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http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,0 0.html "I take full responsibility for all of the errors that have been made," said Ruckriegle. "But the mistakes were made by people just like you, who are sitting out there." And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind."
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In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind."
Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened.
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tjab <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:ch626d$rgc@rac1.wam.umd.edu...
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,
00.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind."
Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened.
She isn't just any alleged friend. She lived at the accuser's house for awhile. -- "The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers." - Congressman Louis McFadden
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In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened.
Wow...is that all you have left? LOL
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened.
Wow...is that all you have left? LOL
So what did you think of Bryant's apology?
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_315431
3,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL
So what did you think of Bryant's apology?
i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. So what did you think of Bryant's apology?
I think team Bryant got exactly what they wanted. All criminal charges dropped with no possibility of a retrial. Kobe admitted absolutely no wrongdoing and under the condition that nothing in his statement could be used in civil lawsuit he acquiesced to the most minimal of requests from the alleged victim and prosecution so the can try and save some face.
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In article <2pnk86Fmt86uU1@uni-berlin.de>, brink <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote:
3,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
You're saying he lied, that he was afraid he might lose in court, or both?
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EAGLE, CO -- Kobe Bryant accuser REDACTED REDACTED said tonight she is happy with the outcome and that her appearance in "Girls of the NBA" in the December, 2004 issue of "Playboy" is her reward. (rest of issue available to subscribers at www.bling-bling-hoes.com)
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Kobe admitted absolutely no wrongdoing and under the condition that nothing in his statement could be used in civil lawsuit he acquiesced to the most minimal of requests from the alleged victim and prosecution so the can try and save some face.
Altogether a very small price to pay to free himself from the uncertainties and further stress of a criminal trial even though it was looking more and more like a slam dunk for him. Remember last year at this time? All the talk from the haters, some of them still with us, about how Kobe would be going away for a long time? Perhaps they, like Hurlbert, slightly overestimated the strength of the prosecution's case. Or perhaps their underlying prejudices just kept them, the Colorado sheriff, and D.A's office, from seeing the weaknesses of the prosecution's case. We may never know...LOL!!! I can understand why Kobe and his legal team were smiling when they left the courtroom, they had good reason. This was nothing short of a BIG win for Kobe. Greg
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In article <2pnk86Fmt86uU1@uni-berlin.de>, brink <noemail@hotmail.com>
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote:
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_31543
13,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL So what did you think of Bryant's apology? i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
You're saying he lied, that he was afraid he might lose in court, or both?
not sure as to the first question but i suspect that no, he did not lie. i actually think he was speaking close to the truth as to what he believes vs. what the accuser believes. i'm sure he was also terrified--rightfully so--of a trial. so it makes sense that he was "coerced" into making such a statement--i wouldn't expect him to say something that revealing without being pressured into it.
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tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote in news:ch655n$1qp@rac1.wam.umd.edu: Wow...is that all you have left? LOL
So what did you think of Bryant's apology?
It sounded completely canned. He's going to give her some money to make this go away. So much for her thirst for justice. --Robert -- *** My Head Is Filled with Yeast http://www.livejournal.com/users/spimby/
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"Nexus" <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:<kSwZc.20101$CG3.1356147@news20.bellglobal.com>... "tjab" <tjab@wam.umd.edu> wrote in message news:ch655n$1qp@rac1.wam.umd.edu... In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_3154313,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL So what did you think of Bryant's apology?
I think team Bryant got exactly what they wanted. All criminal charges dropped with no possibility of a retrial. Kobe admitted absolutely no wrongdoing and under the condition that nothing in his statement could be used in civil lawsuit he acquiesced to the most minimal of requests from the alleged victim and prosecution so the can try and save some face.
I agree with the above statement. Total exoneration for Kobe. I thought that prosecutor was going to throw himself on the ground and have a major tantrum he was so upset. They could've done this weeks ago but that is just my opinion. Does anyone think it's an accident this "trial" was going to take place during the election campaign?
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On 1 Sep 2004 22:57:17 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened.
So you know the skank and can tell who is and who isn't her friend? You're just pathetic.
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"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2pnk86Fmt86uU1@uni-berlin.de>...
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_315431 3,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
Where do you get coerced? If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial. Look at the laughably bad job the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time. I think it all comes down to what he said on that police tape. Seems like things started to change when the tape was ruled admissible. Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public. Mez
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On 2 Sep 2004 16:33:43 -0700, messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote: So what did you think of Bryant's apology? i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
Where do you get coerced?
Brink should have said extortion.
If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial. Look at the laughably bad job the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time.
