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crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or killed.
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crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or
killed.
I can.
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abdul rahim wrote:
crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked
or killed.
Not true. Violent crime, per capita, has been steadily decreasing since
the 1970's. Crime has been worse.
--
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always
interesting to me, because as we know, there are known
knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know
there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there
are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld,
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I can honestly say I never worry about it and I feel truly safe 99% of the
time.
crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or
killed.
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In article <rHa3c.4404$293.753@twister.nyroc.rr.com>, Jon C
<news@jonnythan.com> wrote:
I can honestly say I never worry about it and I feel truly safe 99% of the
time.
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On Mon 08 Mar 2004 08:36:53p, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim)
wrote in news:c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com:
crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or
killed.
Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking the law
all around the country.
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On 8 Mar 2004 17:36:53 -0800, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul
rahim) wrote:
crime has never been worse in the USA.
Statistics suggest that you're absurdly wrong; we're the safest we've
been since the mid-1960s as far as crime is concerned.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or killed.
I can. What's your point?
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 04:22:46 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Mon 08 Mar 2004 08:36:53p, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim)
wrote in news:c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com:
Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking the law
all around the country.
And you feel in danger of being "suddenly attacked or killed" because
gay people want to get married to each other? Do tell. Please
elaborate on how one is contingent on the other.
..
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:55:01a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:vpmq40l4e0l5krbo2h4h4pmhbvlcbnu5oc@4ax.com:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 04:22:46 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
And you feel in danger of being "suddenly attacked or killed" because
gay people want to get married to each other? Do tell. Please
elaborate on how one is contingent on the other.
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they "attack
or kill" others?
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:50:05 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:55:01a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:vpmq40l4e0l5krbo2h4h4pmhbvlcbnu5oc@4ax.com:
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they "attack
or kill" others?
So you believe in laws prohibiting conduct which harms no one?
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On 8 Mar 2004 17:36:53 -0800, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul
rahim) in news message
<c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com> wrote:
crime has never been worse in the USA.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm
Notice the charts near the top of the page under Summary Findings.
Violent crime rates declined since 1994, reaching the lowest level
ever recorded. The property crime rate continued a more than 20-year
decline.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or killed.
I feel safe. What is your point?
Liz #658 BAAWA
There are no atheists in spiderholes. -- <-,->
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:53:45 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On 8 Mar 2004 17:36:53 -0800, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul
rahim) in news message
<c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com> wrote:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict.htm
Notice the charts near the top of the page under Summary Findings.
Violent crime rates declined since 1994, reaching the lowest level
ever recorded. The property crime rate continued a more than 20-year
decline.
I feel safe.
Me too!
There's been a lot of studies about the real risks of crime vs
perception of the risk of crime over here. Senior citizens for example
feel at a high risk of mugging but the most likely person to be mugged
is a man between 18 and 24 between 6 and 8pm.
Personally, I think the media has a lot to do with this, not so much
for sensationalism, but simply because if you live in London and
someone gets mugged in Glasgow, you hear about it more or less
instantly, which IMO leads to an increase in perception of risk that
isn't necessarily justified for your particular circumstances and so
on.
What is your point?
That people aren't too bright?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 02:43:07a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:i7tq40dpuemaos66pel1t7tpk9mfjlljss@4ax.com:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 05:50:05 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
So you believe in laws prohibiting conduct which harms no one?
Sorry, you didn't answer the question. Answer the question or I'll be
forced to assume you are incapable of rational thought.
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:53:38 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 02:43:07a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:i7tq40dpuemaos66pel1t7tpk9mfjlljss@4ax.com:
Sorry, you didn't answer the question. Answer the question or I'll be
forced to assume you are incapable of rational thought.
Alow me.
Original post:
"nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked
or killed."
You said:
"Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking
the law all around the country."
Clear enough?
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garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim) wrote in message news:<c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com>...
crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or killed.
i feel quite safe from being suddenly attacked or being killed.
maybe you should move into the country and eat a lot of peaches.
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<b6eb0382b28868be8e4baf08cc0f7ff2@news.teranews.com>...
On Mon 08 Mar 2004 08:36:53p, garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim)
wrote in news:c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com:
Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking the law
all around the country.
wow, that was wonderfully well reasoned and, if nothing else, entirely
convincing. as has been pointed out elsewhere, crime has been on the
decline in this country, deeeeek.
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:53:38 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 02:43:07a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:i7tq40dpuemaos66pel1t7tpk9mfjlljss@4ax.com:
Sorry, you didn't answer the question. Answer the question or I'll be
forced to assume you are incapable of rational thought.
I've already concluded that about you.
