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"News Server"
9/5/2004 1:06:55 AM


Four SEALs Are Charged With Abuse Of Prisoners
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 4, 2004; Page A04
The Navy said yesterday it charged four of its SEALs with abusing detainees
in Iraq, marking the first time that elite Special Operations troops have
been accused of such offenses in the expanding series of probes into the
U.S. military's mistreatment of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The charges against the four sailors, which include assault, maltreatment of
detainees and making false statements to investigators, arise from incidents
between October 2003 and April of this year, the Navy said. Officials
declined to release the names of those charged, saying they were being
withheld because of the sensitive nature of the sailors' work, which can
take them behind enemy lines on reconnaissance and sabotage missions.
--
"We are going to fight them and impose our will
on them and we will capture or, if necessary, kill
them until we have imposed law and order upon
this country,"
-- US Viceroy Paul Bremer,
how U$A is going to win 'hearts and minds'
of the subjugated people of Iraq
 
 
omega@firstandlast.com (omega)
9/5/2004 2:32:10 PM


In article <JZy_c.58$wW3.78245@news.uswest.net>, "News Server" <netnews@newsserver.org> wrote:
Four SEALs Are Charged With Abuse Of Prisoners
By Thomas E. Ricks
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, September 4, 2004; Page A04
The Navy said yesterday it charged four of its SEALs with abusing detainees
in Iraq, marking the first time that elite Special Operations troops have
been accused of such offenses in the expanding series of probes into the
U.S. military's mistreatment of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The charges against the four sailors, which include assault, maltreatment of
detainees and making false statements to investigators, arise from incidents
between October 2003 and April of this year, the Navy said. Officials
declined to release the names of those charged, saying they were being
withheld because of the sensitive nature of the sailors' work, which can
take them behind enemy lines on reconnaissance and sabotage missions.
Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to contribute.
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/5/2004 10:08:46 AM


omega wrote:
In article <JZy_c.58$wW3.78245@news.uswest.net>, "News
Server" <netnews@newsserver.org> wrote:
Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to
contribute.
Sending $$ to terrorists and criminals is against the Patriot Act, moron.
 
 
Carter Lee
9/5/2004 2:58:59 PM


S. O. Damocles wrote:
Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to
contribute.
Sending $$ to terrorists and criminals is against the Patriot Act, moron.
The Patroit Act doesn't apply to me, so can I have the address of
the defence fund?
Carter
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/5/2004 11:42:04 AM


Carter Lee wrote:
S. O. Damocles wrote:
Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to
contribute.
The Patroit Act doesn't apply to me,
Sure it does, U$ law applies to everyone, anywhere in the world.
Just ask John Asscrack.
so can I have the
address of the defence fund?
Call them -- (866) 483-5137
Carter
 
 
omega1@firstandlast.com (omega)
9/5/2004 8:16:33 PM


In article <rQG_c.16$9n6.1448@news.uswest.net>, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
omega wrote:
Sending $$ to terrorists and criminals is against the Patriot Act, moron.
Well numbnuts, apparently "innocent until proven guilty" does not apply in
your socialist left world. Were you born stupid, or did you have to work at
it?
 
 
Steven James Forsberg
9/5/2004 9:10:52 PM


:>>Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to
:>>contribute.
:>
:>
:> Sending $$ to terrorists and criminals is against the Patriot Act, moron.
: The Patroit Act doesn't apply to me, so can I have the address of
: the defence fund?
Doesn't apply to you? You doubt the reach of the U.S.? Why, we
ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
regards,
-----------------------------------------------
sjforsbe@bayou.uh.edu
 
 
Carter Lee
9/5/2004 7:20:50 PM


S. O. Damocles wrote:
Carter Lee wrote:
Sure it does, U$ law applies to everyone, anywhere in the world.
I hate to burst your yankee bubble but no it does not.
Call them -- (866) 483-5137
Thanks but I doubt that the FBI is conducting anybody's defence.
Carter
 
 
Carter Lee
9/5/2004 7:22:48 PM


Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:>>Do you have the address of their defense fund? I'd like to
:>>contribute.
:>
:>
:> Sending $$ to terrorists and criminals is against the Patriot Act, moron.
: The Patroit Act doesn't apply to me, so can I have the address of
: the defence fund?
Doesn't apply to you? You doubt the reach of the U.S.?
No, I know it.
Why, we
ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
Carter
 
 
"S. O. Damocles"
9/5/2004 6:56:36 PM


omega wrote:
In article <rQG_c.16$9n6.1448@news.uswest.net>, "S. O.
Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
Well numbnuts, apparently "innocent until proven guilty"
does not apply in your socialist left world.
It's fascist over here in the U$$A, through and through.
So tell your fairy tale to all the innocents held in Guantanamo,
and to the families of the 10,000s of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
who were slaughtered by the U$$A.
 
