|
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29972.htm
September 6, 2004 -- Kobe Bryant did not want to apologize to the Colorado
woman who accused him of raping her in his hotel room, according to a former
Laker teammate.
"Kobe fought tooth and nail. He really didn't want to concede anything, but
his lawyers and some family members begged him to do whatever to make it
[the rape charge] go away," the unidentified friend told Newsweek.
The written apology, which was made public, was issued after a tense
11th-hour hearing in Eagle, Colo., and was pivotal in getting authorities to
drop the charge.
The apology stated that while the NBA All-Star believed that sex between him
and the then-19-year-old hotel employee was consensual, "I now understand
how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can
only imagine the pain she has had to endure," Bryant wrote.
The accuser and her lawyers told the judge in the closed-door hearing
Wednesday that she was unable to go forward with the criminal trial because
of the "agony" she has been put through.
That included the court's accidental release of her name on the state Web
site last September and the inadvertent release of a confidential report on
her sexual history.
Bryant still faces a civil lawsuit. Most experts believe that the hoopster
and his accuser will reach a financial settlement before a trial.
|
| |
| |
s_knight8 wrote:
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29972.htm
September 6, 2004 -- Kobe Bryant did not want to apologize
to the Colorado woman who accused him of raping her in his
hotel room, according to a former Laker teammate.
"Kobe fought tooth and nail. He really didn't want to
concede anything, but his lawyers and some family members
begged him to do whatever to make it [the rape charge] go
away," the unidentified friend told Newsweek.
Yep, even if it meant LYING.
No surprise that a rapist would lie to avoid a 20 year prison sentence.
|
| |
| |
"s_knight8" <s_knight8nospam@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:chi81t$1of@dispatch.concentric.net...
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29972.htm
September 6, 2004 -- Kobe Bryant did not want to apologize to the Colorado
woman who accused him of raping her in his hotel room, according to a former
Laker teammate.
"Kobe fought tooth and nail. He really didn't want to concede anything, but
his lawyers and some family members begged him to do whatever to make it
[the rape charge] go away," the unidentified friend told Newsweek.
Sounds like Kobe is the one with the right instincts. If his lawyers would
have been better negotiators, they could have gotten around the statement.
Alex
|
| |
| |
gosh, I'm an expert now, since I predicted a $$$ $ettlement long ago! I
have NO regard for him, but she's too traumatized to do a criminal trial,
but strong enough for a civil trial? What a load of horse hockey!
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29972.htm
September 6, 2004 -- Kobe Bryant did not want to apologize to the Colorado
woman who accused him of raping her in his hotel room, according to a
former
Laker teammate.
"Kobe fought tooth and nail. He really didn't want to concede anything,
but
his lawyers and some family members begged him to do whatever to make it
[the rape charge] go away," the unidentified friend told Newsweek.
The written apology, which was made public, was issued after a tense
11th-hour hearing in Eagle, Colo., and was pivotal in getting authorities
to
drop the charge.
The apology stated that while the NBA All-Star believed that sex between
him
and the then-19-year-old hotel employee was consensual, "I now understand
how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can
only imagine the pain she has had to endure," Bryant wrote.
The accuser and her lawyers told the judge in the closed-door hearing
Wednesday that she was unable to go forward with the criminal trial
because
of the "agony" she has been put through.
That included the court's accidental release of her name on the state Web
site last September and the inadvertent release of a confidential report
on
her sexual history.
Bryant still faces a civil lawsuit. Most experts believe that the hoopster
and his accuser will reach a financial settlement before a trial.
|
| |
| |
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/29972.htm
September 6, 2004 -- Kobe Bryant did not want to apologize to the Colorado
woman who accused him of raping her in his hotel room, according to a
former
Laker teammate.
"Kobe fought tooth and nail. He really didn't want to concede anything,
but
his lawyers and some family members begged him to do whatever to make it
[the rape charge] go away," the unidentified friend told Newsweek.
The written apology, which was made public, was issued after a tense
11th-hour hearing in Eagle, Colo., and was pivotal in getting authorities
to
drop the charge.
The apology stated that while the NBA All-Star believed that sex between
him
and the then-19-year-old hotel employee was consensual, "I now understand
how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can
only imagine the pain she has had to endure," Bryant wrote.
Yeah -- just like I can only imagine Santa Claus, 'cause I'm for sure
never gonna meet him in the real world.
The accuser and her lawyers told the judge in the closed-door hearing
Wednesday that she was unable to go forward with the criminal trial
because
of the "agony" she has been put through.
That included the court's accidental release of her name on the state Web
site last September
.... long after everyone in the world knew what it was anyway...
and the inadvertent release of a confidential report on
her sexual history.
Which SHOULD have come out at trial anyway.
Bryant still faces a civil lawsuit.
.... which apparently she is still able to proceed with, despite "the agony".
Most experts believe that the hoopster
and his accuser will reach a financial settlement before a trial.
Yeah -- $1 and "other considerations".
|
| |
| |
s_knight8 wrote:
Yep, even if it meant LYING.
So the @$#* what?
No surprise that a rapist would lie to avoid a 20 year prison sentence.
As opposed to a non-rapist?
|
| |
| |
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004 12:23:08 -0600, "S. O. Damocles" <so@damocl.es>
wrote:
s_knight8 wrote:
Yep, even if it meant LYING.
Like the skank.
No surprise that a rapist would lie to avoid a 20 year prison sentence.
Like the skank who lied tried to blackmail him money?
You're still a dumbass.
