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Yeah, we're getting our ass handed to us in Iraq. There's now over 1000 young men and women we've sent to their death, more than 7000 young men and women who are horribly maimed. Nothing is being accomplished in Iraq. NOTHING. It has become another Vietnam. There will be a draft after the election. We've got to get more young men into the military. We are dangerously over extended in Iraq. That's why we've pulled our troops away from the border in North Korea. The North Koreans could erupt at any moment and draw us into a genuine war. So could the Chinese.
STFU! Everything is going just fine in Iraq! It's all part of Pres Bush's master plan. He just can tell you everything about his plan right now or the enemy would win. The people who are running our government are a lot smarter than you or me. They know things that you don't and can't know. So just STFU and let them do their job!
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STFU! (1)Everything is going just fine in Iraq! (2) It's all part of Pres Bush's master plan. He just can tell you everything about his plan right now or the enemy would win. (3)The people who are running our government are a lot smarter than you or me. They know things that you don't and can't know. (4) So just STFU and let them do their job! (1) Iraq is well on its way to becoming another Lebanon; it is costing more and more American dollars and lives to create greater and greater instability while expanding the breeding grounds for hate of all things American. Face it -- it's a disaster. (2) Hmmm, sounds familiar. Remember Nixon's secret plan to end the war in Viet Nam? It's still a secret. Fool me once and ... I'm a fool, or ... you're a fool. . . or something foolish like they say in Tennessee, or was it Texas? (3) If you think that GW is smarter than you, I can't argue. If you think he is smarter than a road apple I do. Of course, GW is no more the leader of our government than the San Diego Chicken is leader of the Padres. Both are just puppets. The real boys in charge of the government ain't dumb, they are just greedy and mean. (4) Democracy, the gift of God to the world sayth GW, remember that concept? Americans should never STFU and blindly follow the leader, no matter who he is. The leader's job is to do the will of the poeple. The people's job is to educate themselves and let their will be known.
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It's fascinating to watch people talk as if the events that have occured in the past 4 years are all Mr. Bush's fault. It seems that we have forgotten terrorism's history prior to 9/11. It points to large numbers of terrorist attacks against US interests while the Democrats stood by and watched, doing nothing. Bush was only beginning his Presidency when 9/11 took place and the conditions necessary to make that a successful attack were created by the past president's inactivity. President Bush has decided for very good reasons that we are no longer going to stand by and be victims. He has instead chosen to fight back. We are loosing people in this war that is true but at least they are fighting back. We were loosing people under the Democrats but there was no effort to stop the carnage just ineffective babble. The Democrats already have a dismal record on the war against Terror. They apparently really don't care enough to fight back. starwars <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in message news:<f2497d974832019f21c9ebf842c5cb17@tatooine.homelinux.net>... Yeah, we're getting our ass handed to us in Iraq. There's now over 1000 young men and women we've sent to their death, more than 7000 young men and women who are horribly maimed. Nothing is being accomplished in Iraq. NOTHING. It has become another Vietnam. There will be a draft after the election. We've got to get more young men into the military. We are dangerously over extended in Iraq. That's why we've pulled our troops away from the border in North Korea. The North Koreans could erupt at any moment and draw us into a genuine war. So could the Chinese.
STFU! Everything is going just fine in Iraq! It's all part of Pres Bush's master plan. He just can tell you everything about his plan right now or the enemy would win. The people who are running our government are a lot smarter than you or me. They know things that you don't and can't know. So just STFU and let them do their job!
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One of the worst presidents in American history who's administration has lied to the public on almost a weekly basis. End of discussion. The fact that so much can be going wrong here and in Iraq and Bush can be ahead in poll is mind boggling. Four more years of THIS?
