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Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?



"FernDog"
9/6/2004 11:49:58 PM


Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently
faces.
 
 
Free Code
9/7/2004 1:02:38 AM


On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 +0000, FernDog wrote:
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently
faces.
Wow, what a load of vitriolic horse#@($. Can you manage one thought
without trying to say that everyone else *but* the accused is guilty of
some evil? Seriously, if you have a degree, I think I should have the
right to sue the college that *educated* you. They have failed miserably
in teachin you the ability to converse, think or act in a reasonable
manner, and as such, released yet another goober into society.
Please, do tell, why you feel this alleged rape affects you in any
meaningful way. It doesn't. It isn't your business, and your personal
anger towards the world aside - you're wasting bandwidth.
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the
alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case
has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are
directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself
out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on
its own.
freecode
 
 
"aluckyguess"
9/6/2004 8:00:19 PM




"FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message
news:GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com...

Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
I was going to say her dad, but he knows the truth. He will never admit it
out loud. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, it is most likely a
duck. Change the word lier for duck and you have Ms. Faber.
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't
believe Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he
currently faces.
 
 
ginnyginny@cs.com (GG)
9/7/2004 3:49:08 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the
alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case
has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are
directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself
out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on
its own.
freecode
But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being
plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a
year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
 
 
Free Code
9/7/2004 4:16:52 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 +0000, GG wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being
plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a
year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
You really can't read can you? Just so it is clear to you:
"This case has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are
directly involved. Now how about letting the Justice system work itself
out?"
Wake up - this case doesn't affect you unless you are Kobe or the
accuser. It hasn't affected you personally, now has it? Except maybe you
have nothing of real value to speak about, so harping on something that
has nothing to do with you seems to be your thing.
My outrage is at the news media (Let's see FOX, MSNBC, CNN ,etc.) who run
this case 24 hours a day and the dopes who think that their mysogyny,
personal extremism in elevating trivial crap and faux outrage have any
meaning or are newsworthy when they aren't. The real truth is that the
media has sold out the American people with lies and is avoiding the real
issues that matter with total horse#@($.
That's the outrage - the idiot media in their race to an uneducated and
deceived public.
Have a nice night, but stop the whining over total bull#@($.
freecode
 
 
"Falky foo"
9/7/2004 4:42:12 AM


That's probably pretty accurate. It's a gender power war thing again..
women would like to see a world where their word would be taken as fact
regarding rape, and men would like to see a world where nobody would believe
a woman in a rape case at all, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
The thing that bothers me are the so-called 'rape shield laws' which should
be repealed. If someone gets raped the public should be able to scrutinize
her as deeply as if she were robbed or burgled or assaulted. Rape ain't a
special case.
And the problem with men is that they've been lazy in standing up for
themselves and women have trampled on their rights for the past 30 years.
Men: time to fight back!


"FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message
news:GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com...

Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't
believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he
currently
faces.
 
 
"FernDog"
9/7/2004 5:23:39 AM




"Falky foo" <falkyfoo@bonksbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:E_a%c.16580$nP4.9774@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

women would like to see a world where their word would be
taken as fact regarding rape
Women pretty much have realized this power today in the US. Any woman can
accuse any guy who doesn't have a bullet proof alibi and immediately get him
arrested and indicted. It's a win-win situation for both women who enjoy
the power, the guy getting screwed and lawyers who enjoy a hearty feast paid
for by the accused.
I mean, can you imagine being a weakling with the power to point a finger
and make an accusation resulting in the destruction of a human being via the
power of the state? The feeling must be comperable to that of a mob boss
that orders a hit on someone.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/6/2004 10:55:53 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 GMT, ginnyginny@cs.com (GG) wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being
plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a
year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
Not to mention on bumper stickers, T-Shirts, ...etc with racist or rude
text/graphics of Kobe.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/6/2004 11:05:08 PM


On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 GMT, "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com>
wrote:
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
You accurately described, tjab, chas, John Clune, Mark Hulbert, and few
of the other feminist douche bags that were filling these newsgroups
with their bull#@($.
 
