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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/226701p-194739c.html Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault, has made the three-hour trek from Denver and is handing out thick pamphlets filled with alarming statistics - one out of four women have been assaulted; an estimated 16% of victims come forward; 85% of sexual assaults are acquaintance rapes - less anyone lose sight of what this case is about. "This young woman was believed by a sheriff who thought there was enough evidence of a crime to arrest Kobe Bryant, by the District Attorney and two court judges who agreed it should go to trial," says Stone. "A lot of rumor, innuendo and speculation - none of which has passed the truth test in front of a jury - was put out there deliberately by the defense through motions which then immediately went up on the court site for everyone to see. "It has been hell for her because of this. Her reputation has been smeared across the country by the defense. But this young woman has a tremendous amount of courage and conviction. She continues to go forward." Stone worries about the long-term repercussions, on this accuser and those who come later. Rape crisis centers across the state, she says, have been affected; she shares anecdotal stories about victims wondering whether "it's safe to come forward when our society fails to treat them with fairness and respect."
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In article <ch0shd$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/226701p-194739c.html Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault, has made the three-hour trek from Denver and is handing out thick pamphlets filled with alarming statistics - one out of four women have been assaulted; an estimated 16% of victims come forward; 85% of sexual assaults are acquaintance rapes - less anyone lose sight of what this case is about.
When our side hands out fliers in Eagle, it is called "an attempt to influence the jury pool." When their side hands out pamphlets and fliers, it is called "The Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault." We need to target the prospective jurors and warn them what will naturally, because of people's memories, happen to them if they convict Kobe. --Tim May
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Tim May wrote:
In article <ch0shd$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: When our side hands out fliers in Eagle, it is called "an attempt to influence the jury pool." When their side hands out pamphlets and fliers, it is called "The Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault."
Your side being the side that's in favor of sexual assault?
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"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote news:300820042108017264%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
In article <ch0shd$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: When our side hands out fliers in Eagle, it is called "an attempt to influence the jury pool." When their side hands out pamphlets and fliers, it is called "The Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault." We need to target the prospective jurors and warn them what will naturally, because of people's memories, happen to them if they convict Kobe.
The fudgepacker is doomed. Don't you think that it's quite obvious? But I'm still curious and impatient to learn about what "will naturally happen" to prospective jurors in case they happen to convict Kobe.... -- _____________________________________________________ I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- "The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ ___________________________________________________ --
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/226701p-194739c.html Cynthia Stone, spokeswoman for the Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault, has made the three-hour trek from Denver and is handing out thick pamphlets filled with alarming statistics - one out of four women have
been
assaulted;
If that means "sexually", it's bull#@($. If it doesn't mean "sexually", far more men than women are victims of assault.
an estimated 16% of victims come forward;
Pretty much the same as for other violent crimes.
85% of sexual assaults are acquaintance rapes - less anyone lose sight of what this case is
about. That's a blindingly obvious lie. 85% of sexual assaults aren't rapes at all, since the number of rapes is far less than half of the number of sexual assaults.
"This young woman was believed by a sheriff who thought there was enough evidence of a crime to arrest Kobe Bryant, by the District Attorney and
two
court judges who agreed it should go to trial," says Stone.
Yeah, but ask them now -- off duty and away from the press.
"A lot of rumor, innuendo and speculation - none of which has passed the truth test in
front
of a jury - was put out there deliberately by the defense through motions which then immediately went up on the court site for everyone to see.
Nothing the accuser has said has passed the truth test of the jury either. Notice how this propaganda whore switches from the "sherrif standard" when talking about the accuser, to the "jury standard" when talking about the defense?
"It has been hell for her because of this. Her reputation has been smeared across the country by the defense.
So? Kobe's reputation has been smeared across the country by HER, as well as by the prosecution.
But this young woman has a tremendous amount of courage and conviction. She continues to go forward."
So does Kobe.
Stone worries about the long-term repercussions, on this accuser and those who come later.
But she conspicuously DOESN'T worry about the long term repercussions on the accused.
Rape crisis centers across the state, she says, have been affected; she shares anecdotal stories about victims wondering whether
"it's
safe to come forward when our society fails to treat them with fairness
and
respect."
You mean when our society *DOES* treat them with fairness -- instead of the preference that you expect for them.
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In article <t1TYc.37890$JG7.16019@hydra.nntpserver.com>, Nicole <nkinlon@nativeweb.net> wrote:
Tim May wrote: Your side being the side that's in favor of sexual assault?