Everyone sees that the apology is part of the deal for the skank to drop
the criminal case and run after the real thing that she was after from
the get go, money, but this seems to be rocket science for you.
|
| |
| |
<crosem@earthlink.net> wrote in news:424%c.8459$Wv5.6693
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
she's too traumatized to do a criminal trial,
but strong enough for a civil trial? What a load of horse hockey!
That's putting it mildly.
--Robert
--
***
My Head Is Filled with Yeast
http://www.livejournal.com/users/spimby/
|
| |
| |
<crosem@earthlink.net> wrote in news:424%c.8459$Wv5.6693
@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
That's putting it mildly.
Let me get this straight: everybody on the internet can obviously see that
there never will be a civil trial, that regardless of the actual facts Mr.
Bryant will reach a quick settlement and make it all go away.
But you think her attorneys have never, ever mentioned this fact to her, so
she must really be strong enough for a civil trial (that will never happen)
if she pursues a civil case.
I knew many of you have a low opinion of Ms. Faber, I had no idea your
expertise extended to a critical assessment of her legal team.
Or, you know, maybe she knows there won't be a civil trial, so she doesn't
have to be "strong" enough for anything other than to wait for her lawyers
to call with an offer.
Bo Raxo
|
| |
| |
"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in
news:Jqp%c.9918$w%6.5533@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
Let me get this straight: everybody on the internet can obviously see
that there never will be a civil trial, that regardless of the actual
facts Mr. Bryant will reach a quick settlement and make it all go
away.
But you think her attorneys have never, ever mentioned this fact to
her, so she must really be strong enough for a civil trial (that will
never happen) if she pursues a civil case.
No, Bo, I just don't believe any of this "strong enough" horse#@($ for a
second. You who had to be "strong enough," way stronger than this young
woman was ever going to have to be, even if she was raped? Those people
who that crazy asshole shot on the train on Long Island a decade or so
ago, who then had to face his shenanigans in court when he represented
himelf and cross-examined them. As I remember, they did it, anyway.
As far as I'm concerned, if someone is a legitimate victim of crime, they
have a responsibility to bring charges and follow through with them, most
especially after having set the ball rolling, legally. You definitely
don't drop the @$#* out on the eve of trial. At this point, I'm left with
two options regarding Ms. Faber: either she really is the gold digger
some have maintained she had to be from the get-go, or she's either
unbelievably irresponsible, a coward, or both.
Because, and let me make this clear, once and for all: I don't think rape
is special, as far as violent crime goes. I don't think rape victims are
special, in that regard. I don't believe at all that there's some unique
personal violation that goes with rape that gives victims or "alleged
victims" an out on their own responsibilities, or should cause the
balance our system has built in toward defendants to tip the other way,
even slightly. Too many rape victims and other victims and witnesses of
violent assaults suck it up every year and see the course through for me
to ever believe that.
--Robert
--
***
My Head Is Filled with Yeast
http://www.livejournal.com/users/spimby/
|
| |
| |
"Bo Raxo" <invasions_r_us@thepentagon.removethis.com> wrote in
news:Jqp%c.9918$w%6.5533@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
No, Bo, I just don't believe any of this "strong enough" horse#@($ for a
second. You who had to be "strong enough," way stronger than this young
woman was ever going to have to be, even if she was raped? Those people
who that crazy asshole shot on the train on Long Island a decade or so
ago, who then had to face his shenanigans in court when he represented
himelf and cross-examined them. As I remember, they did it, anyway.
Rape is different from being shot. One carries a lot of shame for the
victim, the other does not. If this is really the kind of comparison
you're making in your mind, that facing Colin Ferguson would be the same as
facing the man who raped you, I'd be really amazed.
Also, Ferguson's victims weren't getting death threats, weren't getting
their home address and phone number leaked by the court multiple times.
What a nutty comparison.
As far as I'm concerned, if someone is a legitimate victim of crime, they
have a responsibility to bring charges and follow through with them, most
especially after having set the ball rolling, legally. You definitely
don't drop the @$#* out on the eve of trial. At this point, I'm left with
two options regarding Ms. Faber: either she really is the gold digger
some have maintained she had to be from the get-go, or she's either
unbelievably irresponsible, a coward, or both.
Could be either. Or it could be that all of the attention, the death
threats, being unable to just hold a waitress job because of the notoriety,
all of the basketball fans who reviled her, seeing her name dragged all over
the internet every day and called the lowest things possible...maybe that
bothered her.
And maybe that's what is different about this and the average victim of a
crime bringing charges and following through.
Because, and let me make this clear, once and for all: I don't think rape
is special, as far as violent crime goes. I don't think rape victims are
special, in that regard. I don't believe at all that there's some unique
personal violation that goes with rape that gives victims or "alleged
victims" an out on their own responsibilities, or should cause the
balance our system has built in toward defendants to tip the other way,
even slightly.
You are astoundingly full of #@($. Rape is special: ask yourself, if you
had a choice, would you rather be brutally beaten, or raped by some guy?
I'd take the beating, I think most people would.
Being raped carries shame. That's why a man who is raped in prison won't
talk about it even after he gets out - that's why you don't see a raft of
lawsuits against prisons over it.
If you were raped, would you perfer that your friends didn't know? Of
course.
If you were beaten, would you tell them yourselves and feel righteous
indignation? OF course.
Too many rape victims and other victims and witnesses of
violent assaults suck it up every year and see the course through for me
to ever believe that.
People are tough. Some, anyway. Tens of thousands survived the Nazi
concentration camps - doesn't mean the conditions were survivable by the
average person.
Bo Raxo
|
| |
| |
|