Do you have ANY guarantees that even innocent men do not go to jail or do not get convicted? Do you want to put your fate in the hands of 12 citizens who can be prejudiced, biased or can their opinion be contaminated by false presentation or technicalities? If you think that innocent people don't get convicted then I suggest that you head to the library and start reading.
I think it all comes down to what he said on that police tape.
Wrong. That tape has things that Kobe said that can be used to present him as a promiscuous person who likes kinky sex. That may shift some juror's opinion about him.
Seems like things started to change when the tape was ruled admissible.
Actually things really change when the judge ruled that accuser's sexual history in and around the time of the alleged incident is admissible, and before that the DNA evidence fiasco.
Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public.
He never admitted guilt. Read his text that he released to the accuser. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/16/national/main636205.shtml
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"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2pnvnkFk0q6vU2@uni-berlin.de>...
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_31543 1 3,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL So what did you think of Bryant's apology? i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case. not sure as to the first question but i suspect that no, he did not lie. i actually think he was speaking close to the truth as to what he believes vs. what the accuser believes. i'm sure he was also terrified--rightfully so--of a trial. so it makes sense that he was "coerced" into making such a statement--i wouldn't expect him to say something that revealing without being pressured into it.
That statement was artfully written by others and given to him for a courtesy read and then he signed it. He wanted out of the trial as much as she did,, this was just one piece of the closing agreement that will fianlly be reached. So many things have changed since Lin Wood came aboard as her attorney.
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"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <X1wZc.19809$CG3.1331316@news20.bellglobal.com>, Nexus <nexus@attglobal.net> wrote:
In article <ch61ls$93s@dispatch.concentric.net>, s_knight8 <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote: http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/state/article/0,1299,DRMN_21_315431 3,0 0.html And, in a scene reporters have witnessed since the woman filed the claim, the woman's Eagle friends were on hand to comment. "I hope he doesn't end up giving her a lot of money. He may have to," said Lindsey McKinney, who was once a friend of the alleged victim. McKinney questions whether an assault ever took place. "I've always been very iffey about it," she said. "I had a lot of doubt in my mind." Friends? I see one alleged friend who says she doesn't know what happened. Wow...is that all you have left? LOL So what did you think of Bryant's apology? i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case.
Where do you get coerced? If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial.
i think that's much easier for you or i to say, after all, our freedom isn't at stake. i think it's entirely plausible for him to be innocent of the charges and yet want nothing to do with any sort of a trial where who knows what might go down. i also thought that the release of more information in a report by SI might have helped speed along his willingness to come to some sort of agreement with the accuser. who knows what kind of graphic details would be forthcoming in the trial. now the details will likely not be widely released due to confidentiality agreements. that sort of stuff would be embarassing for him and would make it much more difficult to rehabilitate his image where he could get back in the endorsement game. Look at the laughably bad job
the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time.
guilty or not, i would be...
I think it all comes down to what he said on that police tape. Seems like things started to change when the tape was ruled admissible. Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public.
*bingo*--exactly what i was referring to earlier in my response to you.
Mez
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On 2 Sep 2004 16:33:43 -0700, messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote: So what did you think of Bryant's apology? i thought the wording was pretty remarkable--thaaat close to admitting
that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case. Where do you get coerced?
Brink should have said extortion.
well it works both ways. both sides had leverage and both sides apparently are getting what they want to some degree.
Do you have ANY guarantees that even innocent men do not go to jail or do not get convicted? Do you want to put your fate in the hands of 12 citizens who can be prejudiced, biased or can their opinion be contaminated by false presentation or technicalities? If you think that innocent people don't get convicted then I suggest that you head to the library and start reading. Wrong. That tape has things that Kobe said that can be used to present him as a promiscuous person who likes kinky sex. That may shift some juror's opinion about him. Actually things really change when the judge ruled that accuser's sexual history in and around the time of the alleged incident is admissible, and before that the DNA evidence fiasco. He never admitted guilt. Read his text that he released to the accuser. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/16/national/main636205.shtml
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messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote:
Where do you get coerced? If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial.
He did. Okay, I don't know that, but I do know that it wouldn't matter. I heard somewhere that all the case files are on the internet, If that's true, you can check and see if he filed a motion to deny the prosecutor's motion for dismissal. If you see anything like that, you'll probably see the judge's ruling, remanding him to the sanitation department or whatever for a mandatory mental evaluation. Anyway, anyone who can figure out which end of a basketball court he's on is smart enough not to demand to be tried for rape, even if he had secretly taped the slut begging for "rough sex." Imagine what a trial would be like if the prosecutor is forced to proceed without a real case, as here. Opening statement:"Jurors, your guess is as good as mine who's telling the truth here. We can't prove he did it, but she said he did." Opening argument: "The people rest."
Look at the laughably bad job the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time. I think it all comes down to what he said on that police tape. Seems like things started to change when the tape was ruled admissible. Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public.
