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Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently faces.
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 +0000, FernDog wrote:
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently faces.
Wow, what a load of vitriolic horse#@($. Can you manage one thought without trying to say that everyone else *but* the accused is guilty of some evil? Seriously, if you have a degree, I think I should have the right to sue the college that *educated* you. They have failed miserably in teachin you the ability to converse, think or act in a reasonable manner, and as such, released yet another goober into society. Please, do tell, why you feel this alleged rape affects you in any meaningful way. It doesn't. It isn't your business, and your personal anger towards the world aside - you're wasting bandwidth. BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on its own. freecode
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Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
I was going to say her dad, but he knows the truth. He will never admit it out loud. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it is most likely a duck. Change the word lier for duck and you have Ms. Faber.
Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently faces.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on its own. freecode
But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 +0000, GG wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote: But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
You really can't read can you? Just so it is clear to you: "This case has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are directly involved. Now how about letting the Justice system work itself out?" Wake up - this case doesn't affect you unless you are Kobe or the accuser. It hasn't affected you personally, now has it? Except maybe you have nothing of real value to speak about, so harping on something that has nothing to do with you seems to be your thing. My outrage is at the news media (Let's see FOX, MSNBC, CNN ,etc.) who run this case 24 hours a day and the dopes who think that their mysogyny, personal extremism in elevating trivial crap and faux outrage have any meaning or are newsworthy when they aren't. The real truth is that the media has sold out the American people with lies and is avoiding the real issues that matter with total horse#@($. That's the outrage - the idiot media in their race to an uneducated and deceived public. Have a nice night, but stop the whining over total bull#@($. freecode
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That's probably pretty accurate. It's a gender power war thing again.. women would like to see a world where their word would be taken as fact regarding rape, and men would like to see a world where nobody would believe a woman in a rape case at all, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The thing that bothers me are the so-called 'rape shield laws' which should be repealed. If someone gets raped the public should be able to scrutinize her as deeply as if she were robbed or burgled or assaulted. Rape ain't a special case. And the problem with men is that they've been lazy in standing up for themselves and women have trampled on their rights for the past 30 years. Men: time to fight back!
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't
believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he
currently
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women would like to see a world where their word would be taken as fact regarding rape
Women pretty much have realized this power today in the US. Any woman can accuse any guy who doesn't have a bullet proof alibi and immediately get him arrested and indicted. It's a win-win situation for both women who enjoy the power, the guy getting screwed and lawyers who enjoy a hearty feast paid for by the accused. I mean, can you imagine being a weakling with the power to point a finger and make an accusation resulting in the destruction of a human being via the power of the state? The feeling must be comperable to that of a mob boss that orders a hit on someone.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 GMT, ginnyginny@cs.com (GG) wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote: But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
Not to mention on bumper stickers, T-Shirts, ...etc with racist or rude text/graphics of Kobe.
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 GMT, "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote:
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers).
You accurately described, tjab, chas, John Clune, Mark Hulbert, and few of the other feminist douche bags that were filling these newsgroups with their bull#@($.
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Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.09.07.01.02.32.997376@yahoo.com>...
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 +0000, FernDog wrote: Wow, what a load of vitriolic horse#@($. Can you manage one thought without trying to say that everyone else *but* the accused is guilty of some evil? Seriously, if you have a degree, I think I should have the right to sue the college that *educated* you.
How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat? They have failed miserably
in teachin you the ability to converse, think or act in a reasonable manner, and as such, released yet another goober into society. Please, do tell, why you feel this alleged rape affects you in any meaningful way. It doesn't. It isn't your business, and your personal anger towards the world aside - you're wasting bandwidth.
You're wasting our oxygen dyke.
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on its own.
You're too stupid to understand the ramifications of this case and the precedent that it sets. In a country where males from the ages of 5 to 100 have had false allegatons made against them EVERY man must be concerned with this case. No female should ever be permitted to hide behind unconstitutional rape shield laws and had better understand that when you make a charge that will ruin a man's life you had better be able to prove it. Your past conduct IS relevant. Your credibility IS relevant. What you believe in your mind IS NOT relevant since females often hold delusionary and irrational beliefs. But this Faber slut was motivated by pure malicious greed and like a lot of women an self centered indifference to a man's suffering.
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On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:55:53 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 GMT, ginnyginny@cs.com (GG) wrote: Not to mention on bumper stickers, T-Shirts, ...etc with racist or rude text/graphics of Kobe.
Gee... did you make money off selling such things? I have never seen anything of that type, but maybe you promote it? Doesn't happen here. freecode
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:48 -0700, Tim Alciere wrote:
Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.09.07.01.02.32.997376@yahoo.com>... How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat?
Ahh, no real answers I see. Just another 12 year old insult. Waste of bandwidth.
They have failed miserably You're wasting our oxygen dyke.
Your dumber than I thought. I am married man, and you are so childish that I doubt you will ever be married.