 
talciere@yahoo.co.uk (Tim Alciere)
9/7/2004 1:02:48 AM


Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.09.07.01.02.32.997376@yahoo.com>...
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 +0000, FernDog wrote:
Wow, what a load of vitriolic horse#@($. Can you manage one thought
without trying to say that everyone else *but* the accused is guilty of
some evil? Seriously, if you have a degree, I think I should have the
right to sue the college that *educated* you.
How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat?
They have failed miserably
in teachin you the ability to converse, think or act in a reasonable
manner, and as such, released yet another goober into society.
Please, do tell, why you feel this alleged rape affects you in any
meaningful way. It doesn't. It isn't your business, and your personal
anger towards the world aside - you're wasting bandwidth.
You're wasting our oxygen dyke.
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the
alleged rape. You are really making serious errors in judgment. This case
has no bearing on my life or anyone else except those that are
directly involved. Now, how about letting the Justice system work itself
out? It can do that without yapping dogs barking all day about it, all on
its own.
You're too stupid to understand the ramifications of this case and the
precedent that it sets. In a country where males from the ages of 5 to
100 have had false allegatons made against them EVERY man must be
concerned with this case. No female should ever be permitted to hide
behind unconstitutional rape shield laws and had better understand
that when you make a charge that will ruin a man's life you had better
be able to prove it. Your past conduct IS relevant. Your credibility
IS relevant. What you believe in your mind IS NOT relevant since
females often hold delusionary and irrational beliefs. But this Faber
slut was motivated by pure malicious greed and like a lot of women an
self centered indifference to a man's suffering.
 
 
Free Code
9/7/2004 12:20:49 PM


On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:55:53 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 03:49:08 GMT, ginnyginny@cs.com (GG) wrote:
Not to mention on bumper stickers, T-Shirts, ...etc with racist or rude
text/graphics of Kobe.
Gee...
did you make money off selling such things? I have never seen anything of
that type, but maybe you promote it?
Doesn't happen here.
freecode
 
 
Free Code
9/7/2004 12:23:41 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:48 -0700, Tim Alciere wrote:
Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.09.07.01.02.32.997376@yahoo.com>...

How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat?
Ahh, no real answers I see. Just another 12 year old insult. Waste of
bandwidth.
They have failed miserably
You're wasting our oxygen dyke.
Your dumber than I thought. I am married man, and you are so childish that
I doubt you will ever be married.
You're too stupid to understand the ramifications of this case and the
precedent that it sets. In a country where males from the ages of 5 to
100 have had false allegatons made against them EVERY man must be
concerned with this case. No female should ever be permitted to hide
behind unconstitutional rape shield laws and had better understand that
when you make a charge that will ruin a man's life you had better be
able to prove it. Your past conduct IS relevant. Your credibility IS
relevant. What you believe in your mind IS NOT relevant since females
often hold delusionary and irrational beliefs. But this Faber slut was
motivated by pure malicious greed and like a lot of women an self
centered indifference to a man's suffering.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/7/2004 6:36:44 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:20:49 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 22:55:53 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
Gee...
did you make money off selling such things? I have never seen anything of
that type, but maybe you promote it?
Doesn't happen here.
You are not following the case, are you?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/
And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county
resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html
It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of
"promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
 
 
Free Code
9/7/2004 1:58:44 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:20:49 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
You are not following the case, are you?
Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/
And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county
resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html
It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of
"promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people
say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that
point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me
a'tall.
Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life. Must be
better than thinking about reality for you.
freecode
 
 
Gary Collard
9/7/2004 3:44:57 PM


Free Code wrote:
BTW: Naming the victim is as much a violation of her privacy as the
alleged rape.
I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the
Bryant/Faber case. And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to
the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing
a baseless case.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I like reading electronic books on my Pocket PC so much that I never
carry paper books anymore. The downside is that, when camping, you
can only use an e-book for emergency toilet paper once."
-- Phil Garding
 
 
"Unabogie"
9/7/2004 4:00:14 PM




"Gary Collard" <garycollard@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:413DD6F5.6A2AEFF2@netscape.net...