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 07:59:00a, W. Syme
<winston_syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:1d07e635be6cc39b9804f2e5228f7a76@news.teranews.com:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:53:38 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
Alow me.
Original post:
"nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked
or killed."
You said:
"Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking
the law all around the country."
Clear enough?
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they
"attack or kill" others?
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Fester wrote:
killed.
I can.
Me, too. Either this person truly lives in an extremely bad
neighborhood and assumes that everywhere else is identical or s/he has a
bad case of paranoia. Actually, total reported crime stats are down
1.1% between 2001 and 2002 according to the FBI's website. Still too
soon to see how 2003 went.
BK
AA#1992
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<76e8e2a4529e5a708be5ba1df2340232@news.teranews.com>...
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:55:01a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:vpmq40l4e0l5krbo2h4h4pmhbvlcbnu5oc@4ax.com:
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they "attack
or kill" others?
So, who's the victim if two men or two women marry each other?
Specifically, how are *you* harmed?
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim) wrote in message news:<c7c4f07f.0403081736.213aa6bf@posting.google.com>...
crime has never been worse in the USA.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked or killed.
Yup - and the biggest criminals are the psychopaths on the highways.
The chance of being killed or maimed by someone breaking into your
house is ninuscule compared to the chance of some speeder or drunk
driver or RLR or idiot driver yakking on a cell phone doing it.
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 11:23:17a, alhob@earthlink.net (Alan Hobson) wrote in
news:d1d6cbe3.0403090823.42e7eda1@posting.google.com:
So, who's the victim if two men or two women marry each other?
Specifically, how are *you* harmed?
Homosexuals are a danger to public health.
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Snubis wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 07:59:00a, W. Syme
<winston_syme.superstitions@fastmail.fm> wrote in
news:1d07e635be6cc39b9804f2e5228f7a76@news.teranews.com:
You said:
"Crime has definately gone up ever since the faggots started breaking
the law all around the country."
Clear enough?
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they
"attack or kill" others?
Non sequitur -- but _I_ believe that criminals should
be prosecuted only if they harm or threaten to harm
others.
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Snubis wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 11:23:17a, alhob@earthlink.net (Alan Hobson) wrote in
news:d1d6cbe3.0403090823.42e7eda1@posting.google.com:
So, who's the victim if two men or two women marry each other?
Specifically, how are *you* harmed?
Homosexuals are a danger to public health.
Cite?
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 16:18:53 GMT, Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 11:23:17a, alhob@earthlink.net (Alan Hobson) wrote in
news:d1d6cbe3.0403090823.42e7eda1@posting.google.com:
Homosexuals are a danger to public health.
I guess you'd rather have one marry your daughter? After all, gays
have the perfect right to marry a woman. It's not illegal. Or
perhaps the next step on your agenda is genoicide. Break out the gas
chambers and ovens, boys, let's show them the *real* fundamentalist
"Christian" agenda. A theocratic America with Pat Robertson as God
Emperor!
--
Poster Boy
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garth.1.rahim@spamgourmet.com (abdul rahim) writes:
crime has never been worse in the USA.
The crime rate is now the lowest it's been in thirty years.
Violent crime peaked in 1989, at the height of the "trickle down"
years. Crimes against property were at their highest in 1972 and have
been coming down ever since, although there was a momentary rise last
year; probably due to the poor economy.
nobody can say that he truly feels safe from being suddenly attacked
or killed.
Sure we can. "Being suddenly attacked or killed" is the last
thing on my mind when I walk around my neighborhood. Most Americans
live in places where crime is light, almost irrelevant.
Elf
--
Elf M. Sternberg, Proud to be an Extinctionist
http://www.drizzle.com/~elf/
Nisi mecum concubueris, phobistae vicerint.
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B. Kildow wrote:
Fester wrote:
Me, too. Either this person truly lives in an extremely bad
neighborhood and assumes that everywhere else is identical or s/he
has a bad case of paranoia. Actually, total reported crime stats are
down
1.1% between 2001 and 2002 according to the FBI's website. Still too
soon to see how 2003 went.
BK
AA#1992
I feel quite safe everywhere in my area except on the rare occasion I have
to go downtown (Detroit). Admittedly though, I've never had anything
untoward happen to me while downtown. I've never had occasion to go to any
of the "rough areas" as my father calls them. My great grandmother lived on
Bagley Ave., years and years ago. That house is still there, and it's in an
area that is now considered rough.
--
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always
interesting to me, because as we know, there are known
knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know
there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there
are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld,
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
Yup - and the biggest criminals are the psychopaths on the highways.
The chance of being killed or maimed by someone breaking into your
house is ninuscule compared to the chance of some speeder or drunk
driver or RLR or idiot driver yakking on a cell phone doing it.
