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alannfam@yahoo.com
3/15/2004 5:23:00 AM


Our next door neighbors want to take a personal protection order out
against all the 18 year or older kids that are at parties with their
daughter or give her rides. They say they are contributing to the
delinquency of a minor.we live in oakland county, michigan. my son is
over 18, We live in a small town he and her have mutual friends, she
mainly hangs out with older kids, and she has been in trouble with the
law before,Causing her parents alot of grief. my son has not been in
trouble and he works and goes to college. he gives the kids in our
neighborhood rides as long as they give him gas money. we live out in
the country away from the town and the kids are always looking for
rides into town.
Can her parents get a PPO on my son.?? he has stopped giving her rides
after curfew, but occasionally gives her rides during the day. But
they now say they do not even want him to do that either.
By the way both her parents drink, the dad is definitely an alcoholic,
she and her sister have been coming over our house for years , some
times crying, and saying thier dad is drinking can they stay for a
while. The mother drinks, but they don't complain that much about her.
What can we say or do in court to make the judge not let them get a
PPO.
What is the law on it,if he or other 18 year olds are at a party and
she shows up can they get PPO's on all of these kids???
thank you
 
 
cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green)
3/15/2004 9:36:10 PM


alannfam@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<c0d9690f.0403150523.4b3d5f59@posting.google.com>...
Our next door neighbors want to take a personal protection order out
against all the 18 year or older kids that are at parties with their
daughter or give her rides. They say they are contributing to the
delinquency of a minor.we live in oakland county, michigan....
Can her parents get a PPO on my son.??...
What can we say or do in court to make the judge not let them get a
PPO.
What is the law on it,if he or other 18 year olds are at a party and
she shows up can they get PPO's on all of these kids???
thank you
There's a summary of Michigan PPOs from the Eaton County Prosecutor's
office at http://www.co.eaton.mi.us/ecpa/ppo.htm
It appears there are two kinds of PPO in Michigan, and the neighbors
would not be entitled to either:
* A Domestic Relations PPO: this requires that the parties have some
kind of current or former domestic relationship: as spouses or dating
partners, parents of their child, or live or lived together in the
same household.
* A Stalking PPO: this requires that there have been more than one
incident of stalking.
 
 
cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green)
3/15/2004 9:45:49 PM


alannfam@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<c0d9690f.0403150523.4b3d5f59@posting.google.com>...
Our next door neighbors want to take a personal protection order out
against all the 18 year or older kids that are at parties with their
daughter or give her rides. They say they are contributing to the
delinquency of a minor.we live in oakland county, michigan. my son is
over 18, We live in a small town he and her have mutual friends, she
mainly hangs out with older kids, and she has been in trouble with the
law before,Causing her parents alot of grief. my son has not been in
trouble and he works and goes to college. he gives the kids in our
neighborhood rides as long as they give him gas money. we live out in
the country away from the town and the kids are always looking for
rides into town.
Can her parents get a PPO on my son.?? he has stopped giving her rides
after curfew, but occasionally gives her rides during the day. But
they now say they do not even want him to do that either.
By the way both her parents drink, the dad is definitely an alcoholic,
she and her sister have been coming over our house for years , some
times crying, and saying thier dad is drinking can they stay for a
while. The mother drinks, but they don't complain that much about her.
What can we say or do in court to make the judge not let them get a
PPO.
What is the law on it,if he or other 18 year olds are at a party and
she shows up can they get PPO's on all of these kids???
thank you
Posted my last reply too soon. I meant to add:
Michigan also has a "peace bond", which is a sort of restraining order
applicable in situations somewhat broader than those allowing a PPO.
These still require a threat of personal violence, which I take it is
absent in this situation.
I don't think they can make a credible threat, but I'm not a lawyer --
and if they start coming around with court papers, you'll need one, if
only to shut them up.
--
Not a lawyer,
Chris Green
 
 
alannfam@yahoo.com
3/17/2004 5:40:12 AM


cj.green@worldnet.att.net (Christopher Green) wrote in message news:<c31fa7b1.0403152145.d5d92a@posting.google.com>...
alannfam@yahoo.com wrote in message news:<c0d9690f.0403150523.4b3d5f59@posting.google.com>...
Posted my last reply too soon. I meant to add:
Michigan also has a "peace bond", which is a sort of restraining order
applicable in situations somewhat broader than those allowing a PPO.
These still require a threat of personal violence, which I take it is
absent in this situation.
I don't think they can make a credible threat, but I'm not a lawyer --
and if they start coming around with court papers, you'll need one, if
only to shut them up.
Thank you, you have been very helpful.
 
 
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