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I recently was nailed (radar) speeding on a Houston city street by a
DPS trooper sitting _under_ an Interstate (288) highway overpass.I was
additionally ticketed for Expired DL and No Insurance.
The tickets indicate I must appear in a Harris County JP Court rather
than the Houston courts.
It appears the fines are different..the County fines for the same
tickets are higher.
My question: Why the difference? It was a "city" street where I
commited these "traffic crimes".why not have to pay "city" fines??
..What is the difference between a JP Court Ticket and a Houston
Ticket??
Somehow it seems unfair to have to pay higher fines simply because I
was stopped on a city street by a DPS trooped rather then the Houston
Police.
Any Answers?
Thanks,
Ray
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webelder@hotmail.com wrote:
I recently was nailed (radar) speeding on a Houston city street by a
DPS trooper sitting _under_ an Interstate (288) highway overpass.I was
additionally ticketed for Expired DL and No Insurance.
The tickets indicate I must appear in a Harris County JP Court rather
than the Houston courts.
It appears the fines are different..the County fines for the same
tickets are higher.
My question: Why the difference? It was a "city" street where I
commited these "traffic crimes".why not have to pay "city" fines??
.What is the difference between a JP Court Ticket and a Houston
Ticket??
Somehow it seems unfair to have to pay higher fines simply because I
was stopped on a city street by a DPS trooped rather then the Houston
Police.
Any Answers?
Thanks,
Ray
Somehow it seems unfair that a few who feel that it is their "right" to
drive a car on the streets, with, or without a valid license.
You were the one who was negiligent in not getting it renewed.
I don't know why it would make any difference as to where the cop was
sitting unless he was out of his jurisdiction at that point.
It sounds to me like you're whining because you got caught for something you
do every day and probably several times a day.
If you observed the speed limit as a habit, you wouldn't have been cited,
and not be hauled in to court for no license and no insurance.
But noooo, you snub your nose at the law and say "I'll never get caught".
I've had one speeding ticket in my entire 53 years and I intend on keeping
it that way.
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webelder@hotmail.com wrote:
Somehow it seems unfair that a few who feel that it is their "right" to
drive a car on the streets, with, or without a valid license.
You were the one who was negiligent in not getting it renewed.
I don't know why it would make any difference as to where the cop was
sitting unless he was out of his jurisdiction at that point.
It sounds to me like you're whining because you got caught for something
you
do every day and probably several times a day.
PKB, pedo.
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/ag/
Wisconsin Department of Justice
P.O. Box 7857
Madison, WI 53707-7857
Phone # 608-266-1221
http://www.co.portage.wi.us/District%20Attorney/district_attorney.htm
Portage County, Wisconsin
District Attorney's Office
Department Head: Thomas B. Eagon
Address: 1516 Church St., Stevens Point, WI 54481
Phone: (715) 346-1300 Fax: (715) 346-1236
Hours: 7:30 A.M. - 4:30 P.M.
http://www.usacops.com/wi/p54467/
Plover Police Department
Chief of Police
Roger W Zebro
2420 Post Rd
Plover, Wisconsin 54467
(715)345-5255
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dci/tech/
"The High Technology and Support Services Unit coordinates the activities of
the Wisconsin Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. In 1998,
Wisconsin was awarded $300,000 in federal funds that Attorney General Doyle
used to implement an Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force.
Wisconsin's ICAC Task Force is made up of DCI special agents and City of
Milwaukee police detectives. The task force investigates the
computer-facilitated sexual exploitation of children on the Internet,
conducting both proactive investigations on the Internet, as well as
responding to requests for investigative assistance from local law
enforcement agencies in Wisconsin.
Since active investigations began in February 1999, the Wisconsin ICAC Task
Force has opened 168 cases and had 60 arrests. Forty-six of those arrests
were travelers -- people who traveled to or within Wisconsin to engage in
sexual activity with actual children or individuals whom they thought were
children. In the task force's first full year of operations, Wisconsin was
responsible for 30 percent of the child enticement arrests by Internet crime
task forces nationally. So far this year, Wisconsin special agents have been
arresting cyber predators approximately once every ten days."