Yeah, those cell phone idiots do scare me. I have a hands free, and even
at that, I almost never take a call while driving. I have an alpha pager
that I clip to my sun visor. Everyone knows that in case of an emergency,
that's the best way to get a hold of me. A lot safer too.
--
"Reports that say something hasn't happened are always
interesting to me, because as we know, there are known
knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know
there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there
are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld,
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Snubis <snubis@wp.pl> wrote in message news:<9cdd86761cb49c6698c754bffcaeb355@news.teranews.com>...
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 11:23:17a, alhob@earthlink.net (Alan Hobson) wrote in
news:d1d6cbe3.0403090823.42e7eda1@posting.google.com:
Homosexuals are a danger to public health.
In what way, specifically?
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 06:26:38p, alhob@earthlink.net (Alan Hobson) wrote in
news:d1d6cbe3.0403091526.30245132@posting.google.com:
In what way, specifically?
Well, there are numerous examples. Just look at AIDS. In the United
States, AIDS used to be an exclusively homosexual disease. It was even
called GRIDS (Gay-Related Immunodeficiency Syndrome). Now it has spread to
the general populace. Just one example of many.
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Snubis wrote:
Well, there are numerous examples. Just look at AIDS. In the United
States, AIDS used to be
.... called ...
an exclusively homosexual disease.
without evidence.
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crime has never been worse in the USA.
Actually, it was at an all-time high in the late 80s. Since 1992, crime has
gone down. Since 2001 it has risen, but not to its peak in the 80s.
It's interesting: crime rises during Republican administrations but falls
during Democratic ones. That's because crime arises from poverty, which
always increaes when a Republican is in the White House widening the gap
between rich and poor.
--
Peacenik
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 06:47:22p, "Arthur L. Rubin"
<ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in
news:404E578A.909B749D@sprintmail.com:
Snubis wrote:
... called ...
without evidence.
Sorry, pal. This stuff is common knowledge.
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Snubis wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 06:47:22p, "Arthur L. Rubin"
<ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in
news:404E578A.909B749D@sprintmail.com:
Sorry, pal. This stuff is common knowledge.
That may be true that it's "common knowledge",
but it's also false. It used to be
"common knowledge" that the Sun revolved around
the Earth.
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On Tue 09 Mar 2004 07:45:35p, "Arthur L. Rubin"
<ronnirubin@sprintmail.com> wrote in
news:404E652F.2A5AFE85@sprintmail.com:
Snubis wrote:
That may be true that it's "common knowledge",
but it's also false.
Denying the facts won't make them go away.
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according to the FBI's website. Still too
soon to see how 2003 went.
we have atleast gotten one dangerous criminal off the streets. This hoodlum
wont be telling us which way toilet paper should be hung for atleast 6months.
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On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 12:08:36 +0000, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> in news message
<kacr401kg09nue0v4cgoeq68nhvnjvrc32@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:53:45 GMT in alt.atheism, Liz (Liz
<ehuth1@donotspam.com>) said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
Me too!
There's been a lot of studies about the real risks of crime vs
perception of the risk of crime over here. Senior citizens for example
feel at a high risk of mugging but the most likely person to be mugged
is a man between 18 and 24 between 6 and 8pm.
I didn't know that. I found another lovely page with just those
statistics. I really like charts. :)
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/vage.htm
The 65+ age bracket had the lowest victimization rate. I'm not there
yet, however it gives me something to look forward to.
Personally, I think the media has a lot to do with this, not so much
for sensationalism, but simply because if you live in London and
someone gets mugged in Glasgow, you hear about it more or less
instantly, which IMO leads to an increase in perception of risk that
isn't necessarily justified for your particular circumstances and so
on.
Interestingly enough, only 13% of murders were committed by strangers.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_c.htm
That people aren't too bright?
That's a given. Albeit in this case, it seems that abdul mistook his
beliefs for fact. That's a common enough occurrence among theists.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Reality doesn't alter itself to conform to our beliefs. --
Gregory A. Greenman
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Snubis wrote:
On Tue 09 Mar 2004 12:55:01a, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote
in news:vpmq40l4e0l5krbo2h4h4pmhbvlcbnu5oc@4ax.com:
So you believe that criminals should only be prosecuted only if they "attack
or kill" others?
So in other words, people should be arrested before hand on the
assumption that they could possibly commit a crime in 2 years time.
Matt
--
"Creativity is more than just being different. Anybody
can plan weird; that's easy. What's hard is to be as
simple as Bach. Making the simple, awesomely simple,
that's creativity." - Charles Mingus
"Jazz is my adventure. I'm after new chords, new
ways of syncopating, new figures, new runs. How to
use notes differently. That's it. Just using notes
differently" - Thelonious Monk
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