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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003 "What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault cases. "They never got to know this woman." Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility. "It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing of onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this." Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results. "The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they [prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the defense ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't want to know something. "The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and say we don't have a case."
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"sluffing?" I believe it's "sloughing."
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003 "What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault
cases.
"They never got to know this woman." Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility. "It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing
of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this." Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results. "The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they [prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the
defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't
want
to know something. "The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and
say
we don't have a case."
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003 "What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault
cases.
"They never got to know this woman." Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility. "It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing
of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this." Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results. "The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they [prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the
defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't
want
to know something. "The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and
say
we don't have a case."
Agree with Mr. Pozner. But who is this Wendy Murphy who keeps getting quoted? She sounds like a feminist publicity hound.
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In article <ijyZc.5171$w%6.96@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote:
Agree with Mr. Pozner. But who is this Wendy Murphy who keeps getting quoted? She sounds like a feminist publicity hound.
Wendy Murphy is a shrill, feminista skank who has been making the rounds of the Gerald Rivera (Gerry Rivers), Chris Matthews, sorts of shows since the O.J. trial. She always argues the "if a woman says she was raped, then she was raped" side. --Tim May
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In article <ijyZc.5171$w%6.96@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote: Wendy Murphy is a shrill, feminista skank who has been making the rounds of the Gerald Rivera (Gerry Rivers), Chris Matthews, sorts of shows since the O.J. trial. She always argues the "if a woman says she was raped, then she was raped" side.
i thought jane's name was rebecca... :-)
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s_knight8 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003 "What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault cases. "They never got to know this woman." Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility. "It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing of onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this."
Oh, and it's not the accuser's responsibility to HELP THEM?
Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results. "The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they [prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the defense ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't want to know something. "The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and say we don't have a case."
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
Oh, and it's not the accuser's responsibility to HELP THEM?
Not after their incompetance and negligence put her in mortal hazard. They did it again, right up to the days before her disgusted withdrawal. She is going forward on her own- and the Defense had to work to get his admissions and apology excluded from use in her civil trial. If there's no admission, why needs exclude it? Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote Not after their incompetance and negligence put her in mortal hazard.
Hescuse me, I don't think a subpoena can be ignored just because the reluctant witness has had to experience the exact same "mortal hazard" as the accused...
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
Hescuse me, I don't think a subpoena can be ignored just because the reluctant witness has had to experience the exact same "mortal hazard" as the accused...
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@ apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name. oops. Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@ apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
I agree. See? How easy was that.
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@ apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
I agree. See? How easy was that.
Cool. So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just about ready to file, eh? Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made available? Chas
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@ apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name. Cool. So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just about ready to file, eh? Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made available? Chas
Chas, there was an apology, no admission. You made that up.
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"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@ apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name. Cool. So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just about ready to file, eh? Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made available?
Chas, your comments are ... even more insane than mine! And I actually am insane. Seriously, get real. As in *realistic*. He has nothing to gain from suing her. She and her lawyers and supporters will just point out that she's mentally ill and try to make him look like a meanie. It's largely a he-said she-said case, so he can't conclusively prove he's innocent. Finally, even if he did prove he didn't rape her, he wouldn't get much monetary compensation out of her. It's a no-win situation for him. Her lawyers KNOW that. That is the whole scheme. Don't tell us you don't know that.
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