That's a mighty tortured line of reasoning. Equating the goofy idea about demanding a new trial with "as much as admit guilt" is a serious sign of airheadedness. Still, I can't believe you said he can't have been too worried about jail time. He's surely aware of what the Simpson trial showed about juries...you can get 12 of the dumbest people in town, and anything can happen. This is weird. A few years ago, there was a herd of cretins in alt.fan.oj-simpson who made some astonishingly lame arguments claiming to show that O.J. "The Real Killer" Simpson was innocent, and now we have stuff like the above, trying to show that another commercial athlete is guilty.
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Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message -snip- Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public.
He never admitted guilt. Read his text that he released to the accuser. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/16/national/main636205.shtml
"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. " Funny how people keep glossing over this first sentence. Mez
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On 3 Sep 2004 07:32:40 -0700, messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote:
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message -snip- Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public. "I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. " Funny how people keep glossing over this first sentence.
because the gap between "apologizing for behavior" and criminal liability is infinite. funny how you choose to ignore this fact.
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Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message -snip- Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public. "I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. "
like i posted elsewhere, it's close to but not quite a mea culpa. and don't forget the coercion part of the equation.
Funny how people keep glossing over this first sentence.
i think it's fair to say he's admitting to more than just an "indiscretion" with that sentence--however, it is not an admission of assault.
Mez
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"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote
like i posted elsewhere, it's close to but not quite a mea culpa. and don't forget the coercion part of the equation.
They coerced him into accepting a dismissal? "Up against the wall, Mr Bryant, or we'll have to let you go" Yeaaaah; that's the ticket- they coerced him with threats of freedom. Chas
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"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote They coerced him into accepting a dismissal? "Up against the wall, Mr Bryant, or we'll have to let you go" Yeaaaah; that's the ticket- they coerced him with threats of freedom.
rather threats of his freedom being endangered, as in "give me that apology or i'm going forward with this." at the very least, kobe would not be free to be anywhere but sitting in a CO courtroom with the eyes of the world on him for the next month or so. at the worst, he might later have been rotting in prison for a decade or two. you might not like the word "coerced," but the shoe fits. i believe it also may fit the other way around, too, as in the kobe team coerced the accuser into backing out of her end of the case with the threat of "quit or you'll get no settlement and like it."
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messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote in message news:<f00c23df.0409021533.290ee5db@posting.google.com>...
"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2pnk86Fmt86uU1@uni-berlin.de>... Where do you get coerced? If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial. Look at the laughably bad job the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time. I think it all comes down to what he said on that police tape. Seems like things started to change when the tape was ruled admissible. Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public. Mez
Good hypothesis...will we ever get to hear that tape? The court let the name and other details leak out about the accuser, now let's hear the tape.
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On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 22:24:56 -0700, "brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote:
that he did assault her. it appears that it was coerced in the sense that it was required by the accuser for her to drop her end of the criminal case. Where do you get coerced? well it works both ways. both sides had leverage and both sides apparently are getting what they want to some degree.
Problem is, the accuser used the authorities with a false accusation of rape to win money and attention.
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On 3 Sep 2004 07:32:40 -0700, messalinana@yahoo.com (Messalina) wrote:
Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message -snip- Whatever it was probably wasn't enough to convict him, but cast him in such a poor light that he preferred to as much as admit guilt rather than have it made public. "I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. " Funny how people keep glossing over this first sentence.
Funny how you consider that admission of guilt. Apologizing for a behavior that someone considers bad is and admission of guilt are 2 different things. Learn how to read. And then when you do, read this part: "Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, " So are you saying that he is admitting guilt while insisting that the encounter was consensual? So where is the crime that he is admitting guilt of, if he insists that there was no crime in the first place? Funny how basic reading seems to be hard for some people.
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On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 12:16:47 -0600, "Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote:
"brink" <noemail@hotmail.com> wrote They coerced him into accepting a dismissal? "Up against the wall, Mr Bryant, or we'll have to let you go" Yeaaaah; that's the ticket- they coerced him with threats of freedom.
You are an idiot and it is showing. Bryant was given the option to go to trial, gamble with a jury that could believe the wrong person (ask your dad, and he will tell you that juries are unpredictable), or charges dropped after a carefully composed apology letter. That is coercing him, or extortion to be accurate.
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On 2 Sep 2004 16:33:43 -0700, Messalina wrote:
Where do you get coerced? If he was innocent I should think he would have DEMANDED to go on with the trial. Look at the laughably bad job the prosecutors were doing. He can't have been too worried about jail time.
When you get an opportunity to avoid putting your life in the hands of 12 strangers by issuing a paragraph statement without the possibility of it being used against you you take it and run away with it.
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