Free Code wrote:
I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the
Bryant/Faber case.
No, you're talking about the Plaintiff.
There is no "alleged vcitim" now that all charges were dropped.
And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to
the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing
a baseless case.
--
Gary Collard
SABR-L Moderator
gmcollard@yahoo.com
"I like reading electronic books on my Pocket PC so much that I never
carry paper books anymore. The downside is that, when camping, you
can only use an e-book for emergency toilet paper once."
-- Phil Garding
 
 
jtnospam@yahoo.com (jitney)
9/7/2004 9:15:59 AM


Sports Fan <sports@fan.home> wrote in message news:<5qjqj011n9c3202uckjoqcbgovfsvke88e@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:49:58 GMT, "FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com>
wrote:
 
 
finngirl@gmail.com (kayp)
9/7/2004 9:51:41 AM


I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd
are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity
that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the
case.
They are those groupies hoping in their fog that their blind loyalty
to an extremely rich, talented basketball player will somehow touch
them favorably.
i don't care who she had sex with before the event (and anyone with a
half a brain capable of critical thinking knows that the sex after the
alleged attack was a vicious lie, invented to prevent the conviction
of the gravy train known as Kobe), nor her lifestyle:
What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he
pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole,
ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on
his t-shirt.
in the space of about 5 minutes.
This was not a seduction, this was not consensual. (Even on a bad day,
the most dickless of you would consider more than a five minute
seduction)
it was violent and bloody rape.
I used to be a big fan of Kobe: the only thing on the Laker's team I
could look at with any respect. And now I feel worse then disrespect:
I feel fear, and pray to god that no man ever does to his daughter
what he has done.
"FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message news:<GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently
faces.
 
 
"FernDog"
9/7/2004 5:55:17 PM




"kayp" <finngirl@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9b88aa10.0409070851.1f7afd75@posting.google.com...

I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd
are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity
that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the
case.
I am an exception to your rule since I don't like sports. The facts of the
case have always indicated consensual sex (no screaming, fighting, zippo).
Her underlying intentions to extort money from Kobe are pretty clear,
especially now. Why else would she demand his public apology in return for
her non-participation in the criminal case? Think civil court and of all
the free $$$ that she and her lawyers are after. I feel that she was likely
advised to drop the charges and secure an apology that will clearly be used
in civil court.
What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he
pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole,
ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on
his t-shirt.
it was violent and bloody rape.
Look how your mind deceives you with your bloody asshole imagery. It never
happened, the fact is that there was nothing more than normal blood trace
evidence barely even visible. Kate Faber's bung was carefully examined and
there were no visible cuts or abrasions.
I used to be a big fan of Kobe: the only thing on the Laker's team I
could look at with any respect. And now I feel worse then disrespect:
I feel fear, and pray to god that no man ever does to his daughter
what he has done.
You should teach your daughter that proper women 1) do not go into a guy's
room and 2) suck face with a stranger. Then teach her what women around the
world already know by instinct which is to scream if they are attacked!
 
 
howldog
9/7/2004 2:15:47 PM


On 7 Sep 2004 09:51:41 -0700, finngirl@gmail.com (kayp) wrote:
I disagree. in fact, the only people who don't believe she was rapd
are those gutless sycophants who are so starry over Kobe's celebrity
that they can't read the >proven< (ie not "alleged") facts of the
case.
that not true. I dont follow sports very much and i certainly dont
worship celebrities. And i'm not convinced he raped her. Maybe he did.
Maybe he didnt.
you're every bit as prejudiced as those you accused. nice job.
 
 
erinperry30@hotmail.com (Astrid)
9/7/2004 1:33:14 PM


<snip>> > How's your job at McDonald's? Getting enough to eat?
Ahh, no real answers I see. Just another 12 year old insult. Waste of
bandwidth.
Your dumber than I thought. I am married man, and you are so childish that
I doubt you will ever be married.

 
 
solarchase@aol.com (SolarChase)
9/7/2004 8:39:00 PM


erinperry30 wrote
">Sorry to say, freecode, you'll never get through to these neanderthals.
They'll pounce on anyone who doesn't call the alleged victim a whore or praise
Kobe in some way. Making intelligent statements like the ones you have made
only get name calling & other childish insults."
Kinda reminds one of OJ's day in popular opinion court, dont it ??
--------
have a GREAT day !!!!
Solar
 
 
Marcus Kwan
9/7/2004 8:45:45 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all.
Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people
say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that
point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me
a'tall.
Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life. Must be
better than thinking about reality for you.
freecode
Dude, your points are sailing so far over these guys heads, they
probably think they are proving you wrong by missing the point
completely.
 
