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Translation of Kobe's apology



"Don Tiberone"
9/4/2004 12:23:37 AM


Before I get to that......
I mentioned this last year about her having borderline or histrionic
personality disorder.
Let's see if her behavior matches that of histrionic personality disorder.
http://topcondition.com/images/mymindfield/histrionic_personality_disorder.h
tm
People with this disorder have established a pattern of excessive
drama, and drawing attention to themselves. The behavior is
established in early adulthood. The condition is indicated by a
combination of the following behaviors;
Must be the center of attention.
Check.
"She craves attention like no other. This is the bad kind of attention
that she's going to get," McKinney said.
-Others in this middle-class, Rocky Mountain town of 3,500 - where
bored teens hang out at the Texaco station, then drive off to party
through the night in the hills - describe her as a showoff, "a total
starve for attention," as one ex-boyfriend put it.
"It doesn't matter if (the attention) was good or bad," Josh Putman
said. "It was always good to her."
-The three women related to "CJ" that they spent a wild night partying with
Kobe's accuser at a local Calgary hot spot called the "Outlaw Bar" where the
motto is "Where Being Bad Is Fun." The alleged victim traveled to Calgary
last August to visit her college roommate and possibly escape the media
spotlight after she made allegations of sexual assault against the NBA
superstar.
"She really thrives on attention," said Robinson. "That's what motivated her
to do everything that night. She wanted to be in the spotlight: 'Look at me!
Talk to me!' If a guy was talking to a friend, [she'd say] 'Introduce me!
Who's that?'"
Displays inappropriate sexually provocative behavior.
LOL. Check.
Expressions of emotions that are shallow and unbelievable.
Come across as fakes and phonies.
Check.
"She's a really nice girl, don't get me wrong," said Jessica
Willenborg, a high school classmate of the woman. "But she's more
along the lines of being two-faced with people."
Great emphasis on physical appearance to attract attention.
Theatrical, exaggerates, and uses speech that is vague and lacking in
detail.
Easily swayed by others.
Considers friendships and relationships to be far more intimate than
they are.
Suicidal behavior is often present with this condition and threats
should be taken seriously.
Check.
In an interview to be aired Saturday on CBS's ``48 Hours
Investigates,'' Johnray Strickland confirmed the 19-year-old woman
attempted suicide twice this year.
--
Lindsey McKinney, 18, told the Orange County Register that she was
living with Bryant's accuser in May when the OD occurred and that the
incoherent woman was rushed to a hospital. Several other friends
suggested the overdose may have been an accident.
But "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," McKinney said. "I
think it was just a cry for help.
"I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do
with what [she said] happened that night" with Bryant. Legal experts
said the OD incident, if true, could hurt the accuser's credibility.
--
Stephanie Morris, a friend, told the Daily News that the overdose was
not a secret. "That was her attempt to get attention from her
boyfriend," Morris said.
===
We don't know for sure whether she has borderline or histrionic personality
disorder. But her ex-boyfriend did say she had bi-polar disorder.
--
Strickland became significant in the case after appearing Dec. 18 on NBC's
Today show and talking about his relationship with the 19-year-old Eagle
woman Bryant is charged with sexually assaulting during an encounter June 30
in Edwards.
In that appearance, Strickland said the alleged victim told him she "has a
minor case maybe of being bipolar."
--
According to sources close to the case, those pills included Risperdal, a
powerful antipsychotic prescribed to treat bipolar disorder. "If she is
bipolar and wasn't taking her medication and became manic, it's possible
that she does not have a realistic recollection of her actions on the night
in question," explains clinical psychotherapist Robi Ludwig, Psy.D., a
frequent expert on Court TV. "One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic
state is extreme sexual promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely
possible that Bryant did not think he was raping her, and at the same time,
she believes she was raped."
--
And now this is the defense's claim.
In that July 9 interview, according to Mackey's motion, "Detective Winters
suggested that there was a pattern to the accuser's behavior in that when
she 'attempts or thinks about committing suicide, she would call' her
ex-boyfriend. The accuser apparently agreed with the detective."
Mackey's motion adds, "The pattern of attention-seeking conduct established
by the accuser during the suicide attempts is substantially similar to her
conduct of June 30," the date of the Los Angeles Lakers star's alleged
assault on the 19-year-old woman.
"Proof that the accuser makes herself a victim through purported suicide
attempts in order to gain the attention of her ex-boyfriend without regard
to the harm and worry that causes to other people is essential to the
defense's theory" of the case, Mackey's motion argues.
--
Now consider all of the above. And now read Kobe's statement.
"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter."
And now reread one of the quotes from above.
"One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic state is extreme sexual
promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely possible that Bryant did not
think he was raping her, and at the same time, she believes she was raped."
Translation:
Basically, after reviewing discovery and testimony (like the above) Kobe now
"understands" she's a psycho #@&@
and how she was crying rape to gain the
attention of her boyfriend. But because she's screwed up mentally, she might
actually believe she was raped, therefore he apologizes.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
"Bryan Smith"
9/3/2004 10:40:06 PM