If you observed the speed limit as a habit, you wouldn't have been cited,
and not be hauled in to court for no license and no insurance.
But noooo, you snub your nose at the law and say "I'll never get caught".
PKB, pedo.
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/ag/
Wisconsin Department of Justice
P.O. Box 7857
Madison, WI 53707-7857
Phone # 608-266-1221
http://www.co.portage.wi.us/District%20Attorney/district_attorney.htm
Portage County, Wisconsin
District Attorney's Office
Department Head: Thomas B. Eagon
Address: 1516 Church St., Stevens Point, WI 54481
Phone: (715) 346-1300 Fax: (715) 346-1236
Hours: 7:30 A.M. - 4:30 P.M.
http://www.usacops.com/wi/p54467/
Plover Police Department
Chief of Police
Roger W Zebro
2420 Post Rd
Plover, Wisconsin 54467
(715)345-5255
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dci/tech/
"The High Technology and Support Services Unit coordinates the activities of
the Wisconsin Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. In 1998,
Wisconsin was awarded $300,000 in federal funds that Attorney General Doyle
used to implement an Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) Task Force.
Wisconsin's ICAC Task Force is made up of DCI special agents and City of
Milwaukee police detectives. The task force investigates the
computer-facilitated sexual exploitation of children on the Internet,
conducting both proactive investigations on the Internet, as well as
responding to requests for investigative assistance from local law
enforcement agencies in Wisconsin.
Since active investigations began in February 1999, the Wisconsin ICAC Task
Force has opened 168 cases and had 60 arrests. Forty-six of those arrests
were travelers -- people who traveled to or within Wisconsin to engage in
sexual activity with actual children or individuals whom they thought were
children. In the task force's first full year of operations, Wisconsin was
responsible for 30 percent of the child enticement arrests by Internet crime
task forces nationally. So far this year, Wisconsin special agents have been
arresting cyber predators approximately once every ten days."
I've had one speeding ticket in my entire 53 years and I intend on keeping
it that way.
Bulli#@($.
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I recently was nailed (radar) speeding on a Houston city street by a
DPS trooper sitting _under_ an Interstate (288) highway overpass.I was
additionally ticketed for Expired DL and No Insurance.
The tickets indicate I must appear in a Harris County JP Court rather
than the Houston courts.
It appears the fines are different..the County fines for the same
tickets are higher.
My question: Why the difference? It was a "city" street where I
commited these "traffic crimes".why not have to pay "city" fines??
.What is the difference between a JP Court Ticket and a Houston
Ticket??
Somehow it seems unfair to have to pay higher fines simply because I
was stopped on a city street by a DPS trooped rather then the Houston
Police.
Any Answers?
Thanks,
Ray
I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television. Having said that, and
applying my knowledge of MO laws that MAY be similar to TX law, I can offer
a possible explanation.
DPS officers may be able to enforce state laws anywhere in the state, on any
road. In that case, they would not be "out of their jurisdiction." However,
on the same road, they may not be allowed to enforce municipal or local
ordinances. The fines set by the state will probably be seen only at the
county seat, and are applicable to the state laws the DPS officer cited. Had
you been stopped by a municipal/city officer, the fines would probably have
been set in the Houston City Courts.
As a municipal officer, I may write violations of our municipal code and
state statutes. Our Highway Patrol will enforce state statutes, but not
write for municipal ordinance violations.
Hope this helps, get an attorney, see is he/she can play "Let's Make A Deal"
with the court.
John
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It would appear you were unable to comprehend my post...I am not
complaining that I got caught..but the difference in fine amounts.
Anybody else on that stretch of road that had been stopped by a
HOUSTON cop would have to pay less than I will have to pay,having been
stopped by a STATE cop.
That is what is unfair.
Ray
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:50:55 -0600, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.000>
wrote:
webelder@hotmail.com wrote:
Somehow it seems unfair that a few who feel that it is their "right" to
drive a car on the streets, with, or without a valid license.
You were the one who was negiligent in not getting it renewed.