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It's the same old bull#@($ "Yes, it happend on our watch, but it's the other guy's fault." Bush and his flunkies repeatedly ignored Ramsey Clarke's warnings before 9-11 After 9-11 they used the attacks to push their old agendas, even to the point of instructing Clarke to find a relationship between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Bush etal distorted and ignored evidence to make a case it was necessary to invade Iraq. At first the reason was WMDs, including poison gas weapons and nuclear weapons. No evidence of an active nuclear weapons program was found; the only poison gas weapons found dated back to before the first Gulf War. After the WMD story was discredited, they fall back on blaming Hussein for 9-11, until that theory was also discredited (but Dick Cheney continues to assert there IS a link). After that reason fell flat, Bush, etc have fallen back on "Hussein was an evil dictator (agreed, he did kill tens of thousands of his subjects), it was necessary to depose him to protect the Iraqi people. Funny how the Iraqi people don't seem to appreciate the favor. NOW the story is the purpose was to introduce Democracy to Iraq. In the meantime over 1,000 American soldiers have died; The number of Iraqi civilians killed is unknown, but estimated at over 10,000; and the country is so unstable that American soldiers are regularly targeted by insurgents. The situation in Iraq has deteriorated; check recent news stories about the fiasco of the 'Fallujah brigade'. This US backed force, made up of former Iraqi military forces was supposed to replace US forces in Fallujah. Instead they were turning the US supplied weapons over to the insurgents; or simply fighting alongside them. It is certain that Clinton failed to fully appreciate the threat of al Quieda. It is also certain that Bush has managed to thoroughly @$#* up the response to 9-11. Instead of continuing the effort in Afghanistan, vital resources were diverted to Iraq; al Quida is still active, and appears to move at will in a significant part of Afghanistan. In the meantime, the situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate. PlainBill On 10 Sep 2004 11:38:09 -0700, philiprispin@letu.edu (P. Rispin) wrote:
It's fascinating to watch people talk as if the events that have occured in the past 4 years are all Mr. Bush's fault. It seems that we have forgotten terrorism's history prior to 9/11. It points to large numbers of terrorist attacks against US interests while the Democrats stood by and watched, doing nothing. Bush was only beginning his Presidency when 9/11 took place and the conditions necessary to make that a successful attack were created by the past president's inactivity. President Bush has decided for very good reasons that we are no longer going to stand by and be victims. He has instead chosen to fight back. We are loosing people in this war that is true but at least they are fighting back. We were loosing people under the Democrats but there was no effort to stop the carnage just ineffective babble. The Democrats already have a dismal record on the war against Terror. They apparently really don't care enough to fight back. starwars <nobody@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in message news:<f2497d974832019f21c9ebf842c5cb17@tatooine.homelinux.net>... Yeah, we're getting our ass handed to us in Iraq. There's now over 1000 young men and women we've sent to their death, more than 7000 young men and women who are horribly maimed. Nothing is being accomplished in Iraq. NOTHING. It has become another Vietnam. There will be a draft after the election. We've got to get more young men into the military. We are dangerously over extended in Iraq. That's why we've pulled our troops away from the border in North Korea. The North Koreans could erupt at any moment and draw us into a genuine war. So could the Chinese.
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PlainBill <PlainBill47@yahoo.com> wrote in news:rcibk0l3k526pd9mr47ic4i5jmk5bfr47u@4ax.com:
It's the same old bull#@($ "Yes, it happend on our watch, but it's the other guy's fault." Bush and his flunkies repeatedly ignored Ramsey Clarke's warnings before 9-11 After 9-11 they used the attacks to push their old agendas, even to the point of instructing Clarke to find a relationship between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Bush etal distorted and ignored evidence to make a case it was necessary to invade Iraq. At first the reason was WMDs, including poison gas weapons and nuclear weapons. No evidence of an active nuclear weapons program was found; the only poison gas weapons found dated back to before the first Gulf War. After the WMD story was discredited, they fall back on blaming Hussein for 9-11, until that theory was also discredited (but Dick Cheney continues to assert there IS a link). After that reason fell flat, Bush, etc have fallen back on "Hussein was an evil dictator (agreed, he did kill tens of thousands of his subjects), it was necessary to depose him to protect the Iraqi people. Funny how the Iraqi people don't seem to appreciate the favor. NOW the story is the purpose was to introduce Democracy to Iraq. In the meantime over 1,000 American soldiers have died; The number of Iraqi civilians killed is unknown, but estimated at over 10,000; and the country is so unstable that American soldiers are regularly targeted by insurgents. The situation in Iraq has deteriorated; check recent news stories about the fiasco of the 'Fallujah brigade'. This US backed force, made up of former Iraqi military forces was supposed to replace US forces in Fallujah. Instead they were turning the US supplied weapons over to the insurgents; or simply fighting alongside them. It is certain that Clinton failed to fully appreciate the threat of al Quieda. It is also certain that Bush has managed to thoroughly @$#* up the response to 9-11. Instead of continuing the effort in Afghanistan, vital resources were diverted to Iraq; al Quida is still active, and appears to move at will in a significant part of Afghanistan. In the meantime, the situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate. PlainBill
Don't worry so much about it, PlainBill. Bush will have another four years to fix all the mistakes caused by bleeding hearts and the "Let's Kiss Saddam's Ass" crowd that you belong to.
