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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpYTg2ZTBwBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYw
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Text of Kobe Bryant's statement read in court by his attorney, Pamela
Mackey:
``I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the
consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been
incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has
had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members,
and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle,
Colo.
Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter.
I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case
ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me
will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the
parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial
or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado.''
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In article <ch5rmo$93u@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpYTg2ZTBwBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYw
N0bQ--?slug=ap-bryantcase-statement&prov=ap&type=lgns
Text of Kobe Bryant's statement read in court by his attorney, Pamela
Mackey:
``I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the
consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been
incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has
had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members,
and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle,
Colo.
Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter.
I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case
ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me
will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the
parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial
or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado.''
Sounds like a settlement is in the works.
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"s_knight8" > wrote in message >
``I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the
consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has
been
incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she
has
had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members,
and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle,
Colo.
Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same
way
I did.
If this is truly his statement, then he is a fool.....He should have simply
stated "I have said I was innocent all along". Now he recognizes she views
it different? All she wants is your money Kobe....THINK!!!
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On 1 Sep 2004 21:32:14 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <ch5rmo$93u@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a settlement is in the works.
Sounds like lots of eggs on your face, or chas's face, "vox"'s face, and
on the face of other retarded feminists like you.
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Now he should sue her and the state should sue also. Put the ho in jail.
"s_knight8" > wrote in message >
been
has
way
If this is truly his statement, then he is a fool.....He should have
simply
stated "I have said I was innocent all along". Now he recognizes she views
it different? All she wants is your money Kobe....THINK!!!
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Kobe, if you are really innocent, your fans will expect you to file suit
asap against the state of colorado. If you really did rape her, then
dont sue.
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never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we," President george bush (AKA president dumb dumb)
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In article <10jd2j5sr0fro5b@corp.supernews.com>,
Aluckyguess <notme@lakers.com> wrote:
Now he should sue her and the state should sue also. Put the ho in jail.
He'd look pretty stupid doing that after he apologized to her.
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"s_knight8" > wrote in message >
been
has
way
If this is truly his statement, then he is a fool.....He should have
simply
stated "I have said I was innocent all along". Now he recognizes she views
it different? All she wants is your money Kobe....THINK!!!
It was agreed that Bryant's statement could not be used in any civil suit.
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"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
Sounds like lots of eggs on your face, or chas's face, "vox"'s face, and
on the face of other retarded feminists like you.
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
Chas
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"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
What evidence? Even the prosecution's own HIRED expert said their evidence
was weak. Meanwhile, the prosecution's own CBI is testifying for the
defense. Basically TWO experts from the prosecution switched sides.
He refused to plea to a lesser charge. However, a simple statement, written
by his lawyers was enough to get the case tossed.
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world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
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"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He obviously just said that as part of the agreement to drop the criminal
case. And his statement says that he did NOT know the sex was NOT
consensual. He just said that he has now realized she didn't think it was
consensual, meaning she probably didn't like him ejaculating on her face.
Who cares. Never should have been a case at all.
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:45:50 -0400, "Nexus" <nexus@attglobal.net>
wrote:
It was agreed that Bryant's statement could not be used in any civil suit.
how do you know this?
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"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
Chas
You are a sad pathetic deluded dumbass aren't you...
Chas: "the civil case goes forward on the evidence"
Thanks for the laugh loser.
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Chas wrote:
"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He admitted what? He maintained that the encounter was consentual.
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agakhan <agakhan@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:ja4dj0h7equ471d00e0l0m07ftgcp1q52f@4ax.com:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 22:45:50 -0400, "Nexus" <nexus@attglobal.net>
wrote:
how do you know this?
I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this
young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that
this statement will not be used against me in the civil case.
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/nation/9557278.htm?1c
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matters to me, even if it's not my child. If there's a senior citizen
somewhere who can't pay for her prescription and has to choose between
medicine and the rent, that makes my life poorer, even if it's not my
grandmother. If there's an Arab American family being rounded up without
benefit of an attorney or due process, that threatens my civil liberties.
It's that fundamental belief-I am my brother's keeper, I am my sisters'
keeper-that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our
individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family.
"E pluribus unum." Out of many, one.
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"Offshore Eddie" <eddie@nospam.com> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He obviously just said that as part of the agreement to drop the criminal
case.
Sure.
He had to apologize.
And his statement says that he did NOT know the sex was NOT
consensual.
But now he knows that she thought it wasn't, and since it was her consent in
question, he's just sorry as he can be.
yeah.
He just said that he has now realized she didn't think it was
consensual, meaning she probably didn't like him ejaculating on her face.
Gee; and you'd think that it would have to be pretty obvious for someone to
give consent to that- degradation being so appealing and all.
Chas
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"Miguel M" <PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He admitted what? He maintained that the encounter was consentual.
He maintained that he never formed the mens rea for the crime; he thought
she consented and then realized that she had not.
