Bryant? Do YOU or the author of the article PERSONALLY KNOW FOR
CERTAIN that it was Bryant and NOT the other men she had sex with before and
after her alleged rape who caused the injuries??
There are rapes, and there are NOT rapes.
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On 6 Mar 2004 15:46:58 -0800, s_knight8@hotmail.com (s_knight8) wrote:
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?
coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too.
If they are used to protect victims.
In this case they are just an excuse for an inquisition.
So we should believe ANYONE who says that she got raped and immediately
hang the accused, just because you say so?
Of course! Don't you know that in the entire history of the universe not ONE
woman has EVER lied about anything!
Not even a TEENY fib!
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Thats all I needed to see to understand she couldn't possibly have an
objective view of this situation.
"s_knight8" <s_knight8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
As a rape survivor
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In article <c7b27f76d7d9632c78eac093eedd671a@news.teranews.com>,
no@spam.email wrote:
From the tactics going on right now, and the media's complicity with
them, it's clear that we still devalue a woman's word, and the Bill of
Rights does not apply to a woman once she cries rape.
So the Bill of rights do not apply to the accused?
He doesn't have any rights now?
What happed to the right to confront his accuser?
It seems that some people do not use what God gave us all, brains.
You sure taught Lorraine Dusky, the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful
Truth About Women and Justice in America." a lesson.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too. As a rape survivor, I'm
horrified at Mackey's amoral antics, and reminded again why I didn't
call the police. I didn't end up with enough bruises - and besides
that, I knew the bastard. I had let him into my apartment when he was
banging on the door at 1 a.m. I didn't want to wake the neighbors.
Don't you think the fact that the woman screwed the entire male population
of Colorado MIGHT be just a little germane to whether or not she was raped
by Mr. Bryant? Do YOU or the author of the article PERSONALLY KNOW FOR
CERTAIN that it was Bryant and NOT the other men she had sex with before
and
after her alleged rape who caused the injuries??
that's the kind of small thinking that brought the rape shield laws into
existance.
still, kobe has a right to defend himself and that means presenting the
reasonable doubt as to the source of the vaginal trauma. since any
reasonable woman would change her underclothes once in a while, the jurors
could conclude that another reasonably possible source of that trauma is
exists.
There are rapes, and there are NOT rapes.
dave
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In article <5IA2c.13421$BA.2712@fed1read03>, "Dave McNulla"
<dave@chisel&stonetables.com> wrote:
still, kobe has a right to defend himself and that means presenting the
reasonable doubt as to the source of the vaginal trauma. since any
reasonable woman would change her underclothes once in a while, the jurors
could conclude that another reasonably possible source of that trauma is
exists.
A reasonable woman wouldn't try to kill herself twice in a 3 month span. A
reasonable woman wouldn't orchestrate her way into Kobe's room for a @$#*
and then cry rape to get her ex's sympathy. A reasonable woman would watch
how she acts in public after bringing such a charge. A reasonable woman
wouldn't lie about who how many she had sex knowing that DNA tests would be
done. And so on.
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krp@verizon.net wrote:
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion
ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too. As a rape survivor, I'm
horrified at Mackey's amoral antics, and reminded again why I didn't
call the police. I didn't end up with enough bruises - and besides
that, I knew the bastard. I had let him into my apartment when he was
banging on the door at 1 a.m. I didn't want to wake the neighbors.
Don't you think the fact that the woman screwed the entire male population
of Colorado MIGHT be just a little germane to whether or not she was raped
by Mr. Bryant? Do YOU or the author of the article PERSONALLY KNOW FOR
CERTAIN that it was Bryant and NOT the other men she had sex with before
and after her alleged rape who caused the injuries??
There are rapes, and there are NOT rapes.
it was two other guy idiot, at that age, no uncommon. Your bigotry is dully
noted.
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 05:55:21 GMT, "Chris Smith"
<chriso1976@earthlink.net> wrote:
In article <c7b27f76d7d9632c78eac093eedd671a@news.teranews.com>,
no@spam.email wrote:
From the tactics going on right now, and the media's complicity with
them, it's clear that we still devalue a woman's word, and the Bill of
Rights does not apply to a woman once she cries rape.
You sure taught Lorraine Dusky, the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful
Truth About Women and Justice in America." a lesson.
I don't give a #@($ who she is and what she authored.
I call things as I see them, got a problem with that?
If you do, then you can go and @$#* yourself for all I care.
It is lamers like you who believe that crap that she is saying, the
accused should not confront his accuser, we should punish the defense
for doing their job, and we should believe every woman screaming rape
and immediately hang the accused.