I like it Wesley; nice work.


"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote in message
news:chbg09$dmm@dispatch.concentric.net...

Before I get to that......
I mentioned this last year about her having borderline or histrionic
personality disorder.
Let's see if her behavior matches that of histrionic personality disorder.
http://topcondition.com/images/mymindfield/histrionic_personality_disorder.h
tm
Check.
"She craves attention like no other. This is the bad kind of attention
that she's going to get," McKinney said.
-
Others in this middle-class, Rocky Mountain town of 3,500 - where
bored teens hang out at the Texaco station, then drive off to party
through the night in the hills - describe her as a showoff, "a total
starve for attention," as one ex-boyfriend put it.
"It doesn't matter if (the attention) was good or bad," Josh Putman
said. "It was always good to her."
-
The three women related to "CJ" that they spent a wild night partying with
Kobe's accuser at a local Calgary hot spot called the "Outlaw Bar" where
the
motto is "Where Being Bad Is Fun." The alleged victim traveled to Calgary
last August to visit her college roommate and possibly escape the media
spotlight after she made allegations of sexual assault against the NBA
superstar.
"She really thrives on attention," said Robinson. "That's what motivated
her
to do everything that night. She wanted to be in the spotlight: 'Look at
me!
Talk to me!' If a guy was talking to a friend, [she'd say] 'Introduce me!
Who's that?'"
LOL. Check.
Check.
"She's a really nice girl, don't get me wrong," said Jessica
Willenborg, a high school classmate of the woman. "But she's more
along the lines of being two-faced with people."
Check.
In an interview to be aired Saturday on CBS's ``48 Hours
Investigates,'' Johnray Strickland confirmed the 19-year-old woman
attempted suicide twice this year.
--
Lindsey McKinney, 18, told the Orange County Register that she was
living with Bryant's accuser in May when the OD occurred and that the
incoherent woman was rushed to a hospital. Several other friends
suggested the overdose may have been an accident.
But "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," McKinney said. "I
think it was just a cry for help.
"I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do
with what [she said] happened that night" with Bryant. Legal experts
said the OD incident, if true, could hurt the accuser's credibility.
--
Stephanie Morris, a friend, told the Daily News that the overdose was
not a secret. "That was her attempt to get attention from her
boyfriend," Morris said.
===
We don't know for sure whether she has borderline or histrionic
personality
disorder. But her ex-boyfriend did say she had bi-polar disorder.
--
Strickland became significant in the case after appearing Dec. 18 on NBC's
Today show and talking about his relationship with the 19-year-old Eagle
woman Bryant is charged with sexually assaulting during an encounter June
30
in Edwards.
In that appearance, Strickland said the alleged victim told him she "has a
minor case maybe of being bipolar."
--
According to sources close to the case, those pills included Risperdal, a
powerful antipsychotic prescribed to treat bipolar disorder. "If she is
bipolar and wasn't taking her medication and became manic, it's possible
that she does not have a realistic recollection of her actions on the
night
in question," explains clinical psychotherapist Robi Ludwig, Psy.D., a
frequent expert on Court TV. "One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic
state is extreme sexual promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely
possible that Bryant did not think he was raping her, and at the same
time,
she believes she was raped."
--
And now this is the defense's claim.
In that July 9 interview, according to Mackey's motion, "Detective Winters
suggested that there was a pattern to the accuser's behavior in that when
she 'attempts or thinks about committing suicide, she would call' her
ex-boyfriend. The accuser apparently agreed with the detective."
Mackey's motion adds, "The pattern of attention-seeking conduct
established
by the accuser during the suicide attempts is substantially similar to her
conduct of June 30," the date of the Los Angeles Lakers star's alleged
assault on the 19-year-old woman.
"Proof that the accuser makes herself a victim through purported suicide
attempts in order to gain the attention of her ex-boyfriend without regard
to the harm and worry that causes to other people is essential to the
defense's theory" of the case, Mackey's motion argues.
--
Now consider all of the above. And now read Kobe's statement.
"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same
way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter."
And now reread one of the quotes from above.
"One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic state is extreme sexual
promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely possible that Bryant did
not
think he was raping her, and at the same time, she believes she was
raped."
Translation:
Basically, after reviewing discovery and testimony (like the above) Kobe
now
"understands" she's a psycho #@&@
and how she was crying rape to gain the
attention of her boyfriend. But because she's screwed up mentally, she
might
actually believe she was raped, therefore he apologizes.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
"Offshore Eddie"
9/4/2004 6:10:21 AM