 
Fred J. McCall
9/6/2004 5:14:03 AM


Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:>
:> Why, we
:> ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
:> there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
::You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
So you're dead? Well, from the neck up I can believe....
 
 
Carter Lee
9/6/2004 11:33:25 AM


Fred J. McCall wrote:
Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:>
:> Why, we
:> ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
:> there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
:
:You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
So you're dead?
Nope.
Well, from the neck up I can believe....
What you believe is obviously based on no evidence.
Carter
 
 
omega1@firstandlast.com (omega)
9/6/2004 2:00:37 PM


In article <hzO_c.69$9n6.7573@news.uswest.net>, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es> wrote:
omega wrote:
It's fascist over here in the U$$A, through and through.
So tell your fairy tale to all the innocents held in Guantanamo,
and to the families of the 10,000s of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
who were slaughtered by the U$$A.
#@($ happens
 
 
Carter Lee
9/6/2004 11:38:16 AM


S. O. Damocles wrote:
omega wrote:
Well numbnuts, apparently "innocent until proven guilty"
does not apply in your socialist left world.
It's fascist over here in the U$$A, through and through.
Is that a fact?
So tell your fairy tale to all the innocents held in Guantanamo,
Sure, when you identify the innocents.
and to the families of the 10,000s of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
who were slaughtered by the U$$A.
Yes when you identify those families who didn't have members
slaughtered by the Hussein regime.
Carter
 
 
Fred J. McCall
9/6/2004 4:42:25 PM


Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:>
:> :Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:> :>
:> :> Why, we
:> :> ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
:> :> there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
:> :
:> :You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
:>
:> So you're dead?
::Nope.
:: Well, from the neck up I can believe....
::What you believe is obviously based on no evidence.
See above. The simple inability to actually quote even halfway
properly in a News article is evidence enough for me.
Now crawl back under your little bridge....
 
 
Carter Lee
9/6/2004 2:46:23 PM


Fred J. McCall wrote:
Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:>
:> :Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:> :>
:> :> Why, we
:> :> ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
:> :> there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
:> :
:> :You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
:>
:> So you're dead?
:
:Nope.
:
: Well, from the neck up I can believe....
:
:What you believe is obviously based on no evidence.
See above.
What? Where?
The simple inability to actually quote even halfway
properly in a News article is evidence enough for me.
WTF are you babbling about?
Now crawl back under your little bridge....
What for, to keep you company?
Carter
 
 
"Hü©k Hö§hïmötö !"
9/6/2004 5:39:12 PM


You fruitcakes never cease to amaze!
 
 
Fred J. McCall
9/6/2004 11:06:31 PM


Thanks for the confirmation.
<plonk>
Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:>
:> :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> :> Carter Lee <perardua@adastra.ca> wrote:
:> :>
:> :> :Steven James Forsberg wrote:
:> :> :>
:> :> :> Why, we
:> :> :> ought to have you kidnapped and tossed in jail just for *suggesting* that
:> :> :> there is somewhere we're not allowed. ;-)
:> :> :
:> :> :You can't, I'm out of reach. :
)
:> :>
:> :> So you're dead?
:> :
:> :Nope.
:> :
:> : Well, from the neck up I can believe....
:> :
:> :What you believe is obviously based on no evidence.
:>
:> See above.
::What? Where?
:: The simple inability to actually quote even halfway
:> properly in a News article is evidence enough for me.
::WTF are you babbling about?
:>
:> Now crawl back under your little bridge....
::What for, to keep you company?
::Carter
 
 
Carter Lee
9/6/2004 9:03:12 PM


Fred J. McCall wrote:
Thanks for the confirmation.
<plonk>
Bye Fred, it's been fun.
Carter
 
 
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9/7/2004 12:43:19 PM


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