The side in favor of justice. We are distributing material to explain to potential jurors the life-changing consequences should they be selected to be on the jury and decide against justice and in favor of shrill feminista cant. --Tim May
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s_knight8 wrote: ....snipped to point ...
Stone worries about the long-term repercussions, on this accuser and those who come later. Rape crisis centers across the state, she says, have been affected; she shares anecdotal stories about victims wondering whether "it's safe to come forward when our society fails to treat them with fairness and respect."
I think the only woman who *doesn't* worry about the repercussions of this case and this victim's treatment on the rest of us, is Bryant's lawyer! yD
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Tim May wrote:
In article <t1TYc.37890$JG7.16019@hydra.nntpserver.com>, Nicole <nkinlon@nativeweb.net> wrote: The side in favor of justice. We are distributing material to explain to potential jurors the life-changing consequences should they be selected to be on the jury and decide against justice and in favor of shrill feminista cant. --Tim May
The above statement alone shows that you are not advocating a fair trial for Bryant. yD
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Tim May wrote:
In article <t1TYc.37890$JG7.16019@hydra.nntpserver.com>, Nicole <nkinlon@nativeweb.net> wrote: The side in favor of justice. We are distributing material to explain to potential jurors the life-changing consequences should they be selected to be on the jury and decide against justice and in favor of shrill feminista cant. --Tim May
So that would be a "yes?" Got it.
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"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote news:300820042230424880%timcmay@removethis.got.net...
In article <t1TYc.37890$JG7.16019@hydra.nntpserver.com>, Nicole <nkinlon@nativeweb.net> wrote: The side in favor of justice. We are distributing material to explain to potential jurors the life-changing consequences should they be selected to be on the jury and decide against justice and in favor of shrill feminista cant.
Tim, shouldn't you then post a full list of those "life changing consequences," so I could use them in the capacity of solid evidence against perpetuation of the incarceration industry, and valid arguments to promote changes in Judicial System, instead of using it as a tool for *influencing the jurors*, which is in fact promoting further injustice, rather than favoring justice...? -- _____________________________________________________ I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- "The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~ ___________________________________________________ --
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<...one out of four women have been assaulted...> Why do I find this statistic hard to believe? 25% of women are assulted in this contry... BS; I don't buy it. What counts as an "assult"? Someone asking for a date? I would like to see the evidence to support this 25% number. If 25% of women in this country are asulted, they would all be carrying guns to protect themselves. This is a huge number and I don't buy it.
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lakefan wrote:
<...one out of four women have been assaulted...> Why do I find this statistic hard to believe? 25% of women are assulted in this contry... BS; I don't buy it. What counts as an "assult"?
For one thing, a completed or attempted rape From the U.S. National Center fot Injury Prevention and Control http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm Sexual Violence: Fact Sheet Occurrence (Variations in statistics result from differences in how data sources define sexual violence and gather information about it.) # The National Violence Against Women Survey found that 1 in 6 women and 1 in 33 men in the United States has experienced an attempted or completed rape at some time in their lives (Tjaden 2000). # More than half of all rapes of women occur before age 18; 22% occur before age 12 (Tjaden 2000). # According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 260,000 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2000; 246,180 of them occurred among females and 14,770, among males (Department of Justice 2001). # The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000). # Fewer than half (48%) of all rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (DOJ 2001). # According to the Youth Risk Behavior Surveillance Survey (YRBSS), a national survey of high school students, 7.7% of students had been forced to have sexual intercourse when they did not want to. Female students (10%) were significantly more likely than male students (5%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse. Overall, black students (10%) were significantly more likely than white students (7%) to have been forced to have sexual intercourse (CDC 2002). # In 2000, nearly 88,000 children in the United States experienced sexual abuse (ACF 2002). http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm
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Nicole wrote:
lakefan wrote: For one thing, a completed or attempted rape
Yeah, but for ONLY one thing... that's the point. Many OTHER things could be, and probably are, in that statistic. IOW, many things that are NOT "a completed or attempted rape".
From the U.S. National Center fot Injury Prevention and Control http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm Sexual Violence: Fact Sheet
Always be sceptical when you see "sexual violence" and "fact sheet" in the same sentence or line of text.