I try to avoid taking sides in this case, but I gotta say this is a superb
translation.


"Don Tiberone" <DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net> wrote in message
news:chbg09$dmm@dispatch.concentric.net...

Before I get to that......
I mentioned this last year about her having borderline or histrionic
personality disorder.
Let's see if her behavior matches that of histrionic personality disorder.
http://topcondition.com/images/mymindfield/histrionic_personality_disorder.h
tm
Check.
"She craves attention like no other. This is the bad kind of attention
that she's going to get," McKinney said.
-
Others in this middle-class, Rocky Mountain town of 3,500 - where
bored teens hang out at the Texaco station, then drive off to party
through the night in the hills - describe her as a showoff, "a total
starve for attention," as one ex-boyfriend put it.
"It doesn't matter if (the attention) was good or bad," Josh Putman
said. "It was always good to her."
-
The three women related to "CJ" that they spent a wild night partying with
Kobe's accuser at a local Calgary hot spot called the "Outlaw Bar" where
the
motto is "Where Being Bad Is Fun." The alleged victim traveled to Calgary
last August to visit her college roommate and possibly escape the media
spotlight after she made allegations of sexual assault against the NBA
superstar.
"She really thrives on attention," said Robinson. "That's what motivated
her
to do everything that night. She wanted to be in the spotlight: 'Look at
me!
Talk to me!' If a guy was talking to a friend, [she'd say] 'Introduce me!
Who's that?'"
LOL. Check.
Check.
"She's a really nice girl, don't get me wrong," said Jessica
Willenborg, a high school classmate of the woman. "But she's more
along the lines of being two-faced with people."
Check.
In an interview to be aired Saturday on CBS's ``48 Hours
Investigates,'' Johnray Strickland confirmed the 19-year-old woman
attempted suicide twice this year.
--
Lindsey McKinney, 18, told the Orange County Register that she was
living with Bryant's accuser in May when the OD occurred and that the
incoherent woman was rushed to a hospital. Several other friends
suggested the overdose may have been an accident.
But "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," McKinney said. "I
think it was just a cry for help.
"I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do
with what [she said] happened that night" with Bryant. Legal experts
said the OD incident, if true, could hurt the accuser's credibility.
--
Stephanie Morris, a friend, told the Daily News that the overdose was
not a secret. "That was her attempt to get attention from her
boyfriend," Morris said.
===
We don't know for sure whether she has borderline or histrionic
personality
disorder. But her ex-boyfriend did say she had bi-polar disorder.
--
Strickland became significant in the case after appearing Dec. 18 on NBC's
Today show and talking about his relationship with the 19-year-old Eagle
woman Bryant is charged with sexually assaulting during an encounter June
30
in Edwards.
In that appearance, Strickland said the alleged victim told him she "has a
minor case maybe of being bipolar."
--
According to sources close to the case, those pills included Risperdal, a
powerful antipsychotic prescribed to treat bipolar disorder. "If she is
bipolar and wasn't taking her medication and became manic, it's possible
that she does not have a realistic recollection of her actions on the
night
in question," explains clinical psychotherapist Robi Ludwig, Psy.D., a
frequent expert on Court TV. "One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic
state is extreme sexual promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely
possible that Bryant did not think he was raping her, and at the same
time,
she believes she was raped."
--
And now this is the defense's claim.
In that July 9 interview, according to Mackey's motion, "Detective Winters
suggested that there was a pattern to the accuser's behavior in that when
she 'attempts or thinks about committing suicide, she would call' her
ex-boyfriend. The accuser apparently agreed with the detective."
Mackey's motion adds, "The pattern of attention-seeking conduct
established
by the accuser during the suicide attempts is substantially similar to her
conduct of June 30," the date of the Los Angeles Lakers star's alleged
assault on the 19-year-old woman.
"Proof that the accuser makes herself a victim through purported suicide
attempts in order to gain the attention of her ex-boyfriend without regard
to the harm and worry that causes to other people is essential to the
defense's theory" of the case, Mackey's motion argues.
--
Now consider all of the above. And now read Kobe's statement.
"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same
way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter."
And now reread one of the quotes from above.
"One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic state is extreme sexual
promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely possible that Bryant did
not
think he was raping her, and at the same time, she believes she was
raped."
Translation:
Basically, after reviewing discovery and testimony (like the above) Kobe
now
"understands" she's a psycho #@&@
and how she was crying rape to gain the
attention of her boyfriend. But because she's screwed up mentally, she
might
actually believe she was raped, therefore he apologizes.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/4/2004 9:10:45 AM