You are one dumb @$#* that aimlessly trolls and jumps into threads just
fort the sake of flaming.
You retarded piece of #@($.
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Don't you think the fact that the woman screwed the entire male
population
of Colorado MIGHT be just a little germane to whether or not she was
raped
by Mr. Bryant? Do YOU or the author of the article PERSONALLY KNOW FOR
CERTAIN that it was Bryant and NOT the other men she had sex with before
and
after her alleged rape who caused the injuries??
that's the kind of small thinking that brought the rape shield laws into
existance.
Oh yes, pardon me for thinking that ANYTHING the woman could do, even
22,456 previous FALSE rape claims MIGHT be considered pertinent as to
whether she's telling the truth the 22,457th time! How dumb am I?
still, kobe has a right to defend himself and that means presenting the
reasonable doubt as to the source of the vaginal trauma. since any
reasonable woman would change her underclothes once in a while, the jurors
could conclude that another reasonably possible source of that trauma is
exists.
That he CANNOT explore her sexual behavior between the immediate time
BEFORE the alleged incident, and immediately afterward ,WHEN we accept AS
UNCONTROVERTED FACT, that he underwear was loaded with semen NONE of which
matched Kobe Bryant, by the way, is it wrong to ask how that came to be?
Does Not a half gallon of sperm from TWO other men and NONE from Bryant not
open the door just a little bit to inquire as to how that might be?????
I am sorry but there is a point at which we should use just a LITTLE
logic and if there is a good reason to examine the alleged victim's recent
history, like loads of goo running out of her underwear that DOES NOT match
Bryant's DNA, that we can bend the rape shield law just a bit????
Sorry for having such a small mind that I still believe in innocence
until guilt is proven. If we are looking for the truth, then let's find it.
If Bryant raped her, he belongs in prison. But he should have at least a
chance to prove he didn't.
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In article <5IA2c.13421$BA.2712@fed1read03>, "Dave McNulla"
<dave@chisel&stonetables.com> wrote:
A reasonable woman wouldn't try to kill herself twice in a 3 month span.
A
reasonable woman wouldn't orchestrate her way into Kobe's room for a @$#*
and then cry rape to get her ex's sympathy. A reasonable woman would
watch
how she acts in public after bringing such a charge. A reasonable woman
wouldn't lie about who how many she had sex knowing that DNA tests would
be
done. And so on.
Also a "REASONABLE WOMEN" wouldn't be walking around town with underwear
with sperm samples from half the male population of Colorado soaking them
and submitting them for rape screening. AT least not a "REASONABLY BRIGHT"
woman!
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In article <498eff4bf8b9668d6f1daf2474e8b934@news.teranews.com>,
no@spam.email wrote:
So the Bill of rights do not apply to the accused?
He doesn't have any rights now?
What happed to the right to confront his accuser?
It seems that some people do not use what God gave us all, brains.
You sure taught Lorraine Dusky, the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful
Truth About Women and Justice in America." a lesson.
I don't give a #@($ who she is and what she authored.
I call things as I see them, got a problem with that?
If you do, then you can go and @$#* yourself for all I care.
It is lamers like you who believe that crap that she is saying, the
accused should not confront his accuser, we should punish the defense
for doing their job, and we should believe every woman screaming rape
and immediately hang the accused.
You are one dumb @$#* that aimlessly trolls and jumps into threads just
fort the sake of flaming.
You retarded piece of #@($.
You don't call things like you see them. I disagree with that. I've seen
your work here. I think you really believe what Lorraine is telling you.
You're a sheep just like the rest. It is you who thinks that the accused
should not confront her (not his) accuser.
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Don't you think the fact that the woman screwed the entire male
population
of Colorado MIGHT be just a little germane to whether or not she was
raped
by Mr. Bryant? Do YOU or the author of the article PERSONALLY KNOW
FOR
CERTAIN that it was Bryant and NOT the other men she had sex with
before
and
after her alleged rape who caused the injuries??
existance.
Oh yes, pardon me for thinking that ANYTHING the woman could do, even
22,456 previous FALSE rape claims MIGHT be considered pertinent as to
whether she's telling the truth the 22,457th time! How dumb am I?
the number of partners is irrelevant. sluts get raped too. some guys think
they deserve it for denying them.
still, kobe has a right to defend himself and that means presenting the
reasonable doubt as to the source of the vaginal trauma. since any
reasonable woman would change her underclothes once in a while, the
jurors
could conclude that another reasonably possible source of that trauma is
exists.