On 10 Sep 2004 11:38:09 -0700, philiprispin@letu.edu (P. Rispin) wrote:
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PlainBill wrote:
It's the same old bull#@($ "Yes, it happend on our watch, but it's the other guy's fault." Bush and his flunkies repeatedly ignored Ramsey Clarke's warnings before 9-11
Clinton and his flunkies repeatedly ignored the warnings before 9-11, as well. Unless you want to make the claim that Kerry is clueless, the same applies to him, as well. Followup's set.
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Now you know why I am voting for Bush. He's the best that the Republicans can field, when in fact his candidacy was and still is was a teen-boi popularity contest wherein he rode in with his dad's name and on his dad's political coattails and the stoopid bourgeois RINO's bought into it like the suckers they are. Fuck the cheez-eating middle-class that put him in the White House in the first place They deserve everything they're gonna get.. If we'd had John McCain as president on 9/11, things would probably gone alot better. At least, like John Kerry, he actually DID have gooks shooting at him, so he understands the necessity to move quicky and decisively in a war situation - Something our little superannuated frat-boi, chickenhawk leader doesn't know one jot of. Anyone for a gimlet? ---------- In article <rcibk0l3k526pd9mr47ic4i5jmk5bfr47u@4ax.com>, PlainBill <PlainBill47@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's the same old bull#@($ "Yes, it happend on our watch, but it's the other guy's fault." Bush and his flunkies repeatedly ignored Ramsey Clarke's warnings before 9-11 After 9-11 they used the attacks to push their old agendas, even to the point of instructing Clarke to find a relationship between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Bush etal distorted and ignored evidence to make a case it was necessary to invade Iraq. At first the reason was WMDs, including poison gas weapons and nuclear weapons. No evidence of an active nuclear weapons program was found; the only poison gas weapons found dated back to before the first Gulf War. After the WMD story was discredited, they fall back on blaming Hussein for 9-11, until that theory was also discredited (but Dick Cheney continues to assert there IS a link). After that reason fell flat, Bush, etc have fallen back on "Hussein was an evil dictator (agreed, he did kill tens of thousands of his subjects), it was necessary to depose him to protect the Iraqi people. Funny how the Iraqi people don't seem to appreciate the favor. NOW the story is the purpose was to introduce Democracy to Iraq. In the meantime over 1,000 American soldiers have died; The number of Iraqi civilians killed is unknown, but estimated at over 10,000; and the country is so unstable that American soldiers are regularly targeted by insurgents. The situation in Iraq has deteriorated; check recent news stories about the fiasco of the 'Fallujah brigade'. This US backed force, made up of former Iraqi military forces was supposed to replace US forces in Fallujah. Instead they were turning the US supplied weapons over to the insurgents; or simply fighting alongside them. It is certain that Clinton failed to fully appreciate the threat of al Quieda. It is also certain that Bush has managed to thoroughly @$#* up the response to 9-11. Instead of continuing the effort in Afghanistan, vital resources were diverted to Iraq; al Quida is still active, and appears to move at will in a significant part of Afghanistan. In the meantime, the situation in Iraq continues to deteriorate. PlainBill On 10 Sep 2004 11:38:09 -0700, philiprispin@letu.edu (P. Rispin) wrote: news:<f2497d974832019f21c9ebf842c5cb17@tatooine.homelinux.net>... Yeah, we're getting our ass handed to us in Iraq. There's now over 1000 young men and women we've sent to their death, more than 7000 young men and women who are horribly maimed. Nothing is being accomplished in Iraq. NOTHING. It has become another Vietnam. There will be a draft after the election. We've got to get more young men into the military. We are dangerously over extended in Iraq. That's why we've pulled our troops away from the border in North Korea. The North Koreans could erupt at any moment and draw us into a genuine war. So could the Chinese. STFU! Everything is going just fine in Iraq! It's all part of Pres Bush's master plan. He just can tell you everything about his plan right now or the enemy would win. The people who are running our government are a lot smarter than you or me. They know things that you don't and can't know. So just STFU and let them do their job! He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression, for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. -Thomas Paine
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