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Wendy Murphy says DA trying to blame the victim



"s_knight8"
9/1/2004 11:33:46 PM


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003
"What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said
Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault cases.
"They never got to know this woman."
Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said
Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility.
"It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the
prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this."
Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a
fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full
knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results.
"The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they
[prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't want
to know something.
"The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner
said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost
mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and say
we don't have a case."
 
 
9/2/2004 4:36:55 AM


"sluffing?" I believe it's "sloughing."


"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ch64aq$941@dispatch.concentric.net...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003
"What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said
Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault
cases.
"They never got to know this woman."
Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said
Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility.
"It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing
of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the
prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this."
Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a
fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full
knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results.
"The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they
[prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the
defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't
want
to know something.
"The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner
said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost
mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and
say
we don't have a case."
 
 
"Offshore Eddie"
9/2/2004 5:36:14 AM




"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ch64aq$941@dispatch.concentric.net...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003
"What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said
Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault
cases.
"They never got to know this woman."
Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said
Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility.
"It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing
of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the
prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this."
Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a
fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full
knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results.
"The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they
[prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the
defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't
want
to know something.
"The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner
said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost
mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and
say
we don't have a case."
Agree with Mr. Pozner. But who is this Wendy Murphy who keeps getting
quoted? She sounds like a feminist publicity hound.
 
 
Tim May
9/1/2004 11:03:09 PM


In article <ijyZc.5171$w%6.96@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote:
Agree with Mr. Pozner. But who is this Wendy Murphy who keeps getting
quoted? She sounds like a feminist publicity hound.
Wendy Murphy is a shrill, feminista skank who has been making the
rounds of the Gerald Rivera (Gerry Rivers), Chris Matthews, sorts of
shows since the O.J. trial. She always argues the "if a woman says she
was raped, then she was raped" side.
--Tim May
 
 
" bozak"
9/2/2004 1:22:29 PM




"Tim May" <timcmay@removethis.got.net> wrote in message
news:010920042303099738%timcmay@removethis.got.net...

In article <ijyZc.5171$w%6.96@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Offshore Eddie <eddie@nospam.com> wrote:
Wendy Murphy is a shrill, feminista skank who has been making the
rounds of the Gerald Rivera (Gerry Rivers), Chris Matthews, sorts of
shows since the O.J. trial. She always argues the "if a woman says she
was raped, then she was raped" side.
i thought jane's name was rebecca... :-)
 
 
Michael Snyder
9/2/2004 9:15:27 PM


s_knight8 wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1873003
"What seems very apparent is the prosecution made missteps early on," said
Denver attorney Lisa Wayne, who has defended numerous sexual assault cases.
"They never got to know this woman."
Wendy Murphy, a professor at the New England School of Law, Boston, said
Hurlbert was just trying to shift responsibility.
"It's a different way of blaming the victim, it's the government sluffing of
onto the victim the failure of the justice system," she said. "It's the
prosecutor's job, it's the government's responsibility to pursue this."
Oh, and it's not the accuser's responsibility to HELP THEM?
Defense attorney Larry Pozner said prosecutors and investigators made a
fatal mistake by arresting Bryant and filing the charge before having full
knowledge of the alleged victim's activities and the DNA test results.
"The defense kept pulling in dump trucks full of evidence until they
[prosecutors] drowned in bad facts," he said. "Any time you see the defense
ahead of the prosecution it can only be because the prosecution didn't want
to know something.
"The prosecution said 'Let's not do anything that could hurt us,' " Pozner
said. "That's not a search for justice, it's a conviction-at-any-cost
mentality. Sometimes the bravest thing you do is look at your police and say
we don't have a case."
 
 
"Chas"
9/3/2004 8:12:05 AM


"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
Oh, and it's not the accuser's responsibility to HELP THEM?
Not after their incompetance and negligence put her in mortal hazard.
They did it again, right up to the days before her disgusted withdrawal.
She is going forward on her own- and the Defense had to work to get his
admissions and apology excluded from use in her civil trial.
If there's no admission, why needs exclude it?
Chas
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
9/3/2004 3:16:48 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:37ednZHb3KIj5qXcRVn-sA@comcast.com...

"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
Not after their incompetance and negligence put her in mortal hazard.
Hescuse me, I don't think a subpoena can be ignored just because the
reluctant witness has had to experience the exact same "mortal hazard"
as the accused...
 
 
"Chas"
9/3/2004 9:36:57 AM


"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
Hescuse me, I don't think a subpoena can be ignored just because the
reluctant witness has had to experience the exact same "mortal hazard"
as the accused...
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@

apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
oops.
Chas
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
9/3/2004 6:10:42 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8c-dnQOqMdI_EqXcRVn-gg@comcast.com...

"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@

apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
I agree. See? How easy was that.
 
 
"Chas"
9/3/2004 12:48:45 PM


"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@

apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
I agree. See? How easy was that.
Cool.
So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just
about ready to file, eh?
Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made
available?
Chas
 
 
"E-Man"
9/3/2004 1:57:23 PM




"Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:wLmdna9cLY0KIaXcRVn-qg@comcast.com...

"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@

apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
Cool.
So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just
about ready to file, eh?
Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made
available?
Chas
Chas, there was an apology, no admission. You made that up.
 
 
"Offshore Eddie"
9/4/2004 8:11:51 AM




"Chas" <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:wLmdna9cLY0KIaXcRVn-qg@comcast.com...

"Michael Snyder" <msnyder@redhat.com> wrote
then Kobe should have insisted that his name be cleared, the #@&@

apologize, pay him his damages, and clear his name.
Cool.
So you figure his counterclaim to her complaint in Federal Court is just
about ready to file, eh?
Or do you think he's afraid of having his admission and apology made
available?
Chas, your comments are ... even more insane than mine! And I actually am
insane.
Seriously, get real. As in *realistic*. He has nothing to gain from suing
her. She and her lawyers and supporters will just point out that she's
mentally ill and try to make him look like a meanie. It's largely a he-said
she-said case, so he can't conclusively prove he's innocent. Finally, even
if he did prove he didn't rape her, he wouldn't get much monetary
compensation out of her. It's a no-win situation for him. Her lawyers KNOW
that. That is the whole scheme. Don't tell us you don't know that.
 
 
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