 
4more4W
9/7/2004 2:34:04 PM


GG wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:02:38 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
But yet you have no problem with Kobe Bryant's name and face being
plastered all over the media in regards to this case for more than a
year! Where's your outrage over that!?!
Kobe is a rapist.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/7/2004 4:37:58 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 06:36:44 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
Nope, don't care about it at all. Doesn't affect my life at all.
Then why argue about it, let alone accusing others of promoting things
that didn't happen?
Instead of assuming stuff and making up things, get your facts straight.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/09/bryant.case.reut/
And then read this article where they interviewed an Eagle county
resident with a crude opinion about Kobe on a bumper sticker on her car.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/Sports/ap20040904_691.html
It helps if you get your facts straight before accusing someone of
"promoting" things, just because you are not aware of facts.
Again, still doesn't affect my life at all. That's THE point. What people
say or do, still won't affect my life. You seem to conveniently miss that
point. The case is one for the legal system, and this one won't affect me
a'tall.
This is not about YOUR life, and not even about you.
Learn how to read properly and then follow the thread.
In the above you were whining about the "victim's privacy", while you
were asked if you have a problem with Kobe's own privacy and the
violations of his civil rights, and the obvious prejudice against him.
You claimed that people are making this up, and when faced with facts,
you claimed that you should not be worried because it doesn't effect
YOUR life.
What has that got to do with the discussion?
You obviously think that the universe revolves around you.
You seem to be having problems reading and following discussions.
By your own admission, you haven't been paying attention to the case,
yet you seem to think that others will not call your bull#@($ about the
case when you post it.
Have a nice day worrying about some basketball player's life.
I am worried about every innocent man, and the last thing that I can
stand is someone's rights being violated.
The same people who are very comfortable with that, are whining about
the accuser's privacy and other rights, yourself included.
Must be better than thinking about reality for you.
Said someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.
If you don't want to read about such discussions, then feel free to
unsubscribe from these newsgroups.
If you don't follow cases, then don't pretend that you know something
about them.
Or at least don't post charging at others who use facts, while you think
that the world revolves around you.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/7/2004 4:38:57 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:44:57 GMT, Gary Collard
<garycollard@netscape.net> wrote:
Free Code wrote:
I assume you mean the alleged victim, if you're talking about the
Bryant/Faber case. And yes, her privacy was violated, as was his, due to
the overzealousness and political ambition of Hoy and Hurlburt in bringing
a baseless case.
Looks like "Free Code" doesn't know what case or who exactly he is
talking about.
He just claimed that we were making up all those facts.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/7/2004 4:42:10 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:45:45 GMT, Marcus Kwan <mnospamkwan1@gte.net>
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 13:58:44 GMT, Free Code <freecode_99@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Dude, your points are sailing so far over these guys heads, they
probably think they are proving you wrong by missing the point
completely.
Said Marcus Kwan.
But hey, you have no credibility to begin with.
I suggest that you read his bull#@($ again, even you should be able to
see that he got embarrassed by his own ignorance when faced with facts
and then decided to bail out.
 
 
Sports Fan
9/7/2004 4:42:31 PM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:34:04 -0700, 4more4W <www@aol.com> wrote:
GG wrote:
Kobe is a rapist.
Court disagrees with you.
 
 
pauls2272@yahoo.com (Paul Schneider)
9/7/2004 5:07:09 PM


i don't care who she had sex with before the event (and anyone with a
half a brain capable of critical thinking knows that the sex after the
alleged attack was a vicious lie, invented to prevent the conviction
of the gravy train known as Kobe), nor her lifestyle:
Not according to the experts at CBI.
What is true is that a 19 year old girl went to his room, and he
pushed her forwards over a chair, and shoved his penis in her asshole,
ripping the membranes and tissue, leaving blood on her panties and on
his t-shirt.
The blood and injuries were all MICROSCOPIC. Sodomy was never an
issue in the case. Please get the FACTS before stating nonsense.
it was violent and bloody rape.
There were no injuries consistant with violent rape. That is the
testimony from the prosecutions own expert witness (the one they
dropped when they didn't like his findings).
 