He confirmed her sincerity in the charge; thanked Jesus for getting the hell
out of there and looked forward to settling the civil case.
Good plan.
Chas
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"Miguel M" <PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote He admitted it. He apologized for it. He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence. Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone. He maintained that he never formed the mens rea for the crime; he thought she consented and then realized that she had not. He confirmed her sincerity in the charge; thanked Jesus for getting the hell out of there and looked forward to settling the civil case. Good plan. Chas
A good plan would be for you to crawl back under the rock you came from
before you look any more pathetic and deluded...
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"Miguel M" <PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He maintained that he never formed the mens rea for the crime; he thought
she consented and then realized that she had not.
He confirmed her sincerity in the charge; thanked Jesus for getting the
hell
out of there and looked forward to settling the civil case.
Good plan.
He hasn't confirmed anything. His lawyers just said his statements were a
condition for her dropping out of the case. And now Jim Gray, who has
covered Kobe since he was in high school, is saying that Kobe won't settle
with her.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpYTg2ZTBwBF9TAzk1ODYxOTQ4BHNlYw
N0bQ--?slug=ap-bryantcase-statement&prov=ap&type=lgns
Text of Kobe Bryant's statement read in court by his attorney, Pamela
Mackey:
``I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the
consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been
incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has
had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members,
and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle,
Colo.
Why would he believe she's endured pain if he in fact doesn't believe he
raped her? Any pain would be of her own doing, and nothing he did.
This just doesn't wash logically.
Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did.
There really isn't any question in consenual sex.
After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter.
I issue this statement today fully aware that while one part of this case
ends today, another remains. I understand that the civil case against me
will go forward. That part of this case will be decided by and between the
parties directly involved in the incident and will no longer be a financial
or emotional drain on the citizens of the state of Colorado.''
So he's saying he can't tell when a women doesn't want to have sex with
him? It seems to me that Kobe is admitting to rape and pleading
ignorance that he just couldn't tell that she didn't want to.
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tjab wrote:
In article <ch5rmo$93u@dispatch.concentric.net>,
s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a settlement is in the works.
Sounds like he is basically doing the equivalent of pleading no contest
and getting ready to throw some cash her way instead of jail time.
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tjab wrote:
Sounds like he is basically doing the equivalent of pleading no contest
and getting ready to throw some cash her way instead of jail time.
He had his lawyers read a letter prepared by John Clune while he was home
with his family.
Sounds like they pleaded with him to take the deal. Have your lawyer read
this letter, and we'll drop out.
Face, it, Kate Faber refused to be cross examined. Dr. Baden has become a
defense witness (now for the civil trial) CBI says Kate Faber had sex after
Kobe and lied about it, and Kate Faber is willing to take a letter in
exchange for being "raped".
She's a liar, and she got exposed.
Next step, expose her in civil court where there is no rape shield law.
Finally, we can find out which man left semen on her neck.
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Chas wrote:
"Miguel M" <PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote
He admitted it.
He apologized for it.
He knows the civil case goes forward on the evidence.
Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
He maintained that he never formed the mens rea for the crime; he thought
she consented and then realized that she had not.
He thought that she had consented, and now realizes that she thinks she
did not.
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In article <10jdeooku3qia17@corp.supernews.com>, Miguel M
<PoetUNoet@iwon.com> wrote:
He maintained that he never formed the mens rea for the crime; he thought
she consented and then realized that she had not.
He thought that she had consented, and now realizes that she thinks she
did not.
He realizes now that she thought he was a big NBA star who would make
her famous with her friends, and make four of her former @$#*buddies
jealous, but then he realized she was angling for a role as a Laker
Girl and a chance at the cover of the special issue "Girls of the NBA."
He realizes now that he was in no position to promise either of these
things to her and he understands why she is using Jew shysters to try
to get some bling bling.
--Tim May
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Miguel M wrote:
Chas wrote:
He thought that she had consented, and now realizes that she thinks
she did not.
Either way it doesn't matter, since intent is not an element of
the crime of rape, as defined in the 21st century US.
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In article <oBzZc.698$G1.76@news.flashnewsgroups.com>,
spammy <spammy@nospam.net> wrote:
Either way it doesn't matter, since intent is not an element of
the crime of rape, as defined in the 21st century US.
It matters to wacky feminists.
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never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we," President george bush (AKA president dumb dumb)
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In article <2wyZc.10723$QJ3.4884@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
"Unabogie" <unabogie@no.spam.hotmail.com> wrote:
He had his lawyers read a letter prepared by John Clune while he was home
with his family.
Sounds like they pleaded with him to take the deal. Have your lawyer read
this letter, and we'll drop out.
Face, it, Kate Faber refused to be cross examined. Dr. Baden has become a
defense witness (now for the civil trial) CBI says Kate Faber had sex after
Kobe and lied about it, and Kate Faber is willing to take a letter in
exchange for being "raped".