Occurrence (Variations in statistics result from differences in how data sources define sexual violence and gather information about it.) # The National Violence Against Women Survey
Which is guaranteed to *NOT* be an un-biased source...
found that 1 in 6 women and 1 in 33 men in the United States has experienced an attempted or completed rape at some time in their lives (Tjaden 2000).
Which is bull#@($. There are at least 100,000,000 women in the US. There are 100,000 reported rapes or attempted rapes per year. You do the math. The average age of an american woman would have to be over 1000 years for that to be true.
# More than half of all rapes of women occur before age 18; 22% occur before age 12 (Tjaden 2000).
By the way, Tjaden is a liar.
# According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 260,000 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2000;
Ah, but there we go -- we've suddenly transitioned, without comment, from "rapes or attempted rapes" to "rapes OR SEXUAL ASSAULTS". Most of those 260,000 "rapes or sexual assaults" were NOT RAPES.
246,180 of them occurred among females and 14,770, among males (Department of Justice 2001). # The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000).
And you can stop right there, because that study has been so long and so badly debunked that anyone who cites it has to be coming from the worst possible feminist agenda. And anyone who BELIEVES that one of every four college woman has experienced a completed or attempted rape during their college careers is AT BEST an idiot.
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Michael Snyder wrote:
Nicole wrote: Yeah, but for ONLY one thing... that's the point. Many OTHER things could be, and probably are, in that statistic. IOW, many things that are NOT "a completed or attempted rape". Always be sceptical when you see "sexual violence" and "fact sheet" in the same sentence or line of text.
Yawn! Occurrence (Variations in statistics result from differences in how data sources define sexual violence and gather information about it.) # The National Violence Against Women Survey
Which is guaranteed to *NOT* be an un-biased source...
Care to present your evidence of bias? found that 1 in 6 women and 1 in 33 men in the United States has experienced an attempted or completed rape at some time in their lives (Tjaden 2000).
Which is bull#@($. There are at least 100,000,000 women in the US. There are 100,000 reported rapes or attempted rapes per year. You do the math. The average age of an american woman would have to be over 1000 years for that to be true.
You claim to know the absolute number of rapes that occur in the U.S. every year. What is the source of your statistics? # More than half of all rapes of women occur before age 18; 22% occur before age 12 (Tjaden 2000).
By the way, Tjaden is a liar.
Yawn! Argumentum ad hominum doesn't refute the assertion. Can you show that s/e's lying *here*? # According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, more than 260,000 rapes or sexual assaults occurred in 2000;
Ah, but there we go -- we've suddenly transitioned, without comment, from "rapes or attempted rapes" to "rapes OR SEXUAL ASSAULTS". Most of those 260,000 "rapes or sexual assaults" were NOT RAPES.
More semantic gymnastics, I see. The "transition" appears to have occured solely in your mind, since the topic is and was rapes and other sexual assaults - which include attempted rapes.
And you can stop right there, because that study has been so long and so badly debunked
Sources please?
that anyone who cites it has to be coming from the worst possible feminist agenda.
Yes: having such a blatantly anti-male agenda as to be opposed to rape.
And anyone who BELIEVES that one of every four college woman has experienced a completed or attempted rape during their college careers is AT BEST an idiot.
Or is famale, and has been to college in the U.S. in the past 20 years. BTW, I know communities in the U.S. where the rate of rape is much higher than the 1 in 6 figure you find so unbelievable in the population at large, or even the 1 in 4 rate among college women. Of course, those are poor communities of color, and it's only women we're talking about. So to somebody as dedicated to minimizing rape as you are, they should be pretty easy to dismiss, eh?
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lakefan wrote: For one thing, a completed or attempted rape
# The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000).
LOL. "Estimated" is right. They didn't actually *find* that 1 in 4 college women experienced a completed or attempted rape. In fact, they found that 1 in 36 college women experienced a completed or attempted rape. They *projected* that 1 in 4 might over a period of 5 years, using a laughably illogical projection method. Here's another one from "The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study": The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study also estimated that 13 percent of college women had been stalked since the beginning of the school year. "Stalking" was defined as any kind of communication, including e-mails, that was repeated and seemed obsessive and induced anxiety, and could be from anyone including boyfriends. Any unsuccessful attempt to make out was considered "sexual victimization," as were: General sexist remarks in front of you Cat calls, whistles about your looks, or noises with sexual overtones Obscene telephone calls or messages Asked questions about sex or romantic life when clearly none of their business False rumors about sex life with them or other people Someone exposed you to pornographic pictures or materials when you did not agree to see them Someone exposed their sexual organs to you when you did not agree to see them Anyone, without your consent, observed or tried to observe you while you were undressing, nude, or in a sexual act Anyone, without your consent, showed .. or played.. photographs, videotapes, or audiotapes ... sex or in a nude or seminude state Here is the actual study: http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf
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Nicole wrote:
Tim May wrote: Your side being the side that's in favor of sexual assault?