That he CANNOT explore her sexual behavior between the immediate time
BEFORE the alleged incident, and immediately afterward ,WHEN we accept AS
UNCONTROVERTED FACT, that he underwear was loaded with semen NONE of which
matched Kobe Bryant, by the way, is it wrong to ask how that came to be?
Does Not a half gallon of sperm from TWO other men and NONE from Bryant
not
open the door just a little bit to inquire as to how that might be?????
I am sorry but there is a point at which we should use just a LITTLE
logic and if there is a good reason to examine the alleged victim's recent
history, like loads of goo running out of her underwear that DOES NOT
match
Bryant's DNA, that we can bend the rape shield law just a bit????
Sorry for having such a small mind that I still believe in innocence
until guilt is proven. If we are looking for the truth, then let's find
it.
If Bryant raped her, he belongs in prison. But he should have at least a
chance to prove he didn't.
your search for fairness is commendable, but you missed your goal when you
thought that easy=easy all the time for everyone.
just the same, i think any semen found in her underwear during a rape exam
must be explained in court so the jury can make figure out if she got the
vaginal trauma from another partner.
dave
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krp@verizon.net wrote:
A
watch
be
Also a "REASONABLE WOMEN" wouldn't be walking around town with underwear
with sperm samples from half the male population of Colorado soaking them
and submitting them for rape screening. AT least not a "REASONABLY BRIGHT"
woman!
She was with 2 guys, my little exaggerator.
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:14:28 GMT, "Chris Smith"
<chriso1976@earthlink.net> wrote:
In article <498eff4bf8b9668d6f1daf2474e8b934@news.teranews.com>,
no@spam.email wrote:
So the Bill of rights do not apply to the accused?
He doesn't have any rights now?
What happed to the right to confront his accuser?
It seems that some people do not use what God gave us all, brains.
You sure taught Lorraine Dusky, the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful
Truth About Women and Justice in America." a lesson.
You don't call things like you see them.
You don't know your head from your ass, nobody gives a rat's ass of what
you think.
I disagree with that.
Nobody gives a #@($.
I've seen your work here.
You couldn't see if your stupid life depended on it, doofus.
I think you really believe what Lorraine is telling you.
Nobody gives a rat's ass of what YOU think.
I am a sheep just like the rest. It is me who thinks that the accused
should not confront her (not his) accuser.
Correct it for you.
Now that is the truth.
Fuck off, go back to wanking wearing your sister's underwear.
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In article <404CE658.8010704@serverart.org>,
Michael Fletcher <mfletcher@serverart.org> wrote:
Chris Smith wrote:
haha...I've had some fun with him, but I think it's plonk-time.
Mikey's euphemism for run-away time.
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tjab wrote:
In article <404CE658.8010704@serverart.org>,
Michael Fletcher <mfletcher@serverart.org> wrote:
Mikey's euphemism for run-away time.
Ooh, Tjab showin' some spunk. Might wanna do some reading before you hop
on OldSpam's lap, dude.
--
MF
See L.A. for class
On March 21 in Los Angeles, former Celtics great (who broke the hearts
of many Lakers fans) Bill Russell had his picture on the scoreboard.
The fans gave him a long ovation.
The previous night, when it was announced that Shaq O'Neal scored his
20,000th point, the fans in Sacramento booed. Then, to make matters
worse, a the game ball was defaced, presumably by a Sacramento fan.
Clinton E. Parish
Sacramento
Rest in Peace, Francis Dayle "Chick" Hearn : 1916 - 2002
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In article <c2ittv$5ob@rac1.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
Careful, dude. Nospam will start citing unrelated threads at you and
complaining about how no one else in usenet can read.
He just did, a couple posts after this one.
haha...I've had some fun with him, but I think it's plonk-time.
Mikey's euphemism for run-away time.
That's usually a Mikey-hater's euphemism for "I'm one of Mikey's former
#@&@
es."
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpdus053695538mar05,0,2391448.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines
BY LORRAINE DUSKY
Lorraine Dusky is the author of "Still Unequal: The Shameful Truth
About Women and Justice in America."
March 5, 2004
What ever happened to those rape- shield laws that were supposed to
protect women, you ask. I'm asking, too. As a rape survivor
Survivor? I didn't realize that a significant percentage of rapes ended in
murder, but I guess they do?
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
David Letterman, on reports of friction between Derek Jeter and Alex
Rodriguez: "But listen to this. The San Francisco Giants have a very
different problem. I was stunned when I heard this. Their shortstop
and their third baseman got married."
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