She's a liar, and she got exposed.
If that is the case, kobe, you are ONE STUPID MOTHERMFUC*er. Kobe
WANTED TO GO TO TRIAL!!! THEY WERE GOING TO EAT HER UP FOR LUNCH!! THE
JUDGE WAS GOING TO STOP THE CASE AFTER KF TESTIFIED BECAUSE THEIR WOULD
BE NO NEED FOR A CASE. You are a dumbf*** kobe.
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never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people,
and neither do we," President george bush (AKA president dumb dumb)
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in article Sb2dnQhXtOuVEKvcRVn-tQ@comcast.com, Chas at
chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net wrote on 9/1/04 8:01 PM:
"Sports Fan" <sports@fan.home> wrote
He admitted it. He apologized for it. He knows the civil case goes forward on
the evidence. Yeppers; big money coming, after big money gone.
What did he admit? Poor behavior. He sees it as consensual, he knows that
she sees it as non-consensual, and he now understands her feeling that way.
He's a gentleman.
George Evans
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in article 10jdcbi4s9vuee8@corp.supernews.com, Jason Bowen at no@spam.net
wrote on 9/1/04 10:36 PM:
s_knight8 wrote:
Why would he believe she's endured pain if he in fact doesn't believe he
raped her? Any pain would be of her own doing, and nothing he did.
This just doesn't wash logically.
He's be polite.
Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did.
There really isn't any question in consenual sex.
So he's saying he can't tell when a women doesn't want to have sex with
him? It seems to me that Kobe is admitting to rape and pleading
ignorance that he just couldn't tell that she didn't want to.
I take it you haven't been around a woman much if you think a woman's
signals are always clear. Take this test. A woman sneaks into your hotel
room late at night. After some conversation she lifts her dress to shows you
her tatoo on her lower back just above her thong. Then she starts making out
with you, with tongue, with her arms draped around your neck.
What's your expert assessment so far?
George Evans
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in article 10jdcgf35tpg743@corp.supernews.com, Jason Bowen at no@spam.net
wrote on 9/1/04 10:39 PM:
tjab wrote:
Sounds like he is basically doing the equivalent of pleading no contest
and getting ready to throw some cash her way instead of jail time.
Sounds like your confused. There is no more case. He's not pleading
anything. Jail time for what?
George Evans
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s_knight8 wrote:
I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter.
Since her consent was the only element of rape
left open to question, isn't this essentially
a confession of guilt?
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<snip>
What did he admit? Poor behavior. He sees it as consensual, he knows
that
she sees it as non-consensual, and he now understands her feeling
that way.
He's a gentleman.
George Evans
"Gentleman"?
I wouldn't exactly call a man who cheats on his wife a gentleman.
From Webster's:
(2) : a man whose conduct conforms to a high standard of propriety or
correct behavior
JJ
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In article <BD5C2BAF.135E%georgee@pe.net>,
George Evans <georgee@pe.net> wrote:
in article Sb2dnQhXtOuVEKvcRVn-tQ@comcast.com, Chas at
chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net wrote on 9/1/04 8:01 PM:
What did he admit? Poor behavior. He sees it as consensual, he knows that
she sees it as non-consensual, and he now understands her feeling that way.
He's a gentleman.
I think given all that's happened you're going a little overboard with your
[almost said something rude], but in this particular instance at least,
Bryant has shown himself to be a bigger man than many who defend him here.
If he weasels on his apology later, of course, consider the above void.
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:22:22 -0700, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
wrote:
Sounds like lots of eggs on your face, or chas's face, "vox"'s face,
and
on the face of other retarded feminists like you.
Sounds like there is an admission of rape.
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Charlie Board wrote:
s_knight8 wrote:
Since her consent was the only element of rape
left open to question, isn't this essentially
a confession of guilt?
Yeah, curious isn't it that he says he understands her feelings and says
he's sorry for the pain he caused? If you're innocent, you're innocent,
there is no gray area there.
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George Evans wrote:
in article 10jdcgf35tpg743@corp.supernews.com, Jason Bowen at no@spam.net
wrote on 9/1/04 10:39 PM:
Sounds like your confused. There is no more case. He's not pleading
anything. Jail time for what?
I know Colorado law. Pleading no contest is the same as pleding guilty
but not saying you are guilty. I'm speaking metaphorically, not
literally. Sounds like he is apologizing(but wait he didn't do
anything) and there is a deal in the works. His statement doesn't wash.
The whole thing is sordid and all involved are #@($ty people. I doubt
it was the first time Kobe cheated. It is not like he knew this girl
for a long period of time and developed some relationship and then slept
with her, he took it pretty casual which suggests he was comfortable
with it. A lot of people don't seem to want to acknowledge that.
George Evans
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:22:22 -0700, Sports Fan <sports@fan.home>
wrote:
and
Sounds like there is an admission of rape.
Sounds like you are a poor deluded idiot...
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