Don Tiberone wrote:
Before I get to that......
I mentioned this last year about her having borderline or
histrionic personality disorder.
Can people with that disorder be raped or not?
 
 
"Michael Snyder"
9/4/2004 3:26:37 PM




"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message
news:0Uk_c.8$0P5.2410@news.uswest.net...

Don Tiberone wrote:
Can people with that disorder be raped or not?
Yes. Can people with S.O.Damocles disorder read beyond the first sentence
of a post?
Or not?
 
 
Sports Fan
9/4/2004 12:23:52 PM


On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 09:10:45 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
wrote:
Don Tiberone wrote:
Can people with that disorder be raped or not?
Even your $5 hooker mom can be raped.
But the problem is, when the skank sets this thing up and the cries
rape, it is not.
 
 
George Evans
9/4/2004 7:13:58 PM


Well thought out and convincing work. Hope it helps to settle us all down.
in article chbg09$dmm@dispatch.concentric.net, Don Tiberone at
DonTiberoneNOSPAM@SKP.net wrote on 9/3/04 9:23 PM:
Before I get to that......
I mentioned this last year about her having borderline or histrionic
personality disorder.
Let's see if her behavior matches that of histrionic personality disorder.
http://topcondition.com/images/mymindfield/histrionic_personality_disorder.h
tm
Check.
"She craves attention like no other. This is the bad kind of attention
that she's going to get," McKinney said.
-
Others in this middle-class, Rocky Mountain town of 3,500 - where
bored teens hang out at the Texaco station, then drive off to party
through the night in the hills - describe her as a showoff, "a total
starve for attention," as one ex-boyfriend put it.
"It doesn't matter if (the attention) was good or bad," Josh Putman
said. "It was always good to her."
-
The three women related to "CJ" that they spent a wild night partying with
Kobe's accuser at a local Calgary hot spot called the "Outlaw Bar" where the
motto is "Where Being Bad Is Fun." The alleged victim traveled to Calgary
last August to visit her college roommate and possibly escape the media
spotlight after she made allegations of sexual assault against the NBA
superstar.
"She really thrives on attention," said Robinson. "That's what motivated her
to do everything that night. She wanted to be in the spotlight: 'Look at me!
Talk to me!' If a guy was talking to a friend, [she'd say] 'Introduce me!
Who's that?'"
LOL. Check.
Check.
"She's a really nice girl, don't get me wrong," said Jessica
Willenborg, a high school classmate of the woman. "But she's more
along the lines of being two-faced with people."
Check.
In an interview to be aired Saturday on CBS's ``48 Hours
Investigates,'' Johnray Strickland confirmed the 19-year-old woman
attempted suicide twice this year.
--
Lindsey McKinney, 18, told the Orange County Register that she was
living with Bryant's accuser in May when the OD occurred and that the
incoherent woman was rushed to a hospital. Several other friends
suggested the overdose may have been an accident.
But "I don't think it was accidental. I was there," McKinney said. "I
think it was just a cry for help.
"I think the things that happened to her in the past had a lot to do
with what [she said] happened that night" with Bryant. Legal experts
said the OD incident, if true, could hurt the accuser's credibility.
--
Stephanie Morris, a friend, told the Daily News that the overdose was
not a secret. "That was her attempt to get attention from her
boyfriend," Morris said.
===
We don't know for sure whether she has borderline or histrionic personality
disorder. But her ex-boyfriend did say she had bi-polar disorder.
--