He didn't say that at all, you dumb lying cunthole for genetic reasons. But... I'm in favor of sexual assualt (but only if it's good and bloody and the cunthole is under age). What are you going to do now?
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Nicole wrote:
Tim May wrote: So that would be a "yes?" Got it.
You need to have your face beat in with a stick --right in front of the baby jesus. When this happens, what will you do?
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Nicole wrote:
From the U.S. National Center fot Injury Prevention and Control http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/svfacts.htm Sexual Violence: Fact Sheet
It's all bull#@($. Absolutely. You have no evidence.
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In article <9jhZc.50$N4.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote:
Any unsuccessful attempt to make out was considered "sexual victimization," as were: General sexist remarks in front of you Cat calls, whistles about your looks, or noises with sexual overtones Obscene telephone calls or messages Asked questions about sex or romantic life when clearly none of their business False rumors about sex life with them or other people Someone exposed you to pornographic pictures or materials when you did not agree to see them Someone exposed their sexual organs to you when you did not agree to see them Anyone, without your consent, observed or tried to observe you while you were undressing, nude, or in a sexual act Anyone, without your consent, showed .. or played.. photographs, videotapes, or audiotapes ... sex or in a nude or seminude state Here is the actual study: http://www.ncjrs.org/pdffiles1/nij/182369.pdf
Which of the above do you think are OK?
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:15:33 GMT, "Offshore Eddie" <eddie@nospam.com> wrote:
LOL. "Estimated" is right. They didn't actually *find* that 1 in 4 college women experienced a completed or attempted rape. In fact, they found that 1 in 36 college women experienced a completed or attempted rape.
why is this NOT surprising? A women's feminist group possibly exaggerates claims of abuse?
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On 1 Sep 2004 09:30:23 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <9jhZc.50$N4.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote: Which of the above do you think are OK?
I am a man and i occassionally work with an all-female design team. I lost count of the "general sexist remarks" made in front of me long ago. Does that make me a victim? If so, what kind of laughing stock wold i make if i complained? Again, if one of these women showed me a nude or pornographic photograph without my consent, (not that they have), wouldnt a lot of people look at me strangely if i complained? (altho a nude photograph complaint would certianly be taken more seriously than "general sexist remarks") most of the above list of complaints, yeah, they seem pretty serious to me.
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tjab wrote:
Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote: Which of the above do you think are OK?
When did you stop molesting children? TR II ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
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In article <61mbj098p5pk70fvg2q2ejn16tqon7fict@4ax.com>, howldog <nope@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 1 Sep 2004 09:30:23 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote: I am a man and i occassionally work with an all-female design team. I lost count of the "general sexist remarks" made in front of me long ago. Does that make me a victim? If so, what kind of laughing stock wold i make if i complained?
Give me some examples, and I'll give you my opinion.
Again, if one of these women showed me a nude or pornographic photograph without my consent, (not that they have), wouldnt a lot of people look at me strangely if i complained? (altho a nude photograph complaint would certianly be taken more seriously than "general sexist remarks") most of the above list of complaints, yeah, they seem pretty serious to me.
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In article <16xzs31l50d40.17n2vq8dovoly.dlg@40tude.net>, T_R <krammit@upyo.net> wrote:
tjab wrote: When did you stop molesting children?
Are you accusing me of having molested children? Think carefully about your answer.
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howldog wrote:
On 1 Sep 2004 09:30:23 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote: I am a man and i occassionally work with an all-female design team. I lost count of the "general sexist remarks" made in front of me long ago. Does that make me a victim? If so, what kind of laughing stock wold i make if i complained? Again, if one of these women showed me a nude or pornographic photograph without my consent, (not that they have), wouldnt a lot of people look at me strangely if i complained? (altho a nude photograph complaint would certianly be taken more seriously than "general sexist remarks") most of the above list of complaints, yeah, they seem pretty serious to me.