You're too stupid to understand the ramifications of this case and the precedent that it sets. In a country where males from the ages of 5 to 100 have had false allegatons made against them EVERY man must be concerned with this case. No female should ever be permitted to hide behind unconstitutional rape shield laws and had better understand that when you make a charge that will ruin a man's life you had better be able to prove it. Your past conduct IS relevant. Your credibility IS relevant. What you believe in your mind IS NOT relevant since females often hold delusionary and irrational beliefs. But this Faber slut was motivated by pure malicious greed and like a lot of women an self centered indifference to a man's suffering.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:20:49 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:55:53 -0700, Sports Fan wrote: Gee... did you make money off selling such things? I have never seen anything of that type, but maybe you promote it? Doesn't happen here.
You are not following the case, are you? http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/ And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of "promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:20:49 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote: You are not following the case, are you?
Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/ And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of "promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me a'tall. Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life. Must be better than thinking about reality for you. freecode
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Free Code wrote:
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the alleged rape.
I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the Bryant/Faber case. And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing a baseless case. -- Gary Collard SABR-L Moderator gmcollard@yahoo.com "I like reading electronic books on my Pocket PC so much that I never carry paper books anymore. The downside is that, when camping, you can only use an e-book for emergency toilet paper once." -- Phil Garding
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Free Code wrote: I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the Bryant/Faber case.
No, you're talking about the Plaintiff. There is no "alleged vcitim" now that all charges were dropped. And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to
the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing a baseless case. -- Gary Collard SABR-L Moderator gmcollard@yahoo.com "I like reading electronic books on my Pocket PC so much that I never carry paper books anymore. The downside is that, when camping, you can only use an e-book for emergency toilet paper once." -- Phil Garding
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Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message news:<5qjqj011n9c3202uckjoqcbgovfsvke88e@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 GMT, "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote:
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I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the case. They are those groupies hoping in their fog that their blind loyalty to an extremely rich, talented basketball player will somehow touch them favorably. i don't care who she had sex with before the event (and anyone with a half a brain capable of critical thinking knows that the sex after the alleged attack was a vicious lie, invented to prevent the conviction of the gravy train known as Kobe), nor her lifestyle: What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole, ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on his t-shirt. in the space of about 5 minutes. This was not a seduction, this was not consensual. (Even on a bad day, the most dickless of you would consider more than a five minute seduction) it was violent and bloody rape. I used to be a big fan of Kobe: the only thing on the Laker's team I could look at with any respect. And now I feel worse then disrespect: I feel fear, and pray to god that no man ever does to his daughter what he has done. "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message news:<GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently faces.
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I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the case.
I am an exception to your rule since I don't like sports. The facts of the case have always indicated consensual sex (no screaming, fighting, zippo). Her underlying intentions to extort money from Kobe are pretty clear, especially now. Why else would she demand his public apology in return for her non-participation in the criminal case? Think civil court and of all the free $$$ that she and her lawyers are after. I feel that she was likely advised to drop the charges and secure an apology that will clearly be used in civil court.
What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole, ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on his t-shirt. it was violent and bloody rape.
Look how your mind deceives you with your bloody asshole imagery. It never happened, the fact is that there was nothing more than normal blood trace evidence barely even visible. Kate Faber's bung was carefully examined and there were no visible cuts or abrasions.
I used to be a big fan of Kobe: the only thing on the Laker's team I could look at with any respect. And now I feel worse then disrespect: I feel fear, and pray to god that no man ever does to his daughter what he has done.
You should teach your daughter that proper women 1) do not go into a guy's room and 2) suck face with a stranger. Then teach her what women around the world already know by instinct which is to scream if they are attacked!
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On 7 Sep 2004 09:51:41 -0700, finngirl@gmail.com (kayp) wrote:
I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the case.
that not true. I dont follow sports very much and i certainly dont worship celebrities. And i'm not convinced he raped her. Maybe he did. Maybe he didnt. you're every bit as prejudiced as those you accused. nice job.
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<snip>> > How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat?
Ahh, no real answers I see. Just another 12 year old insult. Waste of bandwidth. Your dumber than I thought. I am married man, and you are so childish that I doubt you will ever be married.
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erinperry30 wrote
">Sorry to say, freecode, you'll never get through to these neanderthals. They'll pounce on anyone who doesn't call the alleged victim a whore or praise Kobe in some way. Making intelligent statements like the ones you have made only get name calling & other childish insults." Kinda reminds one of OJ's day in popular opinion court, dont it ?? -------- have a GREAT day !!!! Solar
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote: Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all. Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me a'tall. Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life. Must be better than thinking about reality for you. freecode
Dude, your points are sailing so far over these guys heads, they probably think they are proving you wrong by missing the point completely.
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GG wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote: But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
Kobe is a rapist.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote: Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all.
Then why argue about it, let alone accusing others of promoting things that didn't happen? Instead of assuming stuff and making up things, get your facts straight. http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/ And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car. http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of "promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me a'tall.
This is not about YOUR life, and not even about you. Learn how to read properly and then follow the thread. In the above you were whining about the "victim's privacy", while you were asked if you have a problem with Kobe's own privacy and the violations of his civil rights, and the obvious prejudice against him. You claimed that people are making this up, and when faced with facts, you claimed that you should not be worried because it doesn't effect YOUR life. What has that got to do with the discussion? You obviously think that the universe revolves around you. You seem to be having problems reading and following discussions. By your own admission, you haven't been paying attention to the case, yet you seem to think that others will not call your bull#@($ about the case when you post it.
Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life.
I am worried about every innocent man, and the last thing that I can stand is someone's rights being violated. The same people who are very comfortable with that, are whining about the accuser's privacy and other rights, yourself included.
Must be better than thinking about reality for you.
Said someone who doesn't know what he is talking about. If you don't want to read about such discussions, then feel free to unsubscribe from these newsgroups. If you don't follow cases, then don't pretend that you know something about them. Or at least don't post charging at others who use facts, while you think that the world revolves around you.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:44:57 GMT, Gary Collard <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote:
Free Code wrote: I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the Bryant/Faber case. And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing a baseless case.
Looks like "Free Code" doesn't know what case or who exactly he is talking about. He just claimed that we were making up all those facts.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:45:45 GMT, Marcus Kwan <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote: Dude, your points are sailing so far over these guys heads, they probably think they are proving you wrong by missing the point completely.
Said Marcus Kwan. But hey, you have no credibility to begin with. I suggest that you read his bull#@($ again, even you should be able to see that he got embarrassed by his own ignorance when faced with facts and then decided to bail out.
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:34:04 -0700, 4more4W <www@aol.com> wrote:
GG wrote: Kobe is a rapist.
Court disagrees with you.
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i don't care who she had sex with before the event (and anyone with a half a brain capable of critical thinking knows that the sex after the alleged attack was a vicious lie, invented to prevent the conviction of the gravy train known as Kobe), nor her lifestyle:
Not according to the experts at CBI.
What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole, ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on his t-shirt.
The blood and injuries were all MICROSCOPIC. Sodomy was never an issue in the case. Please get the FACTS before stating nonsense.
it was violent and bloody rape.
There were no injuries consistant with violent rape. That is the testimony from the prosecutions own expert witness (the one they dropped when they didn't like his findings).
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:42:10 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:45:45 GMT, Marcus Kwan <mnospamkwan1@gte.net> wrote: Said Marcus Kwan. But hey, you have no credibility to begin with. I suggest that you read his bull#@($ again, even you should be able to see that he got embarrassed by his own ignorance when faced with facts and then decided to bail out.
Nope, I didn't bail out. I just called you on your own bunk, and you have missed every salient point because you need to prove that this topic has some merit. It doesn't, you don't and you won't. Have a nice day. Keep worrying about this - it keeps you busy. freecode
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:38:57 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:44:57 GMT, Gary Collard <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote: Looks like "Free Code" doesn't know what case or who exactly he is talking about. He just claimed that we were making up all those facts.
Nah, just looks like you are desperate. Have a nice life wating it worrying about this case. Hope you enjoy it. freecode
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:42:31 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:34:04 -0700, 4more4W <www@aol.com> wrote: Court disagrees with you.
That's a laugh. Have a nice day. Call me when you can add and subtract. freecode
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The fact that Kobe and Kateyln were complete strangers means that there is a 99.9% chance that it was consensual. Most male-to-female rapes are perpetrated by someone the girl/woman knows. I don't beleive Katelyn was raped. It is just a media @$#*-up. No I am not a sports fan. I don't like sports and think its is a form of sexism against men and boys. There you go. Both a sympathizer of Kobe, and an anti-fan of sports. I don't pity Kobe because he is black and the woman was white. I pity Kobe because he is a male victim of sexism. False accusation. The following is off-topic but I'll add anyway. Sports is bad for men and boys. It teaches them to be "tough", not to cry, to hurt themselves, to be self-destructive, to hurt little boys, to ignore mom, and other anti-male things listed on the society of human's @$#*ed-up "macho man code." Read the book "The War Against Boys". Its written by someone with an anti-macho, pro-virism, warm-hearted soul like me. "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message news:<GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped? Here is the cut and dry answer: a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl. b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress). c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such). d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges. e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion. f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping burgers). Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently faces.
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during a trial what are we, the largely uninformed public, to base our decisions upon? selectively released details? our own uninformed prejudices? certainly there exists no lack for either. Amazing then, how opinions often are expressed as fact, based upon on or two selective pieces of evidence- likely given a certain spin to motivate the general public to believing a certain way. For myself, I try (and often fail) to practice a SUSPENSION of belief- but again, my own biases come to the fore when I witness others doing the same. I have an opinion, and as luck would have it, am often on the side of dissent. So be it, the least I can do is to try and understand where my worthy adversary gets his/her opinions, and determine their validity by using the RULE Principle (as I often- but sometimes forget in my excitement, to practice ofr my own). For the most part however, ng arguments are mostly personal attacks encompassing everything from constant identity attacks, ad hominems, "talk to the hand" and outright "plonking" (killfiling). There are indeed many on these forums which have extremely valid viewpoints, but i fear they are near being drowned out in the accumulative weight of persons with strong opinions poorly matched with dimunitive intellect. This rambling thought turned out far different from what i meant to post, but as i do not disagree with the views it contains (indeed it is an accurate reflection of a silent thought i was unaware existed until now), i leave it as is.
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