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My wife's employer threatened all employees with termination if they were ever late. Then he set the clock back several times so that they appeared late as a practical joke. This wouldn't be so bad except one of the girls in the office just had her husband commit suicide (leaving her and a 2 year old). This girl is on some major antidepressents right now and going through a bad time (therefore, it's totally not funny). I think it needs to stop. Are there any court cases to back up that this constitutes harrasment? I'm going to write the chairman a letter and I'd like something to cite. Thanks. -- Bill Adcox Adcox Management, LLC adcoxmanagement@comcast.net
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 10:50:17 -0600, "Bill Adcox" <adcoxmanagement@comcast.net> wrote:
My wife's employer threatened all employees with termination if they were ever late. Then he set the clock back several times so that they appeared late as a practical joke. This wouldn't be so bad except one of the girls in the office just had her husband commit suicide (leaving her and a 2 year old). This girl is on some major antidepressents right now and going through a bad time (therefore, it's totally not funny). I think it needs to stop. Are there any court cases to back up that this constitutes harrasment? I'm going to write the chairman a letter and I'd like something to cite.
Generally, for harassment to be illegal, it must be based on some protected class of employee. For example, an employer harasses someone because she's a woman or because she's black or because she was born in Iran. Harassment like you describe, although stupid and obnoxious, is probably not illegal. ------------------------------ Bob Stock, California Attorney Nothing I've said should be relied on as legal advice. ------------------------------
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My wife's employer threatened all employees with termination if they were ever late. Then he set the clock back several times so that they appeared late as a practical joke. This wouldn't be so bad except one of the girls in the office just had her husband commit suicide (leaving her and a 2 year old). This girl is on
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major antidepressents right now and going through a bad time (therefore, it's totally not funny). I think it needs to stop. Are there any court cases to back up that this constitutes harrasment? I'm going to write the chairman a letter and I'd like something to cite.
A good check and balance against this type of conduct is that his unemployment premiums could go through the roof if he kept firing people. -- Everything you need to know about women. FREE! http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html The Seduction Library http://www.cybersheet.com/hotties.html Why Hotties Choose Losers
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 05:47:56 GMT, "Ray Gordon" <ray@cybersheet.com> in misc.legal, wrote the following:
some A good check and balance against this type of conduct is that his unemployment premiums could go through the roof if he kept firing people.
Not to mention his health insurance premiums go through the roof for all the stress he causes his other employees, who fear coming under the axe next. Unfortunately, as Mr. Stock indicated, merely being sadistic to one's employees is not discrimination in a legally protected sense. I gather there's no union involved: if so, complaints should be made through them for unconscionable management practices, which would violate most collective bargaining agreements. So, my comments assume an employment "at will" situation. If the employer does fire the woman whose husband died (or any employee affected by his little games), she/they should definitely look to filing an appeal with the unemployment compensation board of her state, wages and compensation board, employee relations agency, the better business bureau, etc. and make it quite clear the type of harassment which takes place by the employer. Once the employer gets a reputation within state/business agencies as sadistic to his employees, he usually also finds himself frozen out by these agencies, and sometimes by other outlets for new employees (like employment agencies, who will often research high turnover companies before sending new employees to them) The employer sounds like a control freak, and the only way to fight those effectively is to leave them under your own volition. That usually takes them back a notch, because their reputation usually precedes them and they have a hard time finding replacements. HTH. -- Katherine Griffis-Greenberg, J.D. DISCLAIMER: Not a practicing attorney, and no attorney-client relationship is created. This response is for discussion purposes only. It isn't meant to be legal advice. If you wish legal advice, seek out an attorney in your own state who is familar with your state's laws and applications thereof.
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their reputation usually precedes them and they have a hard time finding replacements.
When I was new in town and didn't know any better, I accepted a job with a place that I later found out almost always had to run an ad for several weeks to get any applicants at all, because of their reputation. We tell our friends and they tell their friends, and pretty soon, everyone knows it's a bad place to work. === Freelance Litigation Paralegal -- providing support services to attorneys ONLY (I do not work directly for the general public: please have your lawyer contact me) http://hometown.aol.com/sactoparalegal/
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