So what. Let them fight their own battles... Let the animals eat them. Let the diseases kill them and the floods sweep them away. Watch and laugh. I know I do. Stop caring what happens to them--stop letting them conscript you with *their* morality. Trust me: it is *their* morality that you have been multi generationally inculcated by. And you've inculcated by mothers who cared more about female strangers than their own sons. Of course the reverse --fathers caring more about stranger boys than their own daughters has never happened. Females are dumb ignoble cunts --who are the key underlying problem with most things and they should be hurt through any means necessary. learn it, love it, live it.
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tjab wrote:
In article <16xzs31l50d40.17n2vq8dovoly.dlg@40tude.net>, T_R <krammit@upyo.net> wrote: Are you accusing me of having molested children? Think carefully about your answer.
I, like every freethinker, thought carefully about an answer: Modern liberalism IS abusing children. Definitely. Now, how does one define "molest"?
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tjab wrote:
In article <61mbj098p5pk70fvg2q2ejn16tqon7fict@4ax.com>, howldog <nope@yahoo.com> wrote: Give me some examples, and I'll give you my opinion.
Your opinion means nothing. Only your death does. Again, if one of these women showed me a nude or pornographic photograph without my consent, (not that they have), wouldnt a lot of people look at me strangely if i complained? (altho a nude photograph complaint would certianly be taken more seriously than "general sexist remarks") most of the above list of complaints, yeah, they seem pretty serious to me.
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tjab wrote:
T_R <krammit@upyo.net> wrote: Are you accusing me of having molested children?
I posed a question of precisely the same style and nature as theas you just tried. Are you afraid to answer? Then let me ask again: when did you stop molesting children?
Think carefully about your answer.
Any thinking involved in my answer will naturally include much care than a feminist or one of their apologists could ever muster. Even if I didn't bother to think about it. But here's another question for your pondering pleasure: if I were to accuse you drectly of molesting children, so what? Think VERY carefully before you try to bluster your way through that one. TR II ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
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Sean_MacCloud wrote:
tjab wrote: I, like every freethinker, thought carefully about an answer: Modern liberalism IS abusing children. Definitely. Now, how does one define "molest"?
Notice that he failed to answer. Makes you wonder, eh? TR II ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---
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T_R <trell133a@hotmail.com> wrote:
tjab wrote: I posed a question of precisely the same style and nature as theas you just tried.
rotfl. I hope you don't really believe that. His question was in the nature and style of one who was curious about something. Your response was in the nature and style of one who wouldn't, couldn't or shouldn't answer his.
Are you afraid to answer? Then let me ask again: when did you stop molesting children?
Have you stopped trying to sire your own grandchildren? (Don't bother to mention that this is exactly like your question and not at all like his. I know that.) Think carefully about your answer.
Any thinking involved in my answer will naturally include much care than a feminist or one of their apologists could ever muster. Even if I didn't bother to think about it.
Are you accusing feminists and those you describe as their apologists of being completely incoherent, i.e., just one little step less coherent than that paragraph? Why are you describing your thinking as so superior to the thinking of those people? I see that you'd need to mention that if you want it to be "known," but really, no one cares.
But here's another question for your pondering pleasure: if I were to accuse you drectly of molesting children, so what?
I don't know what he would think, but I'd suspect projection.
Think VERY carefully before you try to bluster your way through that one.
....he blustered. Never mind all that stuff (not that it wasn't mildly amusing). Which, if any, of those things are, in your opinion, okay? Note that this is a simple, straightforward question about your opinion of the items on that list. She offered it, Bryant took it, and then she smelled money. *********************The alt.fan.oj-simpson FAQ******************* Q1: Did The Real Killer walk away from the carcasses at Bundy with O.J. Simpson's blood dripping from a cut on his finger? A1: Yes. ******************************************************************
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<...one out of four women have been assaulted...> Why do I find this statistic hard to believe?
Ummm... because it's baloney? Because you have more than two neurons in your head?
25% of women are assulted in this contry... BS; I don't buy it. What counts as an "assult"? Someone asking for a date? I would like to see the evidence to support this 25% number. If 25% of women in this country are asulted, they would all be carrying guns to protect themselves. This is a huge number and I don't buy it.
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Michael Snyder wrote:
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In article <a0dzhdod4ccw.16ml2s3xr0i2.dlg@40tude.net>, T_R <krammit@upyo.net> wrote:
tjab wrote: I posed a question of precisely the same style and nature as theas you just tried. Are you afraid to answer? Then let me ask again: when did you stop molesting children?
If you're not accusing me, there's nothing to answer.
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