Strickland became significant in the case after appearing Dec. 18 on NBC's
Today show and talking about his relationship with the 19-year-old Eagle
woman Bryant is charged with sexually assaulting during an encounter June 30
in Edwards.
In that appearance, Strickland said the alleged victim told him she "has a
minor case maybe of being bipolar."
--
According to sources close to the case, those pills included Risperdal, a
powerful antipsychotic prescribed to treat bipolar disorder. "If she is
bipolar and wasn't taking her medication and became manic, it's possible
that she does not have a realistic recollection of her actions on the night
in question," explains clinical psychotherapist Robi Ludwig, Psy.D., a
frequent expert on Court TV. "One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic
state is extreme sexual promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely
possible that Bryant did not think he was raping her, and at the same time,
she believes she was raped."
--
And now this is the defense's claim.
In that July 9 interview, according to Mackey's motion, "Detective Winters
suggested that there was a pattern to the accuser's behavior in that when
she 'attempts or thinks about committing suicide, she would call' her
ex-boyfriend. The accuser apparently agreed with the detective."
Mackey's motion adds, "The pattern of attention-seeking conduct established
by the accuser during the suicide attempts is substantially similar to her
conduct of June 30," the date of the Los Angeles Lakers star's alleged
assault on the 19-year-old woman.
"Proof that the accuser makes herself a victim through purported suicide
attempts in order to gain the attention of her ex-boyfriend without regard
to the harm and worry that causes to other people is essential to the
defense's theory" of the case, Mackey's motion argues.
--
Now consider all of the above. And now read Kobe's statement.
"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I
recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way
I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and
even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did
not consent to this encounter."
And now reread one of the quotes from above.
"One symptom of a bipolar patient in a manic state is extreme sexual
promiscuity and hypersexuality. It is entirely possible that Bryant did not
think he was raping her, and at the same time, she believes she was raped."
Translation:
Basically, after reviewing discovery and testimony (like the above) Kobe now
"understands" she's a psycho #@&@
and how she was crying rape to gain the
attention of her boyfriend. But because she's screwed up mentally, she might
actually believe she was raped, therefore he apologizes.
--
"The Federal Reserve(Banks) are one of the most corrupt institutions the
world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who
does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
- Congressman Louis McFadden
 
 
George Evans
9/5/2004 12:32:56 PM


in article 0Uk_c.8$0P5.2410@news.uswest.net, S. O. Damocles at so@damocl.es
wrote on 9/4/04 8:10 AM:
Don Tiberone wrote:
Can people with that disorder be raped or not?
No they can't. They have a little HPD tattooed on their back. That's why
Kobe stopped.
George Evans
 
 
George Evans
9/5/2004 12:37:47 PM


in article N8l_c.12018$54.167395@typhoon.sonic.net, Michael Snyder at
msnyder@redhat.com wrote on 9/4/04 8:26 AM:


"S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote in message
news:0Uk_c.8$0P5.2410@news.uswest.net...

Yes. Can people with S.O.Damocles disorder read beyond the first sentence of
a post? Or not?
Apparently not, but they *can* be raped.
George Evans
 
 
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