 
Free Code
9/8/2004 12:39:15 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:42:10 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 20:45:45 GMT, Marcus Kwan <mnospamkwan1@gte.net>
wrote:
Said Marcus Kwan.
But hey, you have no credibility to begin with.
I suggest that you read his bull#@($ again, even you should be able to
see that he got embarrassed by his own ignorance when faced with facts
and then decided to bail out.
Nope, I didn't bail out. I just called you on your own bunk, and you have
missed every salient point because you need to prove that this topic has
some merit. It doesn't, you don't and you won't.
Have a nice day. Keep worrying about this - it keeps you busy.
freecode
 
 
Free Code
9/8/2004 12:40:07 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:38:57 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 15:44:57 GMT, Gary Collard
<garycollard@netscape.net> wrote:
Looks like "Free Code" doesn't know what case or who exactly he is
talking about.
He just claimed that we were making up all those facts.
Nah, just looks like you are desperate. Have a nice life wating it
worrying about this case. Hope you enjoy it.
freecode
 
 
Free Code
9/8/2004 12:41:53 AM


On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:42:31 -0700, Sports Fan wrote:
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 14:34:04 -0700, 4more4W <www@aol.com> wrote:
Court disagrees with you.
That's a laugh.
Have a nice day. Call me when you can add and subtract.
freecode
 
 
masculism_virism@yahoo.com (Fair For All)
9/7/2004 6:03:00 PM


The fact that Kobe and Kateyln were complete strangers means that
there is a
99.9% chance that it was consensual. Most male-to-female rapes are
perpetrated by someone the girl/woman knows. I don't beleive Katelyn
was raped. It is just a media @$#*-up. No I am not a sports fan. I
don't like sports and think its is a form of sexism against men and
boys. There you go. Both a sympathizer of Kobe, and an anti-fan of
sports. I don't pity Kobe because he is black and the woman was white.
I pity Kobe because he is a male victim of sexism. False accusation.
The following is off-topic but I'll add anyway. Sports is bad for men
and boys. It teaches them to be "tough", not to cry, to hurt
themselves, to be self-destructive, to hurt little boys, to ignore
mom, and other anti-male things listed on the society of human's
@$#*ed-up "macho man code."
Read the book "The War Against Boys". Its written by someone with an
anti-macho, pro-virism, warm-hearted soul like me.
"FernDog" <FernDog@WhoKnows.com> wrote in message news:<GI6%c.9977$It2.4611@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
Who believes that Katelyn Faber was raped?
Here is the cut and dry answer:
a.. Nut-less wonders like Spooge. Hard to tell if it's a guy or a girl.
b.. Angry / jealous guys who never get any nookie (knights in shining
armor and the nice friend-only types who wish to impress).
c.. Angry / jealous girls who don't get laid (feminazi and such).
d.. Financially motivated scumbag attorneys and lowlife judges.
e.. Eager Pig wanting promotion.
f.. Social workers badly in need of cases (in an effort avoid flipping
burgers).
Truthfully, I've noticed that good looking and confident babes don't believe
Faber's bullcrap. They sympathize with Kobe and the injustice he currently
faces.
 
 
catchmerevisited
9/8/2004 1:04:21 AM


during a trial what are we, the largely uninformed public, to base our
decisions upon?
selectively released details? our own uninformed prejudices?
certainly there exists no lack for either.
Amazing then, how opinions often are expressed as fact, based upon on or two
selective pieces of evidence- likely given a certain spin to motivate the
general public to believing a certain way.
For myself, I try (and often fail) to practice a SUSPENSION of belief- but
again, my own biases come to the fore when I witness others doing the same.
I have an opinion, and as luck would have it, am often on the side of
dissent.
So be it, the least I can do is to try and understand where my worthy
adversary gets his/her opinions, and determine their validity by using the
RULE Principle (as I often- but sometimes forget in my excitement, to
practice ofr my own).
For the most part however, ng arguments are mostly personal attacks
encompassing everything from constant identity attacks, ad hominems, "talk
to the hand" and outright "plonking" (killfiling).
There are indeed many on these forums which have extremely valid viewpoints,
but i fear they are near being drowned out in the accumulative weight of
persons with strong opinions poorly matched with dimunitive intellect.
This rambling thought turned out far different from what i meant to post,
but as i do not disagree with the views it contains (indeed it is an
accurate reflection of a silent thought i was unaware existed until now), i
leave it as is.