I don't know why it would make any difference as to where the cop was
sitting unless he was out of his jurisdiction at that point.
It sounds to me like you're whining because you got caught for something you
do every day and probably several times a day.
If you observed the speed limit as a habit, you wouldn't have been cited,
and not be hauled in to court for no license and no insurance.
But noooo, you snub your nose at the law and say "I'll never get caught".
I've had one speeding ticket in my entire 53 years and I intend on keeping
it that way.
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Sorry..my last reply was meant for Richards post..Not Alex..
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:54:20 GMT, webelder@hotmail.com wrote:
It would appear you were unable to comprehend my post...I am not complaining that I got caught..but the difference in fine amounts. Anybody else on that stretch of road that had been stopped by a HOUSTON cop would have to pay less than I will have to pay,having been stopped by a STATE cop. That is what is unfair. Ray On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 00:50:55 -0600, "Richard" <Anonymous@127.000> wrote: |
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John Morgan wrote:
I am not an attorney, nor do I play one on television. Having said that,
and applying my knowledge of MO laws that MAY be similar to TX law, I can
offer a possible explanation.
DPS officers may be able to enforce state laws anywhere in the state, on
any road. In that case, they would not be "out of their jurisdiction."
However, on the same road, they may not be allowed to enforce municipal
or local ordinances. The fines set by the state will probably be seen
only at the county seat, and are applicable to the state laws the DPS
officer cited. Had you been stopped by a municipal/city officer, the
fines would probably have been set in the Houston City Courts.
As a municipal officer, I may write violations of our municipal code and
state statutes. Our Highway Patrol will enforce state statutes, but not
write for municipal ordinance violations.
Hope this helps, get an attorney, see is he/she can play "Let's Make A
Deal" with the court.
John
AS I have many friends who are deputy sheriffs in ohio, I know that they can
cite within city limits but only under state laws.
They can not enforce speeding laws within the city limits because that is
not governed by state law.
They can, however, cite for running red ligths, failure to stop at stop
signs and other items that are governed by state law.
As I understand it, Texas DPS officers are the law anywhere in texas and can
cite for just about wnything any where.
I think that the original question was whether or not the officer was proper
for sitting where he was.
Being under an overpass like that is no big deal.
As a trucker, I see this on a daily basis.
You can't see the officer until you're almost beside him and you get nailed
for that lead foot of yours.
Who's to blame but yourself?
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 01:11:04 GMT, webelder@hotmail.com wrote:
I recently was nailed (radar) speeding on a Houston city street by a
DPS trooper sitting _under_ an Interstate (288) highway overpass.I was
additionally ticketed for Expired DL and No Insurance.
The tickets indicate I must appear in a Harris County JP Court rather
than the Houston courts.
It appears the fines are different..the County fines for the same
tickets are higher.
My question: Why the difference? It was a "city" street where I
commited these "traffic crimes".why not have to pay "city" fines??
.What is the difference between a JP Court Ticket and a Houston
Ticket??
Somehow it seems unfair to have to pay higher fines simply because I
was stopped on a city street by a DPS trooped rather then the Houston
Police.
Any Answers?
Thanks,
Ray
OK..thanks for all the information. Does any Attorney present in this
group know for a _fact_ that a Texas DPS trooper (whom I assume was on
"State" property,while I was on "City" property) can or cannot issue a
ticket for speeding within the Houston city limits? What law would I
have to inform the JP of to try to get it dismissed??
Thanks,
Ray
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The tickets indicate I must appear in a Harris County JP Court rather
than the Houston courts.
It appears the fines are different..the County fines for the same
tickets are higher.
My question: Why the difference?
You bunch of idiots.
Why don't you try to answer his question? It's a great question, and I
am quite curious about it myself.
Rather than putting words into his mouth, hypothesizing about how he
lives his life, or assuming his thoughts about it; (ALL of which are
irrelevant!) how about a conversation relevant to the purpose of this
group: Law.
For those who are hard of comprehending here's the question in a simpler
form.
Why are different fines applicable for the same offense?
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